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Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 11:55 AM on j-body.org
racism and sterotypes will always be common place in this country, thats just how it is. everyone is racist, its just that some supress it better than others. every race is so diverse and unique that is damn near impossible for one to COMPLETLY understand anither. ive tried explaining the way we (black people) use the word nigga to whites, latinos, even asians. no matter how detailed my explanation was there is no possible way they can undesrstand with out being black. i use the word on a regular basis between me and my friends and i have stomped out a couple non blacks for using the word. just my 2 cents.

ill end on a quote from a comedic genious:

"i'm not racist, i hate everyone the same..."

Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 1:38 PM on j-body.org
j b wrote:ive tried explaining the way we (black people) use the word nigga to whites, latinos, even asians. no matter how detailed my explanation was there is no possible way they can undesrstand with out being black. i use the word on a regular basis between me and my friends and i have stomped out a couple non blacks for using the word. just my 2 cents.


You are right, I will never understand. I dont know how you could take such an ugly word and use a variant of it as slang. You dont see me going around calling my white friends rednecks and honkeys. I have never seen any of my latino friends call another friend a spic. I have never seen any of my asian friends call each chinks.

As for resulting to violence, grow up. Boys fight, men walk away.



Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 3:25 PM on j-body.org
Stereotyping DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE NORM. You can choose your attitude, grow the hell up.

Stephanie: Real men fight for what's worth fighting for... some twat-drop acting like a punk ain't worth my time... doesn't matter the colour. Ignorance has no race.




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Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:02 PM on j-body.org
I live in hamilton, ontario near toronto......... and blacks and whites get along well.... I have a few black friends, and a mulatto friend........

and everyone gets along good..... BUt I do notice outside of my group of friends, the only white guys that are with blacks most of the time are dressed the same, and all, like thuggish........ which is totally cool.....

for example, do you ever see a black thug guy walkin down the street with a white guy in abercrombie and fitch????

i wonder why

Im sure there are blacks that hate whites, and whites that hate blacks, I dont know why, why cant we all just get along and be the same.....
Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:05 PM on j-body.org
also id like to add to that, some of my friends, are always like why u listenin to that gansta @!#$..... i listen to alot of shyne, jadakiss, eminem, 2pac, krs1

I wear whatever i like, i wear AE, abercrombie, and some days ill wear baggy urban style clothing, just whatever mood im in........

some people thnk you have to be a certain colour to listen to a certain type of music........im white, and i like rap/hip hop over anything
Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Tuesday, June 28, 2005 4:47 PM on j-body.org
AGuSTiN wrote:
I suppose if you had black friends who were cool with you saying it to them, then there's no double standard at all. Problem with some blacks trying to own the word is that many other blacks want nothing to do with it. I prefer to error on the side of caution and respect and not use it.

And to continue to say it's just a word is being stubborn. Go into Harlem and yell some words. Then yell "nigger" and see if it's "just a word".



nigger, cracker, spic....these are still just words. I REALIZE that people put certain meanings behind them...but if i were to go to harlem and say that, this is how it would go down:
group of black guys: "yada yada small talk with a nigga here or a nigga there"
me: walks up to them and waves, then says "hey my niggas"
group of black guys: "what the fukk did you just say, cracker". then they beat the @!#$ out of me.
fair? right? acceptable? no, no, shouldnt be. it would be completely different if they hadnt just used the same exact word seconds before i did.

and again, i KNOW not to use that word. i dont, even with the few black people i know. what i was trying to decipher in all of this, is WHY its such a bad word when one skin color says it, but quite alright when another skin color says it. because i believe that we are all the same....skin color doesnt matter to me....
white=black=red=yellow=blue or any other skin color you can think of...they are all the same
so since black=says nigga, then it would stand to reason that white=says nigga.

i KNOW thats not how it works in real life situations, but i was asking a black person WHY because in his original story, he was called it and was obviously offended by it.

jb: we are not all racists. we are all prejudiced, but not racists. there is a HUGE difference between the two.

you say youve tried to explain why you can use it, then explain it to me. by allowing yourself to say it, but disallowing white people to say it, you are actively SEGREGATING and DISCRIMINATING. think about it....

sizzy: same here....im about 1/4 indian...more than enough to get me part of a casino lol or at least a scholorship. but i prefer to work for something instead of having it given to me, esp when i dont "celebrate" my native american heritage. no sprit walks or any of that crap. hell, i dont even like to hunt.






Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 7:06 AM on j-body.org
”You can only be destroyed by believing that you really are what the white world calls a nigger” - James Baldwin.

He pretty much says what I think about the word.

Think I'm racist? Grab a spoon and get ready to eat my.....

This guy is pretty much a bad ass in my book. He doesn't just write about race by the way. So if you want to check out his site it's www.8bm.com.

That is all.
Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:56 PM on j-body.org
Wow, left for a couple of days, and this thread has blown up, anyway.

As I said before I'm a black male in Alabama, been here all my life, and racism in some places is the norm. But I've dun my share of rally's and protest, but I have learned something very informative, about racism. We as a people(blackpeople) have grown to use that term and it's meaning as a walking stick, or a cruch(sp?). I see so many black people preaching to the end with racism this and that. but at the same time, they say let's support the united negro college fund, or any other Black owned, and only black supported organization. I've been fought, shot at, and everything because of my opinon. I think the only way to destroy racism, is for everyone to live as one, and not have certain standards for one race, and not for another. Or for someone to get hired at a job, because they don't have enough minorites, working there. Things of that nature.





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Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:09 PM on j-body.org
WitMyMoney wrote:Wow, left for a couple of days, and this thread has blown up, anyway.

As I said before I'm a black male in Alabama, been here all my life, and racism in some places is the norm. But I've dun my share of rally's and protest, but I have learned something very informative, about racism. We as a people(blackpeople) have grown to use that term and it's meaning as a walking stick, or a cruch(sp?). I see so many black people preaching to the end with racism this and that. but at the same time, they say let's support the united negro college fund, or any other Black owned, and only black supported organization. I've been fought, shot at, and everything because of my opinon. I think the only way to destroy racism, is for everyone to live as one, and not have certain standards for one race, and not for another. Or for someone to get hired at a job, because they don't have enough minorites, working there. Things of that nature.


You sir are a fantastic human being and I applaud you for being courageous and having the balls to step outside of the box.







Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 3:47 PM on j-body.org
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United Negro College fund = using your race to your advantage to save a buck. You can't bitch about not being equal and in the same breath segregate yourself by using a system created for blacks only. I've got no issues with it, hey use it to your advantage, get an education, do better for yourself, but be honest about it -- don't come on TV asking for my white money that apparently isn't good enough because I can't get a free ride along with you, so simply, @!#$ you.
UNCF was created during a time when the racism and disadvantage of being black ran it's highest. It was necessary then, and it's necessary now. One thing that you may not know is that the UNCF provides funds for the operating cost of 39 historically black colleges, which lowers the tuition cost of these institutions. That in itself benefits ALL races whoc choose to attend those colleges/universities. UNCF is needed to provide Black America the opportunity to get more in depth with their history. There is no other race that has been more cut off from that than the Black Americans. We deserve at least that much from having to learn about the Anglos for 12 years don't we?

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For Us By Us, alright, I guess black people forgot about calling Tommy Hilfiger a racist simply because he didn't use black models in a few of his campaigns; his preference- racist, FUBU- the coolest @!#$ to hit K-Mart in years.
Getting your facts straight during a debate is usually mandatory. He was not called racist durign that RUMOR because he didn't use black models. It was because it was rumored that he said if he knew that other races were going to wear his clothing, he would not have made them so nice. Your level of grade school shows when you make comments like the last one.

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No sane white person is going to go in any ghetto let alone go in the ghetto just to scream nigger. Of course you're going to get a negative response, silly goose. It's a matter of it being an acceptable slang term amongst minorities instead of a racial slur. They took this word and made it slang. As far as I'am concerned nigger and all variations of it is still nothing to be proud of.
About the only thing we can agree on here in all that you wrote. I respect your feelings and stand with you on this statement. For reference if you already hadn't, read the poem I posted, and print them out to hand to every idiot that you hear using that word as it if is a form of endearment. That's what I do. You may nothave as easy a time as I do though! LOL!
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I don't see any rappers yelling out "what up my crack smoking Welfare abusing 80 kids that you don't support having can't read and write ghetto ass @!#$". Pssh.
Let's be real here. Welfare, dominated by whites. Most "breed em' can't feed em" dominated by whites. Most drug users in America, dominated by whites. Illiteracy, by numbers...dominated by whites.
I'm far from being a racist, just hate misinformation.


