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Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:52 AM on j-body.org
Why are MOST not all, Canadians just like liberals? Thank god FOX just started airing in canada. did you see that CBC special about FOX? i didnt, but want to hear about it. I heard it was just like micheal moores film, a bunch of "SPIN" or bs twisting the trut.


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:33 AM on j-body.org
Tom, you probably don't remember CBC from before the liberal Gov'ts, but when the conservatives were in power, they toed the PC line pretty closely.

In reality, you can get NEWS anywhere...Editorial is what you're talking about. I figure that at some point, EVERY editor has to eat their words.. And, more importantly, it's probably a better idea to confine yourself to the news, and let the editors ramble on to themselves... But then again, I encourage people to think for themselves.

I don't usually watch the news, but when I do, I turn off the commentary... I don't need someone else telling me what I need to think in order to be right.

My views on the so-called news stations (more like News-porn when you're considering the cable networks) are pretty jaded, but I'll read/watch for the real information, and let spin say whatever it wants... notice it's spin, not movement or evolution... it always goes around.

As for documentaries, you have to understand that they are inheirently biased, because they're telling one-person's or one group's ideals, and intentionally skewing the facts to that agenda. If you think FOX is unbiased, I'd advise you give your head a shake...




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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:36 AM on j-body.org
GAM, can you even get Fox News where you are?
Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:43 AM on j-body.org
ok heres the deal...................every reporter is biased. its imposible not to be. But FOX is a hell of alot less biased then MSNBC or the CBC. Even CNN seems like a conservative station compared to those two


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:47 AM on j-body.org
Yes... We have had it for about a year, ... foisted on us cable/satellite subscribers and yet another reason I have to ignore the upper channels for days on end.

It's been available on Satellite for about 3 years??? Anyhow, I remember seeing the channel earlier on in 2002 I think.

It may get bloody cold, but we're not primatives man... (at least we can see boobies after 11 on regular broadcast TV... ) Any channel that can be had in the US is available here, with either the right equipment, or the right connections.. I mean, we've al jazeera since 1999.


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:40 PM on j-body.org
Tom, reporters report what they see and what happened. That's the idea of REPORTING. (don't make me break out dictionary.com)

The idea of editorialising is trying to rationalise why it's happening, from your take... which in the case of Fox news is usually 3000 miles removed from the action



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:23 PM on j-body.org
to rationalize why things are happening in the world:

look at ever national capitol:

Every national capitol has national leaders in it trying to milk what they can out of the general populace and line their pockets and convince said populace to die for their ideals, rather than being reduced to a nuclear wasteland.

End of freakign report


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:42 PM on j-body.org
Is CBC television available in New York? Or just CBC Radio (worldwide)?

Canadians are primarily Social Conservatives, the problem is that the party of choice is pretty bloody liberal, so much that they even call themselves that. The next election (could be any minute now) will be interesting.. Seperatists will get about 65 of the 75 seats from Quebec. Ontario wil split between the Conservatives and the NDP (arrrrg, they gotta go, or vow to only hold opposition seat, please never let them govern), the west will vote conservative (except BC), and most of the east will vote conservative (at least Nova Scotia). We should end up with a Conservative minority government that will be forced to make deals with the Bloc in order to get anything done... It's gonna be interesting to say the least.


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:46 PM on j-body.org
Do you really think Steven Harper will be a fit PM? I doubt it. Martin may not be all that and a bag of chips, but at least he's opened the doors to transparency


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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 4:56 PM on j-body.org
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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:27 PM on j-body.org
Nope, not convinced Harper is ready for the job, the fact is, it doesn't matter what I think. We are headed for any election regardless, Martin's government is going to fall. It's in shambles, parlament is crippled by the fiasco and it has to change. People are very unhappy with the "Liberal Corruption" (regardless of the PC airbus deal or the other sideways dealings on the hill), and it is boiling over. I think we should wait until formal charges can be laid, the house cleaned and then hold an election, but that isn't going to happen. Quebec is super P.O.'d, the BQ is a shoe in there.. The whole thing sucks.

PAX

Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:59 PM on j-body.org
I hear that.

BQ should not be allowed as a federal or provincial party.. it is NOT a loyal party at all because its raison d'etre is to end confederation.




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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:10 PM on j-body.org
quebec should leave and make everyone happy. . didn't all of the sponsership (sp) money end up in queerbec's hands anyway?



maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow....... but some day
Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:15 PM on j-body.org
Nope... It went to liberal friendly ad-agencies and part was kicked back to ministers.

And if Quebec became its own nation, I'd be pissed because I'd have to pay taxes for owning property in 2 countries!!!



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:34 PM on j-body.org
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And if Quebec became its own nation, I'd be pissed because I'd have to pay taxes for owning property in 2 countries!!!


ouch.... should cost the same there prob wouldnt be a change in currentcies...lol.
most of us people in saskabush west dont like quebec

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Nope... It went to liberal friendly ad-agencies and part was kicked back to ministers.


were the ad agencies not in quebec.

can you watch your dog run a way for three days.................................i didnt think so
i love the prairies



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Friday, April 29, 2005 4:44 AM on j-body.org
You can tell me that your dog ran away
you can tell me that it took three days
I've heard every joke
I've heard every word you said..

