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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:30 PM on j-body.org
the MUSLIMS LEADEARS need to take action not take leadership to them.

the Leaders of different sects and countries need to start making a stand against terrorists that they know about or be held accountable in the future!


they need to turn over the known terrorists runners and not aid them and treat them as religious heroes, known as mujahaden!!!

Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Thursday, July 07, 2005 6:10 PM on j-body.org
The same could be said about the Catholics and N. Ireland.

or BOTH the Jews and Palesineans.


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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:02 PM on j-body.org
It sucks that the minority of people, in any group, go and screw it up for everyone else...

But just like everyone else says...the moderates need to start taking control, even though they maybe can't make an immideat noticeable difference, they should still try. It only takes one spark to start a wild fire.

It is a terrible tragedy...and my condolences to all who have lost loved ones in that terrible act of hatred and villainy.







Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Thursday, July 07, 2005 8:29 PM on j-body.org
You can't blame me...I said we will not condone another terristic attack on American soil...happened in London..not my jurisdiction, not my jurisdiction...But as the President and citizens of the U.S. we will do all we can to aid the British and send them LOTS of money!!!



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Together we can defeat the Terrorists!!!
Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Thursday, July 07, 2005 9:47 PM on j-body.org
Hmm,

Our olive-skinned buddy from upstate NY seems to believe that the Coran-Q'uran- Koran- etc. doesn't condone that behavior. Of course if I were to get a copy of said book, and point out where it does say that, he might point out that only Arabic versions are the true thing. He might not though, seeing that he hasn't gone to the local rug on the floor, bang my head on it during prayer mosque in 10 months.

Also, one interesting thing: Muslim apologists always like to hold up their fingers and remind us that the Koran is a book of peace....but fail to mention one of their other holy books the "Hadith" (believe that is the name.)

I have a book titled "Unveiling Islam" written by two Arabic men, who converted from the religion of Islam to Evangelical Christianity.

And the average Muslim DOES believe in that idotic murderous behavior. Oh, maybe not Khalid and Ahmed down at the corner store...they have it good here in America. But their oppressed and self-oppressed kin overseas just eat that stuff up. Just watch, and you'll see those people with their picnic blankets on their heads, dancing in the streets, praising that so-called prophet Muhammed (the offspring of a woman and a pig).

So, the American Muslims who go to mosque every 10 months, and spend the interim time fornicating with white girls and wearing too much Drakkar Noir, they're ok by me. They pose no threat to my health, or my way of life.

This is not a blanket statement concerning the sheep that follow the religion of Islam. This post should not be taken as a racist post, or even directed at any particular person here on the org. It was not intended as such. This post is a rant, much like the rants against Bush, Christianity, and the Bible, that are tolerated here on the org. See you in 10 days I suspect, but you have to placate the complainers don't you?

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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 6:53 AM on j-body.org
Pret: Kinda like the Christian Church is doing something about the KKK? Come on, these radicals are not operating within a church structure, and have abandoned any convention regarding normal interpretation of their holy books.

Mikey: you're starting to really get annoying. Stop the BS and post something worth reading for once, please?

Scott: It was only a matter of time...

First, Read what I said to Pretjah. Second, you can go to www.free-korran.org (I believe, if not use google). Third, Jihad against an enemy in Qur'ran is set with stringent rules, you do not attack women or children under 12, the old, or the infirmed.

IF you want to look at Christianity's great and proud tradition of "peace" I'll be glad to open up the hypocritical flood gates for you. IF you want to start in on the origins of the religion's main prophets, the virgin is looking rather pregnant... If you want to call anyone sheep, you're far from any point of having standing. Didn't Jesus say Judge not, lest ye be judged yourself?

I really liked not having to deal with your hypocrisy.