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 4:00 PM on j-body.org
WitMyMoney wrote:Wow, left for a couple of days, and this thread has blown up, anyway.

As I said before I'm a black male in Alabama, been here all my life, and racism in some places is the norm. But I've dun my share of rally's and protest, but I have learned something very informative, about racism. We as a people(blackpeople) have grown to use that term and it's meaning as a walking stick, or a cruch(sp?). I see so many black people preaching to the end with racism this and that. but at the same time, they say let's support the united negro college fund, or any other Black owned, and only black supported organization. I've been fought, shot at, and everything because of my opinon. I think the only way to destroy racism, is for everyone to live as one, and not have certain standards for one race, and not for another. Or for someone to get hired at a job, because they don't have enough minorites, working there. Things of that nature.
The reason that you hear blacks preaching to other blacks about supporting black owned businesses is because they are usually in the predominantly black neighborhoods. If you support the businesses in your neighborhood, they can give back to the community. Instead, blacks will support the locally owned liquor stores and drug dealers and can't begin to fathom why the community is in such disarray. The other reson is simply because black businesses are usually struggling businesses. Not very many whites will support them, so it is up to blacks to ensure they don't take a nose dive. How is that racist?
How is the word "nigger" being used as a crutch? Every University has alumni that support ONLY that university. Noone has complained about that yet. As I mentioned before, the UNCF has been applied in a fashion that it can benefit not only blacks. You people need to get educated about things before you speak on them. And i need to start hitting the "n" and "g" keys in proper order!
There is only one way to dissolve racism, and that's through educating our youth. Teaching them about cultures other than their own, and shielding them from the racist in all groups....even if that means separation from family. I have done it for myself, and will do it again for my children unless my family comes around.


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."

Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Thursday, June 30, 2005 6:20 PM on j-body.org
I will mention this in regards to racism and prejudice...

it helps a lot if you let it roll off your back as much as tyou can and be as disaffectred by it. I'm not saying that's the end-all-beat-all answer, or that injustices faced by all races at the hands of someone else can and should be tolerated, but in a lot of cases, if you're disaffected by it, and take a "whatever, i have better things to do" attitude, it takes the "fun" out of prejudice...

In other words, be true to who you are and let naysayers be damed to their own machinations. Diversity and integration can coexist if you have an open mind


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Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Friday, July 01, 2005 6:47 PM on j-body.org
You took my sarcasm literally, how typical. Well if you want to be a prick and make digs, lets make digs.


-The Bureau of Justice Statistics, 12 percent of all African American men between the ages of 20 and 34 are in prison, versus 1.6 percent of white men.

The Bureau of Justice Statistics reports that nationally 12 percent of all African American men between the ages of 20 and 34 are in prison.

Guess how many white men between the ages of 20 and 34 are in prision?

1.6 percent.

The Justice Policy Institute reports that in Texas blacks are incarcerated at a rate 63%.


-As the welfare rolls continue to plunge, white recipients are leaving the system much faster than black and Hispanic recipients, pushing the minority share of the caseload to the highest level on record.

White, black and Hispanic recipients are all leaving welfare at unprecedented rates. But the disproportionately large exodus of whites has altered the racial balance in a program long rife with racial conflict and stereotypes, according to figures that were compiled in an analysis of recent state data by The New York Times.

The legacy of those stereotypes makes the discussion of race and welfare an unusually sensitive one. In the past, advocates and scholars have taken pains to note there were more white families on welfare than black. But that is no longer the case.

Blacks now outnumber whites. The Hispanic share of the rolls is growing fastest. And black and Hispanic recipients combined outnumber whites by about 2 to 1. In addition, the remaining caseload is increasingly concentrated in large cities.

I thought this was a good rib-

"The best way to hide something from Black people is to put it in a book."

LOLBBQOMGWTFUXTEETOTHEHEE!

Get your facts straight, bitch.





Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Sunday, July 03, 2005 5:27 AM on j-body.org
Dumb ass fed right into it didn't you...Thanks, now I get to point you in the right direction.

