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The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:50 PM
This write up is for installing a Mega Squirt II using the MS2/Extra firmware (there are many versions of Mega Squirt so be sure to pay attention) on a 2.4LD9 or any other earlier Quad 4, HO, LO, W41 families. Please forgive me I have not been on here in a while and I may have forgotten some things about j-bodies but I should be able to recall quickly if asked or with little refreshing. I felt that I owed it to all of you being that I have played with this engine for 15 years. This install will need to use an Ignition Control Module from an OBD I General Motors 4 cylinder such as a 94 Saturn or similar (easy to find in your local pick and pull junk yard for 20 bucks). This will make the engine run as a batch fire injection strategy (instead of the factory sequential injection strategy and will remain a wasted spark ignition configuration and will not need to use the stock cam position sensor. Yes this means you can run the HO cam swap with out having issues other than the power steering, but who needs power steering when you are racing haha)

This Mega Squirt II is a stand alone Engine Control Unit. It will not interface with stock gauges or Body Control Modules. Someone can try that out if they wish to piggy back the stock instrument cluster. I am sure there is a way to do it. I went with more of a complete custom installation and used aftermarket gauges.

Please read and understand the Mega Squirt II manual and configuration documents prior to attempting any Mega Squirt installation. This is not the one safe source every thing to know about Mega Squirt. There are several pages of documentation for the Mega Squirt. This is simply the key topics in Mega Squirting the engines mentioned above.

I will be happy to make this a working document. Mega Squirt is continuously evolving tuner power tool. New things will come up and be offered with code development. Forgive me ahead of time Im not on here regularly anymore.

WARNING. If you do not understand engines, and engine tuning principals you can destroy your engine and or Mega Squirt with 1 key stroke.

ATTENTION It is important to know what code you are running and when using the support forums to mention it in your post if you have questions. There are several code versions floating around and some early versions may have a feature flip flopped (such as the Idle Air Contorl stepper motor map for example).

Resources
http://www.msextra.com/doc/index.html This is the main index. Very helpful
http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html This is the main Document for the MSII, but the index site above has this info and I think is more up to date
http://www.msextra.com/forums/index.php Support forum
http://www.diyautotune.com/ This is the shop that sells all the Mega Squirt goodies and has the latest Code down loads.


Abbreviations that will be used in this write up

ECU Engine Control Unit
MSII- Mega Squirt II
Ms Milliseconds
MSQ- The flash file for your vehicle (tune)
ICM- Ignition Control Module
VE- Volumetric Efficiency

First of all this example install is on MS2/extra firmware and is for a built 2.4L using 4, 1000 cc Low impedance injectors running a modified fuel pressure so the injector constants will be different than most other cars, but this is easy to overcome with changing some variables in the settings using the Tuner Studio software on you PC/ computer. This is why you will need to know every thing about your engine and hardware. This will make sense once you read the documents I suggested earlier. All other settings will be the same other than the VE table and injector constants/ settings.



Study and wire up you engine like the main engine harness/ MSII harness wire diagram
Wire up your electric fan to the fast idle wire. This is a programmable out put and you will configure it to run your fan at the temp you set it to.




Wire up your ICM as displayed in this image


You will need to wire up the GM HEI by pass relay as shown here
To use the GM DIS module, build your MegaSquirt as shown in the GM HEI section. To connect the module to MegaSquirt:
Module pin B or C - white wire - DB37 #36 (V3 main board, ignition output signal pin for V2.2),
Module pin A - tan/black wire - Connect to a bypass relay as shown for the HEI modules,
Module pin E - purple/white wire - DB37 pin #24 (tach),
Module pin F - red/black wire - ground,
Module separate connector - black/white - ground,
The module also has connections for power (pink), the crank position sensor (yellow & purple), and tach (white).



