of course, it's a double standard..
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:As I said, what's the double standard for? One standard is just fine.
This is life. Everything is not black and white. Mind as well ask why men can sleep around but women cannot, it just is.
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bliZsham wrote:Is BET racist? I know I'd be called racist if I wanted to start White Entertainment Television.
Like said, it's a double standard. BET isn't racist per say, they just show black artist videos and black run comedy shows mostly.
I don't know what it is but America has this double standard for blacks sometimes, like you said you can BET but WET wouldn't happen cause they'd have a crap load of lawsuits or a ton of complaints saying that it's racist.
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great idea for a thread..great meaphor too to post it in this forum
im from Canada near Toronto and have been exposed to millions of different people all mixed in together...After I moved to Iowa, I noticed here they population is much more homegenous - whites everywhere - except in the college towns which have a lot of Asians and Indians. Since I've been here I've been to many small towns and met lots of locals, and there is definitely some animosity towards non-whites from the small town people.
I notice there is a big difference in Toronto vs. here... The level of integration in Toronto is much better... people smile at each other and are all mixed up... here in Iowa, go to davenport, and there's a clear line between the black area and the white area... it sucks, and i cant wait to move from here and go back to Canada (this november).
i'd love to see WETtv... but i dont want it to be white people television... all wet chick tv would be fine though. why is the 'nigger' use an issue.. are white people pissed b/c they cant say it? say it all day long if you want to... if you are dying to call a black person a nigger, youre an @!#$. so say it or dont say it. but if you do say it... keep in mind someone of any race may reserve the right to make you eat their shoe.
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I'll get in on this as well.
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Is BET racist? I know I'd be called racist if I wanted to start White Entertainment Television.
Turns the 200+ channels on your television and count how many shows, and networks are geared towards the dominating race in the United States. That will show you why there's a BET, WE, Lifetime, ETC....It's all about pleasing the majority, so what's wrong with having a station for the minorities? Nothign at all. Stop trying to put a racist spin on somethign that was never meant to be a form of racism.
As far as the word "nigger" goes and why it still offends some, you have to understand the thought process of the person that it offends. Most blacks will be offended because they associate the word without knowing any other background than what they saw in "Roots" and knowing it was slave terminology. Others will be offended by the fact that they know the history behind the word, and that they still feel the sting of it all even though they never truly experienced slavery or discrimination on any of the levels that their ancestors have. Regardless of that fact, the tongue can be the dealiest weaponry that any person can have. Words hurt, they bring about emotions and thoughts that normally one would not have.
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so,why does that word affect you? are you a slave?...I don't think you are, i mean, i'm pretty sure you're not..That tells me that you harbor the same hatred that you condemn whites for... If you were not racist, that word would mean nothing to you.
Has nothing to do with someone being a racist. It has to do with what was explained above. In addition to that, you truly have no idea.
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I am a white female in my 20s and I have experienced this first hand from the area that I live in and the high school that I went to. My high school was 13% white...therefore, I was a minority and was treated like so...even by teachers. I had world history in 10th grade and I was one of 5 white kids in a class of 30. Our teacher got on a rant one day about how us "white kids were priveledged and that we have everything handed to us and that we should be ashamed of what our parents do for us". Needless to say, we were harrassed more when we got our parents involved.
Of course, you were a minority amongst children of vast immaturity. Now, become a minority around those of age who should nknow better. become a victim of an imbalalce in the criminal justice system. Look at the root causes of different laws that have been enacted. Look at the fact the government once conspired to destroy the communities of the black people. Live under the system just one time as a real minority and you wills ee. But wait...you are a minority. Once you experience gender discrimination, come back and tell me how it feels.