QUOTE]-The Bureau of Justice Statistics, 12 percent of all African American men between the ages of 20 and 34 are in prison, versus 1.6 percent of white men.Lets take a look at percentages here. 72% of drug users are White. 42% of Black males incarcerated in Federal prisons are there due to drug violations. Black males comprise almost 58% of those in state prisons for drug felonies; Hispanics account for 20.7%. Now lets remember that WHITES are 72% of drug users! The primary reason that Black males are imprisoned is because of Drugs....
Education





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-As the welfare rolls continue to plunge, white recipients are leaving the system much faster than black and Hispanic recipients, pushing the minority share of the caseload to the highest level on record.White, black and Hispanic recipients are all leaving welfare at unprecedented rates. But the disproportionately large exodus of whites has altered the racial balance in a program long rife with racial conflict and stereotypes, according to figures that were compiled in an analysis of recent state data by The New York Times. The legacy of those stereotypes makes the discussion of race and welfare an unusually sensitive one. In the past, advocates and scholars have taken pains to note there were more white families on welfare than black. But that is no longer the case. Blacks now outnumber whites. The Hispanic share of the rolls is growing fastest. And black and Hispanic recipients combined outnumber whites by about 2 to 1. In addition, the remaining caseload is increasingly concentrated in large cities
You would get your Stats from the NY Times study wouldn't you? Here, why not go to the source...Truth so that you can educate yourself a little better.

Your last remark shows just how much of an idiot you really are. The entirety of your post shows just how uneducated you really are. Your quoting of those statistics show how unbalanced your research into what you spew is. Wasted time on your behalf...opportunity on mine. Keep em coming there ol' boy!


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:07 AM on j-body.org
Ya because all your sources are the correct ones and all of mine have no creditability, get your head out of your ass. Theres no debating with a closed mind. Your a little colored fella in denial who just keeps saying "yo wrong imma right stoopid!!" This isn't a game I didn't "feed into" @!#$, your just another war forum twat that comes and goes and brings nothing to the table. Congrats on being a bottom feeder, now go lotion your ashy knees and elbows, have mama do your hurr, put on some hella tight FUBU and hustle some drugs to your fellow brothas and sistas. Don't worry, I'll continue to live it up in the trailer park with my NASCAR memorabilia and my food stamps.


YOU HYPOCRITICAL SOCIOPATH I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A SPEEDING BUS





Re: Racism in America...your not alone
Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:29 AM on j-body.org
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Ya because all your sources are the correct ones and all of mine have no creditability, get your head out of your ass.
See, once again you prove your stupidity. I quoted things from the EXACT same sources with the exception of a few that are really no point in mentioning. Justice Dept. Statistics is where I got mine as well as yours. Maybe if you take time to actually read thorugh the thigns that are posted instead of keeping YOUR mind closed to the facts then maybe your argument wouldn't be moot or straw.
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This isn't a game I didn't "feed into" @!#$, your just another war forum twat that comes and goes and brings nothing to the table.
I brought facts to the table to debate, you brought sarcasm and lame points. Sorry, maybe I shouldn't shoot you down so hard with proof of your ignorance.
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Your a little colored fella
As stated by many others before me, "you who turns red, blue, purple, and white have the nerve to call me colored?!?!" You're a lame.
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YOU HYPOCRITICAL SOCIOPATH I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A SPEEDING BUS
Show me hipocrisy in anything I stated thus far. You won't because I've argued with your kind and worse before on numerous occassions. I don't have to search for stats, they are imbedded. I don't have to browse the net for sources, I already know where my informaiton comes from. You need to google everything you bring to the table. Like I said...educate yourself. As far as this argument is concerned, you're no longer fun playing with...you're a sore loser. I've proven my case...you don't even have one. So yea...go back to your trailer park, enjoy your NASCAR memorabilia, and whatever else you stated you do. I won't entertain your racial epithets nor stoop to your proletarian level. The difference between you and I really is that i can debate...you argue. Arguing is based on emotion...


"Speak the truth, and leave immediately after"
"The urge to save Humanity is almost ALWAYS a false front for the urge to rule"
"He who knoweth things as they are and not as they are said or seem to be, he truly is wise, and is taught of God more than of men."
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