The Average muslim in the mid-east is pretty much dirt poor and barely literate to begin with. If they had a picnic blanket, I'd suspect they'd have little food to celebrate with. Put yourself in their shoes for that long, and then tell me what the average muslim wants. Revenge means less than @!#$ when you have kids that you can't provide for. Jihad doesn't fill any bellys.

Radicals are not the norm, and Muslim Clerics, Moftis etc, that are moderates (Not JUST in the west) routinely denounce the radicals in their midst. Not to put too fine a point on it, but when was the last time you attended church and the sermon was about radical Christians like those facist Nazis, or the skinheads that follow the same ideals, or the lovely promulgators of the barbeque in Waco, TX?




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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 7:34 AM on j-body.org
i know how to fix this problem..... REN says "do you see this shiny red button..... you know you want to press it..... hum i wonder what it does......you know you want to press the shinny red button..................."
stimpy says" ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh i can't take it anymore" and he presses the red button........
ren says " you idiot you press the history eraser button"

and everyone disappears


just push the button we would be better off dead

lol


sorry terror needs to be stopped..... let just nuke the middle east and turn the sand to glass so we can find the oil easier



Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 9:00 AM on j-body.org
dude sinrocker...you do realize that nuking the middle east would do ZERO as far as terror organizations.

cause you still have the balkins, indonesia, thailand, afghanistan, chechnia(sp?) and over half of africa that are still creating terrorists right. so unless you want to nuke 40% of the world and suffer from acid rain for the next 100 years. nukes aren't the answer!!
Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 9:02 AM on j-body.org
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:Pret: Kinda like the Christian Church is doing something about the KKK? C


YEAH the Christian Church has done alot against the KKK. who do you think stood up against the KKK? who do you think supported MArtin Luther King?
Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 1:23 PM on j-body.org
Pret: read the following part of my post.



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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 3:32 PM on j-body.org
GAM that's just not true....i guess the leader of that one sect in iraq last year sadr with MILLIONS of followers was operating outside of an organization.

Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Friday, July 08, 2005 7:00 PM on j-body.org
Sadr is a radical, and millions is overstated greatly. Maybe thousands is a sound guess. You're probably thinking of the Shiite (remember, they're the minority of muslims to begin with, Sunni are the majority by about a 1/3) Grand Ayatollah.

If you'll also notice, <a href="http://www.cfr.org/background/background_iraq_alsadr.php">He's been pretty quiet for the last year</a>


Food for thought: From the article,
Quote:

How big is the Mehdi Army?
It’s unclear. Sadr supporters claim it numbers 10,000 men, although some reports place the number far lower, between 1,500 and 3,000. Some experts say there are also hundreds of thousands of additional Iraqis who are “passive” Sadr supporters. They admire his outspoken opposition to the U.S. role in Iraq, respect Sadr’s heritage, and benefit from the services his social network provides, but they are not willing to stand up to the Americans on his behalf, experts say.

How widespread is Sadr’s support among Shiites?
Experts say he commands the loyalty of some 3 million to 5 million very poor Shiites across the country; his stature grows with this group after each confrontation with the United States. However, his popularity in the wider Shiite community is more limited, experts say, as mainstream Shiites see him as a young upstart who has endangered holy places for his own gain.


Seems even intel experts can't agree on his power base.

He doesn't have a large sphere of power now that his newspaper is shut down, and even if it were operative, he has been pacified by those who have greater political and religious powers than he does, and voluntarily disbanded his political group, (mahdi army). He's not part of the political process really, when he ran for Iraqi PM, he got less than 2% of the actual vote.

More information: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muqtada_al-Sadr">Wikipedia</a>




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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:21 AM on j-body.org
"Edgeware Road area is mainly an Arabic populated area, with great veg/fruit groceries, Arabic coffee houses and
restaurants, basically almost all of the businesses in that area are owned and run by Middle Easterners that live in the area which
so happens to be very heavily populated with Middle Eastern people. It was a part of my drive home from London to the A1. Great
Baklava!! WHY WOULD THEY BOMB THEMSELVES?

