Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
GAM wrote:- Moral: we as a society are no better for killing someone that killed someone.
GAM wrote:- Religious: it is God's job to kill people, not ours.
GAM wrote:- Financial: the cost of the actual execution (lethal injection) will be about $45,000, it costs many millions to try, appeal, retry, re-appeal and re-retry. Many States have an automatic appeal/review by independant justices or state courts for Capital crimes.
GAM wrote:- Jeopardy: those stakes are too high, taking someone's life versus imprisonment... you can't just animate someone that got framed and was executed.
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The problem is that most of the people in prison now, are in for relatively soft offences (marijuana and other soft drugs as well as minor assault and theft charges are the lion's share), and when in an over-crowding situation, they are either faced with defending themself or taking a beating.. most will defend themselves, and earn a write up or whatever the demerit the prison's system is. Too many and you get moved to a higher security area, and by default, that's where worse offenders go. Most offenders that go INTO prison are far worse off after leaving. You want to keep the most bad people in (ie, rapists, child-molesters, murderers, violent thieves, politically connected HMO, energy & telecom white collar criminals) and the rest.. why not give a sane punishment? Jail time isn't working.... you don't warehouse 10% of the population of the nation and magically fix the crime problem. Restitution, community service and drug rehabillitation for the rest as needed.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
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I read somewhere that you *cant be tried for the same crime twice.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
Rob S wrote:Blacks are only 13% of the US population, they commit 44% of the rapes, and 54% of the murders. Blacks kill eight white people, for every white that kills a black. So if your white your EIGHT time more likely to be killed by a black, than you are to kill a black person yourself.Most homicides are intraracial URL=http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/abstract/cv03.htm]Education[/URL]
The DP isnt racist, it is just that blacks commit so much of the crimes.
Another littel bit of info 71% of the US population is white, yet they make up just 44.6% of the total murders.
So you have a small 13% that commit more murders than over 70% of the population.
Geez I wonder why there are so many blacks on death row.
Jbody2nr wrote:^^^Yes keep in mind you have to pay the executioners and stuff like that. If I had to kill people for a living I would charge out the @$$ for it.
jackalope wrote: Go to the prison in baltimore city and do a quick head count and then get back to me on percentages of violent criminals. In fact hit the prisons in most any big city across the country do the same head count and then let me know what you find. Now seeing that white people are not a minority why then is it that we are in most prisons?First of all....read the link. Education]Education
This is the reason there are less white people on death row as well. And then if you look at the minority your all refering to ( black men ) and see they are the majority of the prison population then whouldn't they also be the majority of people on death row as well? How is this racial? If more minorities commit violent crimes in the first place then its noones fault but there own. And why not fry them just as equaily? The electric
chair can not tell what color you started out but it will make everyone that comes out the same color, Charcoal black.
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Ok so why do these people deserve to live?
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Whose morals, not mine. No no no, I dont waste morals on those who have none themselves.
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Thats a chance I'm willing to take, many arent though. For every one person that was innocent there will be dozens that arent. As much as it sucks thats how I feel.
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Ok, now for the naysayers, I have a question for you. What is a good alternative as a punishment for these people besides the DP or life in prison?
AuGuStIn wrote:Who said they deserved a damn thing? Just tell me why I should support a punishment that conflicts with my morals? My beliefs in God? My religion? I thought the conservatives were hot on the respect of religious views, especially Christian views? That's a whole 'nother issue, but the Republican party is hypocritical on this issue like no other. Reason #212 why I left to be independent. And if you want to argue about that point, start another thread.
AuGuStIn wrote:Really? So you'd steal from a crook, rape a rapist, have sex with a married woman, lie to a liar? Because while you deal with those with lower morals, you lower your morals? Two wrongs make a right, right?
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Weaken our rights, and on not-so-rare occassion let an innocent be executed on all our behalf.
AuGuStIn wrote:Bring back the hard labor. What the hell was wrong with hard labor? Personally, if *I* was in prison was just given a choice...stay in the jail and wait for my butt rape or pound rocks with guys till they're too tired to butt-rape me, I'd choose pounding rocks. Sounds like a no-brainer to me. Plus, I'd actually feel like I'm paying my dues to society.
Madjack wrote:Like I said before, building an engine like ours (2.2 or 2200) is a painstaking chore , since there is so few custom made parts. It's frustrating to me too, but that's what I like about doing this engine, it's the challenge.
jackalope wrote:Sorry but a chemical inbalence is a bs defence he should have gotten the chair. If he had a known mental problem he should have either been on meds or locked away so he wasn't a danger to anyone. And since mental problems are inherited all that means is now there are 2 kids who may grow up to do the same thing. This circle should have been ended with him on the recieving end of 500,000 volts of electrisity. not be allowed to continue to another generation.
Rob S wrote:- Moral: we as a society are no better for killing someone that killed someone.
This in as opinion, not a fact.
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- Religious: it is God's job to kill people, not ours.
Well according to the lawmakers we cant use the term God or anything anymore in public places.
Plus these people take it into their own hands to kill people.
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- Financial: the cost of the actual execution (lethal injection) will be about $45,000,
LIE ALERT
http://www.tdcj.state.tx.us/stat/drowfacts.htm
Scroll down
Cost per execution for drugs used : $86.08
Looks like you were off by about $44,914, should have really looked it up. Rather than pull some figure out of your ass and make yourself look like an ass when your proved wrong.
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Jeopardy: those stakes are too high, taking someone's life versus imprisonment... you can't just animate someone that got framed and was executed.
Life without parole doesnt work, it has been proven before. Killers have been released and they just killed again. Best to just kill them and be sure they wont ever kill again.