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Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Thursday, June 09, 2005 8:24 PM on j-body.org
Honestly, who cares?

It's a song, it's about our country. Why does such a small thing have to be such a big deal? I never understand some people. The U.S. is one of the best countries to live in in the entire world, as is Canada, or some place in Europe. Just be proud to live where you do. I am proud to be an American no matter what president we have and no matter what our foreign policy is because there's nothing wrong with being happy with who you are/where you live.

Why do I have to sit and watch a group of black comedians make fun of white people and nobody cares? Why do I have to listen to all foreign countries saying how bad they hate Americans, but when America dislikes a country it's "morally wrong"? Why is it alright to racially segregate for the better of colored people, at a white person's expense?

These are far more important issues than a song played at a baseball game, but I still don't care, it's a part of the world and we should live no matter what is thrown at us. It's ok to question ideas, but don't hurt yourself over it.




Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:18 PM on j-body.org
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Yea god is sure blessing us alright, I think 9/11 was a long time coming for all the ridiculous meddling with other countries ppl's lives our government does on a daily basis, we have an @!#$ as president, ppl stupid enough to believe in his lies, yea god is sure blessing us. I think I'd rather go to hell


find me one politician that's not a liar, a cheat, or a sneak, and i'll gladly vote for them...

oh, and matt, we all know how you feel. You piss and moan about it every time you get a chance...it's over. Suck it up, and drive on...

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Why do I have to sit and watch a group of black comedians make fun of white people and nobody cares? Why do I have to listen to all foreign countries saying how bad they hate Americans, but when America dislikes a country it's "morally wrong"? Why is it alright to racially segregate for the better of colored people, at a white person's expense?

man, that whole situation is stupid to begin with.. alot o this is appeasement for a small percentage of people owning alot of slaves...for starters, the slaves were inslaved in africa, by the reigning african tribes(to the victor, goes the spoils) slave traders(mostly white) then sent them to the states among other places where they were owned by white and black plantation owners(the largest slave owner in virginia was black)...so yea, it's too bad that they were enslaved, as no one deserves to be slave to any man, but blaming white people for it and only white people for it shows a lack of knowledge of history.. In all reality, just about everyone has been slave to someone else from time to time..hell, china pretty much enslaves the whole population...go fight for them...




Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Thursday, June 09, 2005 9:21 PM on j-body.org
It's just a song, and the problem is that it's become a fixture of complacent "patriotism." Having a song about the republic is meaningless if the repbulic isn't just. (somehow, I can imagine this kind of debate happening about 5-10 years before the fall of Rome) God Bless America is not symbolic of the republic because even in title, it's divisive... it assumes Christian underpinnings.

Black Comics (and white comics that are brave enough to tread into the racial "don't go there whitey" zones) fulfill the same basic function that court fools and Jesters did... they go up in front of you, present you with reality, shorn clean of bullsh*t; as close to the heart of the matter, and show you the fundamental irony and stupidity of a situation. they put their own skew on things because comedy is a very personal thing.

Morality isn't something that most americans are acquainted with inasfar as global affairs are concerned. The last 50 years have been fraught with convenient or obtusely futile and costly exercises in failled foreign policy, and Iraq is just the prelude to another disaster. This part of the post is digressing from the topic.

Segregating populations is stupid.. about as stupid as forced integration. However, hate or ignorance being a learned value, I think most people should learn to live with their neighbours instead of running away from what frightens them. It costs everyone, but then again, it wasn't 10 years ago that people that were not white or male, couldn't go into some Golf clubs because of racism... Hell there's still one or 2 in Georgia and at least 4-5 in Mississippi that have this backwards and hate-inspired policy in effect. This however, is also off topic.

I think it's pretty funny that outside matters are being brought in to cloud the issue. It's mock-patriotism to play a divisive song about a republic that has lost touch with the values espoused in that song. Also, after hearing it for 3 straight years and given that it has nothing at all to do with baseball (a game that has a world series, but only has 1 team outside the USA, WTF is with that?), you'd tend to get tired of it. Think of playing tiptoe through the tulips every 7th inning stretch, and you'll get the picture...




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Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Thursday, June 09, 2005 10:42 PM on j-body.org
I still don't understand the logic.

I'm not trying to bring up other issues to debate, i'm bringing up examples of something very similar but with different topics.

I just don't think it's worth a 3-page debate because of a patriotic song.

I've heard plenty of songs that I don't want to hear at that specific time. Just shrug it off and live with it.... don't complain about everything that gets thrown your way in life.



Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Friday, June 10, 2005 12:09 AM on j-body.org
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Why do I have to sit and watch a group of black comedians make fun of white people and nobody cares? Why do I have to listen to all foreign countries saying how bad they hate Americans, but when America dislikes a country it's "morally wrong"? Why is it alright to racially segregate for the better of colored people, at a white person's expense?
Nobody forces you to sit back and watch anyone make fun of anything. There's this neat invention called a remote...use it.
The reason you hear countries professing their hatred for America is because 99.9% of the time, they have either stabbed hat country in the back, or done some cross handed dealing to cause it. (They is referring to American government.)
In what way is it causing expense through White America to integrate? Because racialist like you seem to dislike/disregard the freedoms of of other Americans because they are the wrong color? You claim to appreciate the freedoms that America offers, but hate it when they are given to everyone and not just whites. By the way...we are not "colored" people. We are Americans PERIOD.




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man, that whole situation is stupid to begin with.. alot o this is appeasement for a small percentage of people owning alot of slaves...for starters, the slaves were inslaved in africa, by the reigning african tribes(to the victor, goes the spoils) slave traders(mostly white) then sent them to the states among other places where they were owned by white and black plantation owners(the largest slave owner in virginia was black)...so yea, it's too bad that they were enslaved, as no one deserves to be slave to any man, but blaming white people for it and only white people for it shows a lack of knowledge of history.. In all reality, just about everyone has been slave to someone else from time to time..hell, china pretty much enslaves the whole population...go fight for them...
It has nothing to do with a lack of knowledge. You pick the major players and they become the targets for justice. In this case, whites were the major players. It is somethign about American past, that still haunts the present and the future because you still have those same bigots and ignorant assoles that think like the people did back in the 1600, which shows the evolution of their blood lines....
And your history needs to be checked...William Ellison was the largest slave owner amongst black owners was the largest. And he was in S. Carolina...not Virginia.


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Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Friday, June 10, 2005 12:23 AM on j-body.org
wow, so i got the wrong southern state...my b.... technically, if the africans weren't selling away their own people when they took their land in the first place, wouldn't they be the major players? i mean, that's like busting the drug users, and letting the dealers go scott free.... but that'd be selling out their own people and it's easier to hate people that don't look like you, huh.....iunno, lol...sounds kinda racist..





Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Friday, June 10, 2005 1:33 AM on j-body.org
Right now, it's 3:30am here. I have a history lesson for you but I get off like right now...stay tuned until around 4pm tomorrow...I'll get your mind correct.


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Friday, June 10, 2005 1:35 AM on j-body.org
I'm sure that you know whites enslaved whites too right? They were doing the exact same tings that africans were doing but...I'll get into that later along with the rest of your history lesson....


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Friday, June 10, 2005 7:57 AM on j-body.org
yes, they sure did....as i illuded to earlier but apparently, it didn't sink in, so here's the quote...

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In all reality, just about everyone has been slave to someone else from time to time..hell, china pretty much enslaves the whole population...go fight for them...


next time, read the whole thread...
GG hinting that i didn't say anything of the sort.....




Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Saturday, June 11, 2005 10:12 PM on j-body.org
I'm tired of God BLess America. He doesn't bless a country who doesn't bless Him.

I got a new saying "America Bless God"


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Re: Enough with the friggin God Bless America
Monday, June 13, 2005 8:59 AM on j-body.org
I love the song and all but you know it's like when a radio station overplays a good song ya just get sick of hearing it after a while especially when they get the flavor of the month artist's that can't sing worth a @!#$ as it is try to sing it and just muck it up in the process.

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Re: SHANER
Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:20 PM on j-body.org
this is way off topic here, 'SHANER', do you come from aurora, colorado?
did you live there in say, 1992?
i was in the 6th grade there and knew a kid named shaner, your name jogged my memory and i was just wondering?
Re: SHANER
Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:45 AM on j-body.org
I think Shaner is from Toronto Canada...

He's otherwise okay except that he's a Leafs fan.




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Re: SHANER
Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:41 PM on j-body.org
Shaner lives in Kingston now, he is originally from Toronto though.

He's a good guy, and I let the whole Leaf fan thing slid, as I have to deal with a lot of them. You get used to them after a while.




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Re: SHANER
Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:59 PM on j-body.org
Hey, my GF is Leaf fan.. until they get eliminated AGAIN from the playoffs



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Re: SHANER
Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:31 PM on j-body.org
oh well thanks anyways
toronto, eh?
is this forum world wide?
Re: SHANER
Saturday, June 25, 2005 8:20 AM on j-body.org
LOL..

Yeah.. this site can be accessed everywhere in the world (except China for the most part).




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Re: SHANER
Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:22 PM on j-body.org
GOD BLESS THIS!!!





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