Once you are wired up and powered on you will need to load your code/ firmware, if you have not already. Download the code from http://www.diyautotune.com/ .
Use these instructions for loading firmware scroll down to the MS2/extra section http://www.msextra.com/doc/ms2extra/upgrade.html

Next you will need to calibrate you throttle position sensor, under tools, calibrate TPS. Follow instructions on screen


Next select the wide band you are using, under tools, calibrate AFR table
Follow instructions on screen
Next you will configure you MSQ file/ tune

Use the pictures below
These are all the settings under the basic set up tab in tuner studio. You will need to hit the required fuel button on the standard injection menu with you engine and injector specifics. Pay close attention to the Ignition Options window (not the More Ignition Options window) This is how to set up the trigger using the the OBD 1 ICM. Zoom in on these pictures so you can see every thing.


This is the Spark Advance map that has worked really well for me. It is conservative. Going too aggressive here can destroy your engine so be careful.


AFR table


VE table this will be different on every set up depending on the engine build, cams, turbo, injector size and fuel pressure.


Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:59 PM
Oops, Continued haha
Rev limiter. Fuel cut is really the only option with the OBD 1 ICM


EGO control/ O2 sensor feed back/ closed loop


You may need to tweak these following settings a little, but these tunes I set up here should get you close.


















Posting this in phases so it doesn't time out
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:11 PM
you may have to tweak the following different from mine because injector style low impedance vs high impedance



This is where you set you set your fan up


Additional fuel for colder air in this map


Nice litter feature to save fuel during deceleration


If all the pictures dont load, I have this full document saved I can email to you
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Hit me up on face book Jamie Smith
Gmail jracer99@gmail.com

This does work, please dont flame it because you think hp tuners is better. This is for people who want to understand the fundamentals and roots of fuel injection on ECMs not compatible with hptuners and boost. This took me a lot of hours to do and im am sharing it because I love this type of stuff.

And now I will show you the car it is in. Yep a 1964 2.4L Nova chevy II turbo.
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:24 PM
Here is the car
Roughly 350 hp on 15 PSI pump gas stock cams, conservative timing forged bottom end.






Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 7:47 PM
I will post up some of the tuning instructions and such form the tuner studio interface when I get a chance
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Thursday, October 24, 2013 9:56 PM
Awesome. Never expected a 4cyl to fill an old car engine bay. Can't sit on the wheel wells and work on it now. Is there a reason why you didn't go with the ms3 or msx? The new msx is like the size of a wallet and waterproof.




On the inside my car looks like a fighter jet.
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Friday, October 25, 2013 5:55 AM
Rob Dotterer wrote:

Awesome. Never expected a 4cyl to fill an old car engine bay. Can't sit on the wheel wells and work on it now. Is there a reason why you didn't go with the ms3 or msx? The new msx is like the size of a wallet and waterproof.


Rob. When I did this the Ms3 and Ms3x was not available. It was a couple years or so before it came out. The MS3 is awesome it has several new features. Like always technology advances quickly. The Ms3 however is the daughter card/processor and can be directly installed into the MS2 ECU. The main board is the same. I believe the waterproof version that just came out is a totally new package and would not adapt to the existing MS2

Thanks,
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Friday, October 25, 2013 10:05 AM
I forgot to add this. You MUST follow this depending on what style of injectors you are running (high impedance vs low impedance )

If you are running high-impedance injectors (greater than 10 Ohms), then set the: ◦PWM Time Threshold to 25.4 msec, and the
◦PWM Current Limit ( to 100%.
(The presence or absence of the active flyback circuit (v3) or flyback board (v2.2) doesn't matter for high impedance injectors.)


If you have low impedance injectors (less than 4 Ohms), set the:
PWM Time Threshold to 1.0 msec, and
PWM Current Limit to: ◾30% on a V3 or V3.57 main board (if you have the active flyback circuit installed).
◾30% on a V2.2 main board (if you have the separate flyback board installed).
◾75% on a V2.2 main board (if you do not have the separate flyback board installed).

Set the initial PWM% to 75% if (and only if) you have you impedance injectors and you have NOT installed:
◾the active flyback circuit on a V3 main board (assembly manual step #69), or
◾the 'Flyback Board' daughter card on a V2.2 main board).
Re: The full 2.4L Megasquirt install and configure write up, in a 64 nova what
Friday, October 25, 2013 11:12 AM
This is awesome. Never thought I'd see a build like this.
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