You say there's not a lot goin' on..
Look closer babe you're so wrong
and that's why you can stay so long
where there's not a lot going on....


I like Corner Gas.. Very funny show.

The ad agencies were in quebec, but that doesn't mean quebec benefitted from the deal. Justr like when someone in Sask steals, it doesn't mean the province stole, or that anyone else in Sask got anything. If Quebec left (one of the founding provinces in this dominion) we could no longer refer to ourselves as a dominion, we would lose tons of resource, the US would dominate Quebec's economy, therefore policies. The St' Laurence seaway would become a problem (how do you plan to ship that grain?) and most of all, Canada's rich cultural heritage would be nothing more than a memory. Canada stands as an example to the world that very different ethnic states can coexist within the same country and make it work. Canada is not the Balkins and we should not fracture like them either.

For those who hate Quebec, ask yourself why, then figure out how much of your preconcieved notions about the issue are true. Quebec is like Ontario in that it gives more than it recieves. Quebec is a huge benefit to the nation and we can only hope that we can hold this place together.

I have no idea how the BQ got national party status.. I guess as a democracy we can't really stop them.

PAX
Re: Liberals / Canadians
Friday, April 29, 2005 6:38 AM on j-body.org
That'd be like a black/white separatist party in the US gaining National Party status.



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, May 05, 2005 11:53 AM on j-body.org
most canadians are tree huggers. they cant stand bush or war.




Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, May 05, 2005 3:04 PM on j-body.org
No, Most Canadians like Bush... there's 3 types. the Dubya type is all yours.

Go elsewhere troll.



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:44 PM on j-body.org
Tom The Bomb wrote:But FOX is a hell of alot less biased then MSNBC or the CBC. Even CNN seems like a conservative station compared to those two
Please...

Fox isn't less baised than... ANYTHING. I think Jeb Bush is less conservatively biased than Fox. And yes there's going be Conservative bias here, and Liberal bias there - which is exactly why I encourage everybody to stop going to your idiot-box( aka TV) for news - AT ALL. Use your idiot-box for entertainment and nothing more. There are so much better sources for (real and BS free) news it's not funny. Of course most everyone(Conservatives and Liberals alike) just turn on their favorite source(biased the same way they are) on TV anyways. Why? Because they get to hear the "news" spun the way they like it - they get told exactly what they want to hear - that "we" are right and "they" are idiots. It's really pretty sad.

Hairy Blackdude wrote:most canadians are tree huggers. they cant stand bush or war.
Do you know much of ANYTHING about Canada, let alone anything of what you're talking about?! Didn't think so. So STFU you ignorant asshat.

P.S. I'm not a Canadian, in fact I've been an American all my life and I love my country. But ignorant @!#$ tools who talk out of their asses like this, make ALL Americans look like complete mindless @!#$ dumbasses - and we're not all this way(just some of us).





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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Thursday, May 05, 2005 8:55 PM on j-body.org
BK3000: You're... not.. ALL .. that way???



(please not for those that have knicker-twistitis, I'm being heavily and even bitingly sarcastic).

Anyhow... Hairy Blackdude is a troll, and I wouldn't countenance his posts because they don't add to a discussion and they usually are trolling expeditions...



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Saturday, May 07, 2005 1:00 PM on j-body.org
I am Canadian!!

I don't like what Bush did going to war with Iraq for NO good reason. That's about it.

I like to drink Canadian beer (not American piss water, but there are SOME good micro brews on the west coast). I like to smoke pot once in a while.

I do not vote for the Liberals or the New Democratic Party. Actually, it doesn't matter who you elect to power, they'll all screw it up anyway.

I like to scratch my balls, and work on cars. I work hard for my measly pay, and the government still takes 1/3 of it away every day. Then they tax me more and more on what I buy with the 2/3's thats left. Damnit.

Yeah.. I'm Canadian..






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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Sunday, May 08, 2005 7:44 AM on j-body.org
Stephen Harper is a joke, they shoulda gone for that Belinda Stronach chick, she was pretty hot and the conservatives might actually get some votes then....
Re: Liberals / Canadians
Sunday, May 08, 2005 7:49 AM on j-body.org
Neither Harper nor Stronach have the chops to govern. Leyton will screw it up royally just like Bob Rae did in Ontario. Martin isn't seen as being particularly trustworthy, but that's because he's getting roped into the whole Adscam bit, I don't know what his testimony was, but I think that once he was kicked out of cabinet, he still did a hell of a job... and his economic policy has brought Canada out of the defecit spending quagmire.



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Re: Liberals / Canadians
Sunday, May 08, 2005 8:19 AM on j-body.org
True but that's only because he applied conservative priciples to the buget. He is the most conservative (fiscally) liberal I have ever seen. I think he works for the wrong party.

Let's face it, right now we have no leader, just a bunch of people trying to lead.

PAX
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