Now from the responses to those who have been quoted and such, one would tend to think that I'm racist or saying tehse things as a defender of the black race. That's far from the truth. I speak from reality of situations. I know that the racist in this country are a minority. I do understand that things have improved since 1960, but it's nothing like it should be. As mentioned before, it goes to show how things really are now that 9/11 happened in this country. I hate a black racist as much as I do a white. I also despise those that try and downplay racism, slavery, and the attempted destruction of a race as if it was nothing. How can you know where you're going, if you don't know from whence you came? It is all a part of American history. A part of that history that people shun at and would rather not bring up. but it is a history that should be talked about, and that should be discussed openly. That way, view points can be made, and facts can be stated so everyone leaves enlightened just that much more.
I have an aunt and a birth fatehr that would love to see Amreica just as a white racist would...segregated and everyone racially charged. I despise tehm. I don't associate myself with them because of their views. Race is something society created way back before any of us were ever thought of, and it's something that our generations should stamp out equally across the board! The first thing to do is to get informed. The second, is to act on that information. The last thing is to teach our children the things we have learned through our mistakes and therefore create a better future for our children, for they are our most important asset.
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I forgot to add this to the long drawn out post above. It's good reading for teh ones who choose to use that word regardless of race.
The "N" Word
In this modern day world
We seem to consume
The "N" word of hate
The slave word for doom
This word has been drenched
In red from our blood
It enslaved us like swine
Chain dragged through the mud
How fast we forget
Those lynch mobs and scars
The burnings and beatings
Those hot branding bars
Our freedom was taken
Our humanity stole
We were just that "N" word
No body no soul
Our women were raped
Some men were castrated
Black children were sold
Our race was degraded
With the crack of a whip
This word was yelled out
With each break in our necks
The rope showed know doubt
We were hunted like prey
Then put on the block
We were branded as slaves
With a chain brace and lock
This "N" word was use
To take guilt out of blame
Because it made us inhuman
To be killed with no shame
Yet after all of those years
Of that suffering pain
The use of this word
Has weaken our brain
We throw it around
Like a word with no past
But history lives on
From the shadow it cast
It's now part of our language
In every sentence we say
It shows off our ignorance
In a sorry sad way
There's no other culture
And no other race
That would embrace such a slur
Or welcome disgrace
Yet we as Black people
Have done so for years
Our dignity lost
Without feelings or tears
It's part of the reason
We will never excel
Or out-live our slums
And Ghetto-ish hell
David Farrar
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"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
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Turns the 200+ channels on your television and count how many shows, and networks are geared towards the dominating race in the United States. That will show you why there's a BET, WE, Lifetime, ETC....It's all about pleasing the majority, so what's wrong with having a station for the minorities? Nothign at all. Stop trying to put a racist spin on somethign that was never meant to be a form of racism.
I couldn't disagree with this anymore. I agree that television is geared toward the majority of a station's viewers, but it's not necessarily based on race. It can be based on any particular demographic... I can honestly say that the only television stations I watch regularly are ESPN, History Channel, Animal Planet, and Discovery Channel. To suggest that those are geared toward any particular race couldn't be any more wrong. The problem I have with BET is that it is specifically geared toward a race. And if the "majority" wanted to have its own channel that promoted whatever it chose, it would be considered racist.
I'm white and I'm not ashamed of it, black people shouldn't be ashamed of being black, and asians shouldn't be ashamed either. None of us had a choice, so no, I'm not going to apologize for the things our ancestors have done or put up with in the past. Race shouldn't be used as leverage for anything. The reason racism still exists is because of the double standard that is promotes and because people use it to their advantage. No one should get anything for free, and the most qualified should be the one who gets the biggest piece of cake... period.
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Turns the 200+ channels on your television and count how many shows, and networks are geared towards the dominating race in the United States. That will show you why there's a BET, WE, Lifetime, ETC....It's all about pleasing the majority, so what's wrong with having a station for the minorities? Nothign at all. Stop trying to put a racist spin on somethign that was never meant to be a form of racism.
I couldn't disagree with this anymore. I agree that television is geared toward the majority of a station's viewers, but it's not necessarily based on race. It can be based on any particular demographic... I can honestly say that the only television stations I watch regularly are ESPN, History Channel, Animal Planet, and Discovery Channel. To suggest that those are geared toward any particular race couldn't be any more wrong. The problem I have with BET is that it is specifically geared toward a race. And if the "majority" wanted to have its own channel that promoted whatever it chose, it would be considered racist.