Just one persons travel journal on Edgeware Road and how it is called 'Little Arabia' by locals. Locals know where it is like Little
Russia, Chinatown, etc."





Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Saturday, July 09, 2005 10:27 AM on j-body.org
Phony 'Al-Qaeda' Responsibility Claim a Proven Hoax?

With regard to the so-called claim of responsibility for the London bombings from an unknown Al-Qaeda group which the British government is treating as 'serious,' MSNBC reported,

MSNBC TV translator Jacob Keryakes, who said that a copy of the message was later posted on a secular Web site, noted that the claim of responsibility contained an error in one of the Quranic verses it cited. That suggests that the claim may be phony, he said.

"This is not something al-Qaida would do," he said.

Furthermore, the website posting doesn't even claim personal responsibility, it simply references "the heroic mujahedeen" in the third person. The posting praises the attack, it doesn't even take responsibility for it.

These facts didn't stop countless newspapers and Neo-Con websites automatically assuming Al-Qaeda (or Al-CIAda) was behind the attack.






Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Saturday, July 09, 2005 11:19 AM on j-body.org
Polls showing lower approval presidential ratings and less support with the war in Iraq.
With this in mind... .
As dirty as this current administration is, I would not be surprised if this was a ploy from here so to push the remaining G8 countries to get involved in Iraq.
Since 7 of the 8 countries does not want to get involved in Iraq any ways. Here now W. has leeway to promote a joint venture in Iraq.

Politics can be very treacherous.


THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT ONE.

Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:22 PM on j-body.org
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Quote:

Polls showing lower approval presidential ratings and less support with the war in Iraq.


You truly are disturbed. Of course, Clinton had nothing to do with Oklahoma City bombings did he? Well, there was a stalled domestic terrorism bill in congress that got pushed through a few days later, but obviously coincidence. RIght?

That pendulum swings both ways, just like your chute. But if its ok to attack the president in a baseheaded and groundless manner, then why not the likes of a person like yourself?

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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:58 PM on j-body.org
Clinton didn't march the national guard into Upstate NY hunting down the rest of the Mc Veighs, and other white anti-government white-supremacist @!#$s, now did he?

Further, he didn't trot them into Oklahoma on the premonition that there were hundreds of thousands of Ryder trucks with tons of fertillizer based ammonium nitrate, now did he?

No, that was one incident.

And I'll thank you cough up a link regarding the domestic terrorism bill. The one that I suspect you're thinking of was passed in the wake of the Branch Davidian debacle in Waco TX.

It seems that you're no greater educated than when you left, can the insipid personal jabs and work on the argument, or don't post. Mr Goodwrench was posting personal ideals on the President's politics, he didn't make it personal... why don't you try doing the same? Instead of resorting to frankly childish personal jabs on someone you don't know, and who has infact, contributed a LOT to the .Org, try his argument first... you might actually get a little respect that way... Just some free advice that you actually should use.

And, Presidential approval means squat in regards to the situation with Iraq, because about 40% of the people interviewed are historically impaired, to wit, they think Iraq had something to do with planning 9/11/01 attacks.

(note: could a group of people PLEASE ask Dave.org for a Squelch All posts by User feature?)




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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:32 AM on j-body.org
lol people like mr goodwrench crack me up...

they base the administration as being "dirty" based on tinfoil hatsq consperacy theories and use that bases to create more "dirty" evidence.
Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Sunday, July 10, 2005 5:33 AM on j-body.org
lol these conspiracy theorists also crack me up because they are MORONS

one day they are saying BUSH is the biggest moron in the world and how can such a bubbling idiot be president.

the next day they have him planning top secret terrorists attacks against the US and Britain
Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Sunday, July 10, 2005 9:43 AM on j-body.org
Quote:

one day they are saying BUSH is the biggest moron in the world and how can such a bubbling idiot be president.


Because blubbering idiots elected him.