I'm white and I'm not ashamed of it, black people shouldn't be ashamed of being black, and asians shouldn't be ashamed either. None of us had a choice, so no, I'm not going to apologize for the things our ancestors have done or put up with in the past. Race shouldn't be used as leverage for anything. The reason racism still exists is because of the double standard that is promotes and because people use it to their advantage. No one should get anything for free, and the most qualified should be the one who gets the biggest piece of cake... period.
Let's be realistic now Bliz. What audience is the largest in America? 77.1% of America is White. You have to realize that it's in that where the money lies as far as viewers are concerned. Again...reality of it, not what you'd like to distinguish it as.
"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
BET isn't putting out a racist message or programming... If they were, they'd get shut down pretty quickly.
My only problem with BET is the same problem I have with about half of the specialty channels out there... I don't want to watch it, so why should I have to pay for it? (my cable company mixes in low-view channels with popular ones... as a result, I can't get Discovery Channel without BET, and I can't get TSN without RDS and other french sports channels... )
Anyhow.. I don't object to having BET on the list, as long as there's nothing hateful or illegal on the channel, I say go for it. There's Fairchild Television (Asian community), there's a few Mid-eastern channels, at least 6 East indian/Sri Lankan channels, hell, we get BBC and and a German channel (I forget the name just now). BET just adds to the mix, and I say that's great. If there's a demand, why not meet it?
WET will never happen... not ever. Over 70% of television isn't geared to racial minorities, so by default, it's to age demographics or religious demographics. Roo-rah. That 70% is, by default, geared to whites. What would you put on WET anyhow? Britney and fetus Spears' new show: kid chaotic? How to look white-trash chic? Nauseating re-runs of the Family Feud and Survivor? Half of Television isn't worth watching to begin with.
I ask this in purely academic consideration: what is the racial demographic of BET's Board of Governors?
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Chamillionaire wrote:
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I am a white female in my 20s and I have experienced this first hand from the area that I live in and the high school that I went to. My high school was 13% white...therefore, I was a minority and was treated like so...even by teachers. I had world history in 10th grade and I was one of 5 white kids in a class of 30. Our teacher got on a rant one day about how us "white kids were priveledged and that we have everything handed to us and that we should be ashamed of what our parents do for us". Needless to say, we were harrassed more when we got our parents involved.
Once you experience gender discrimination, come back and tell me how it feels.
I know how it feels thank you...why is it here at work that I there is a male who has less education than I do but yet he makes twice what I make...I have more experience in his field that he does. He is only 2 years older than me. Explain that one.
And being white in my area is being a minority. I have lived in the same city all my life. So do me a favor and realize that just because I am white woman does not make me any less of a minority than you being a black male living in Alabama.
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I am a white female in my 20s and I have experienced this first hand from the area that I live in and the high school that I went to. My high school was 13% white...therefore, I was a minority and was treated like so...even by teachers. I had world history in 10th grade and I was one of 5 white kids in a class of 30. Our teacher got on a rant one day about how us "white kids were priveledged and that we have everything handed to us and that we should be ashamed of what our parents do for us". Needless to say, we were harrassed more when we got our parents involved.
Once you experience gender discrimination, come back and tell me how it feels.
I know how it feels thank you...why is it here at work that I there is a male who has less education than I do but yet he makes twice what I make...I have more experience in his field that he does. He is only 2 years older than me. Explain that one.
And being white in my area is being a minority. I have lived in the same city all my life. So do me a favor and realize that just because I am white woman does not make me any less of a minority than you being a black male living in Alabama.
I'm not trying to explain anything to you because it's not why I contested your argument. Your being white in your area more than likely doesn't subject you to unjust due process. It probably doesn't subject you to constant harassment by the local PD because of your race and the stereotypes that come along with it, as well as the profiling now does it? You misunderstand what I am saying here. Your trying to tell me you know how it feels to be a minority compared to the treatment of decent black Americans is like me tryig to tell you I know what it feels like to go through child birth...will never happen.
"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:BET isn't putting out a racist message or programming... If they were, they'd get shut down pretty quickly.
My only problem with BET is the same problem I have with about half of the specialty channels out there... I don't want to watch it, so why should I have to pay for it? (my cable company mixes in low-view channels with popular ones... as a result, I can't get Discovery Channel without BET, and I can't get TSN without RDS and other french sports channels... )
Anyhow.. I don't object to having BET on the list, as long as there's nothing hateful or illegal on the channel, I say go for it. There's Fairchild Television (Asian community), there's a few Mid-eastern channels, at least 6 East indian/Sri Lankan channels, hell, we get BBC and and a German channel (I forget the name just now). BET just adds to the mix, and I say that's great. If there's a demand, why not meet it?
WET will never happen... not ever. Over 70% of television isn't geared to racial minorities, so by default, it's to age demographics or religious demographics. Roo-rah. That 70% is, by default, geared to whites. What would you put on WET anyhow? Britney and fetus Spears' new show: kid chaotic? How to look white-trash chic? Nauseating re-runs of the Family Feud and Survivor? Half of Television isn't worth watching to begin with.
I ask this in purely academic consideration: what is the racial demographic of BET's Board of Governors?
I agree with you 100% on everything you said here
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Chamillionaire wrote:snoeterp82 wrote:Chamillionaire wrote:
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I am a white female in my 20s and I have experienced this first hand from the area that I live in and the high school that I went to. My high school was 13% white...therefore, I was a minority and was treated like so...even by teachers. I had world history in 10th grade and I was one of 5 white kids in a class of 30. Our teacher got on a rant one day about how us "white kids were priveledged and that we have everything handed to us and that we should be ashamed of what our parents do for us". Needless to say, we were harrassed more when we got our parents involved.
Once you experience gender discrimination, come back and tell me how it feels.
I know how it feels thank you...why is it here at work that I there is a male who has less education than I do but yet he makes twice what I make...I have more experience in his field that he does. He is only 2 years older than me. Explain that one.
And being white in my area is being a minority. I have lived in the same city all my life. So do me a favor and realize that just because I am white woman does not make me any less of a minority than you being a black male living in Alabama.
It probably doesn't subject you to constant harassment by the local PD because of your race and the stereotypes that come along with it, as well as the profiling now does it?
Kinda hard for that to happen since my husband is a cop...
Stereotyping is always going to exist , the difference is how you accept it. Most of it is about the loudest wheel getting the grease. You never hear about racism against anyone but the black and now America's new scapegoat the Arab decent. I grew up in a school that was 50 % white 40 % black and 10% other. I know that there was no real differences between us except the way that people acted. I don't hold anyones background against them until they start making excuses. Its how you deal with things that determines the person you are. If you go through life blaming your failures on your ethnic background your going to live an unsuccessful life of hate, and worse your kids will grow up thinking the same way. I've seen both sides and really I think it comes down to the parents fault. I know when I was in school I'd hear the black kids say "I dont trust no white ppl, or I cant hang out with you cause you white". Thier parents instilled this in them. On the other side I'd know white kids putting rebel flag plates on thier cars and hearing thier parents talk about how all black people were lazy. Same things go for sexual orientations. I used to think that all of them had some kinda problem but now as I've gotten away from my sheltered life I've met Lesbians and Gays and even some that i'd consider friends. Does that make me Gay simply by knowing them, NO. Does it send me to hell, NO. They are actually pretty hilarous most of the time.
I'm really glad that the only real prejustice that I grew up with is hating the republican party. I am much more accepting of ppl now than I used to be, but that all goes out the door if I hear ppl making excuses for thier failures based on thier background. Everyone is discriminated against during your life, that is life , deal with it.