And remember, the president, while powerful, is pretty much a figurehead. He probably doesn't even know an eighth of what goes one behind the scenes.




Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:08 PM on j-body.org
As an Aside, I think it speaks volumes that Bush has more handlers than any other 20th century president... If not all others.

I think that the average person equates Bush as he, himself and the Whitehouse staff.

Nick: Where do you get the news stories... if you post, could you please link to the originating site?




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Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Monday, July 11, 2005 7:39 AM on j-body.org
London Underground Bombing 'Exercises' Took Place at Same Time as Real Attack
Culpability cover scenario echoes 9/11 wargames

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 9 2005

A consultancy agency with government and police connections was running an exercise for an unnamed company that revolved around the London Underground being bombed at the exact same times and locations as happened in real life on the morning of July 7th.

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

Peter Power was a former Scotland Yard official, working at one time with the Anti Terrorist Branch.

Power told the host that at the exact same time that the London bombings were taking place, his company was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.

The transcript is as follows.

POWER: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

HOST: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

POWER: Precisely, and it was about half past nine this morning, we planned this for a company and for obvious reasons I don't want to reveal their name but they're listening and they'll know it. And we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures to jump from slow time to quick time thinking and so on.

Click here for a clip of this dialogue. Click here for a longer clip where the comments can be heard in their full context.

The fact that the exercise mirrored the exact locations and times of the bombings is light years beyond a coincidence. Power said the drill focused around 'simultaneous bombings'. At first the bombings were thought to have been spread over an hour, but the BBC reports just today that the bombings were in fact simultaneous.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/090705bombingexercises.htm



Tony Blair will on Monday reject Conservative demands for a government inquiry into last week's London bomb attacks, insisting such a move would distract from the task of catching the perpetrators.

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/8186face-f17a-11d9-9c3e-00000e2511c8.html




Related? - "Top Bush adviser revealed as Plame source"
Get ready for the Presidential Pardon.
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/4e68d3ae-f190-11d9-9c3e-00000e2511c8.html

Also related?: http://www.radiorbit.com/audio/062005scottstevens.mp3 ?

<img src=http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/werdtexlg.gif>

Could all the c.o.n. spiracies be tied together? Tools of the times.





Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Monday, July 11, 2005 8:49 AM on j-body.org
I wish my last name was "Power."

As in, MAX POWER!

And that's the end of this chapter...




Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Monday, July 11, 2005 11:36 AM on j-body.org
ScottaWhite wrote:
You truly are disturbed. Of course, Clinton had nothing to do with Oklahoma City bombings did he? Well, there was a stalled domestic terrorism bill in congress that got pushed through a few days later, but obviously coincidence. RIght?

That pendulum swings both ways, just like your chute. But if its ok to attack the president in a baseheaded and groundless manner, then why not the likes of a person like yourself?


When you have to resolve to personal attacks instead of staying on the issue, means brains cells are working at its limits and there is no other option but the latter.
But anywho...

Swing on W's nuts all u want, but in the end this man has went through great lengths to promote on agendas that through him seems nessesary, but in the end, they are interest that will benefit only a select few groups.


Pretjah wrote:lol people like mr goodwrench crack me up...

they base the administration as being "dirty" based on tinfoil hatsq consperacy theories and use that bases to create more "dirty" evidence.


Pick up some text books in College and learn a little history and you'll be eating those words. You will learn that U.S. gov't are not the angels you like to portray. When I was in HS I used to think like you, but then I progressed on the information out there and based on conclusion from there, I just did not get stuck on the spoon fed info that gov't gives out. Then again I am not lazy when it comes to knowledge that pertains to the world as whole.

But whatever, continue on your "ignorance is bliss" theory for all I care.

BTW: TY GAM


THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT ONE.

Re: LONDON TERROR ATTACKS
Monday, July 11, 2005 1:29 PM on j-body.org
Name one administration that wasn't "dirty".



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