I'm a 24 year old middle class white male, you might think what possible descrimination can you experience? I'll tell you, in school the black kids used to try to go after the white kids or hate them. I didn't do anything to them. I had good grades but the very top of my class. Kids with some special ethnic background got scholarships to college when they had lower grades than me and came from families with higher income. My parents weren't rich enough to afford it and weren't poor enough to get any help. I used to joke about someday to make a scholarship for white kids with average grades not playing sports, or in special after school clubs from the middle class, because right now they get nothing from anyone. How did I deal with this descrimination? I got a job and worked my ass off and paid my own way without any loans and went to a community college.
The person that complains about racism only complains and doesn't make thier own solution to the problem
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well i don't know if this well make any sense....kinda drunk... but i was taught by my parents to treat every equal and repect people even if they don't deserve it saying that, a couple nights ago my roommate was playing PS2 that was mine with the kid next door (happens to be black) they were playing so race car game and he kept saying man i wish i had a PS2 and this game over and over again. my roommate leaves for work, locks all the doors. i get home 30mins later and someone broke the basement window and stole just the PS2 and the game. THATS IT. right beside the Ps2 was a laptop and about 100dvd and other PS2 games. am i racised to think he took it?
when we went to go talk to him he just ran away, and called us rednecks for "blaming" him.
sorry if this doesn't make sense.
Heh yeah... being a chick in the automotive field is really rough.
I worked at this HUGE dealership in Hanover PA. MY FIRST DAY THERE the painter (who only had 6 months of painting under his belt, and knew nothing about body work... and I had YEARS of painting AND body work under my belt... and he made over $3/hr more than me)... anywho's... MY FIRST DAY THERE he looked at me and said "Women don't belong in the garage, in a body or mechanics shop, or around cars period".
Well... me being the person I am... just shrugged it off and thought to myself "Maybe he just has a really really bad sense of humor"....
Well it wasn't that... he kept harassing me, swearing at me and calling me names... belittling me... it got to the point where I"d literally have to argue with myself to get up out of bed for work.... then argue with myself over a cup of coffee as to whether or not I should get dressed for work... then argue with myself on whether or not I should go. To make it worse... the painter and the body shop manager were tight... like siamese twins... so talking to the painter and manager got nothing accomplished... it just kept happening
Well eventually I ended up slipping on a puddle of tranny fluid that the painter was supposed to clean up, hurting my knee pretty bad. Had to file for workers comp, and of course they faught me with that. Ended up having to get a lawyer, settled for $1000 for my lawyer and $4000 for me... and had to resign my employment there.
There's still a lot of guys like that... but there's still some who are like "cool a chick that can work on cars"...
I know what discrimination feels like... and it sucks. All I wanted to do was go to work and collect my paycheck every week. *sighs*
Hey, I don't care who works on my car so long as it working right when I get it, and the price quoted is met.
After that, I don't care if a drunken sypphlitic dwarf with 2 heads did the work... Well... in that case, I'd hope they wore gloves and didn't try to lick anything.
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Tabasco Racing has been SOLD wrote:im a middle aged white male.
whats with the word nigger?
How many words do we know that have such a thick, profound history and foundation rooted in hate?
What makes it worse is when middle aged white males have lived for so long and haven't been sensitive enough to figure this out on their own.... further making it insulting. How many old white males haven't taken the time to really explain to their kids the history of such a word? Probably few... "it's just a word!". How insulting is THAT?
It's not "just a word". "Cat", "Dog", "Milk" are just words.
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I don't give a @!#$ what color someone is, but I certainly don't feel bad for any black person. When a black person starts acting racist "we were slaves da-da-da the white man be holding us down" I laugh and walk away. I don't feel guilty, sorry, or sad-- I don't sympathies with racist people of any kind. When it comes to slavery, I wasn't there, neither were you. Your ancestors were slaves; you as a black person living in 2005 can't even begin to comprehend the suffering they endured, neither can I, so don't point fingers at me like I owe you something, like I even have to respect you simply because you're black. Have your BET, your united negro college fund, your FUBU, and all of these things that you use to segregate yourselves.
As far as the word Nigga goes, like in the movie Coach Carter "stop disrespecting yourselves." Minorities (not just blacks) call each other nigga, so apparently it doesn't mean what it used to. Well whitey has gotten so used to hearing it that we just don't give a @!#$ about what it once meant. You guys wanted to own it, well now you ownt it, congrats on taking the defenition of ignorance and making it an acceptable slang word in 2005, bravo! I'am sure this would make historical leaders like MLK Jr proud!
im half cast (mum white, dad black) and when i was in high school i played for the soccer team and when i scored a goal against another team some paki had the guts to call me a "nigger" so i gave him some racist abuse back by callin him a "paki" and i was the one who got in trouble for being racist and he called me a nigger. so in the end i kicked his a$$ lol.
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AGuSTiN wrote:Tabasco Racing has been SOLD wrote:im a middle aged white male.
whats with the word nigger?
How many words do we know that have such a thick, profound history and foundation rooted in hate?
What makes it worse is when middle aged white males have lived for so long and haven't been sensitive enough to figure this out on their own.... further making it insulting. How many old white males haven't taken the time to really explain to their kids the history of such a word? Probably few... "it's just a word!". How insulting is THAT?
It's not "just a word". "Cat", "Dog", "Milk" are just words.
do you think maybe you over simplified what i was asking or meaning? i was asking more along the lines of how/why it was a double standard. and i still think that it is just a word. no i dont use it, but i dont see why such an emphasis is put on it. and since it was in the original story that started this thread, thats why i asked.
sizzy: you hit the nail on the head there......"Have your BET, your united negro college fund, your FUBU, and
all of these things that you use to segregate yourselves."
Tabasco Racing has been SOLD wrote:
do you think maybe you over simplified what i was asking or meaning? i was asking more along the lines of how/why it was a double standard. and i still think that it is just a word. no i dont use it, but i dont see why such an emphasis is put on it. and since it was in the original story that started this thread, thats why i asked.
sizzy: you hit the nail on the head there......"Have your BET, your united negro college fund, your FUBU, and all of these things that you use to segregate yourselves."
I suppose if you had black friends who were cool with you saying it to them, then there's no double standard at all. Problem with some blacks trying to own the word is that many other blacks want nothing to do with it. I prefer to error on the side of caution and respect and not use it.
And to continue to say it's just a word is being stubborn. Go into Harlem and yell some words. Then yell "nigger" and see if it's "just a word".
It's not. Face it. Don't be stubborn.
BTW, many minorities groups in the past of set up separate institutions to help themselves gain equal footing in America. I'm not just talking about colored minorities, either. Jews, Italians, Irish etc etc have done the same.
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Ya well I can check the Native American box on my college application instead of caucasian just because I have Indian blood -- sure I can use that to my advantage but thats all it is. I don't go to @!#$ pow-wows and celebrate my ancestry, I'd just be using it to save a buck. United Negro College fund = using your race to your advantage to save a buck. You can't bitch about not being equal and in the same breath segregate yourself by using a system created for blacks only. I've got no issues with it, hey use it to your advantage, get an education, do better for yourself, but be honest about it -- don't come on TV asking for my white money that apparently isn't good enough because I can't get a free ride along with you, so simply, @!#$ you. For Us By Us, alright, I guess black people forgot about calling Tommy Hilfiger a racist simply because he didn't use black models in a few of his campaigns; his preference- racist, FUBU- the coolest @!#$ to hit K-Mart in years.
Stop being so PC, it's not honest.
No sane white person is going to go in any ghetto let alone go in the ghetto just to scream nigger. Of course you're going to get a negative response, silly goose. It's a matter of it being an acceptable slang term amongst minorities instead of a racial slur. They took this word and made it slang. As far as I'am concerned nigger and all variations of it is still nothing to be proud of. I don't see any rappers yelling out "what up my crack smoking Welfare abusing 80 kids that you don't support having can't read and write ghetto ass @!#$". Pssh.
