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Please explain something to me
Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:26 PM on j-body.org
This has been bothering me for about a week now:

My truck gets 11-12 mpg, pathetic I know, but I can make a full 26 gallon tank last me 2 weeks, so I use 26 gallons every two weeks.

Now a person with a 30+ mpg vehicle has a fuel tank appx. half the size, let's say 13 gallons to make the math all nice. Now their tank only lasts them one week, so they use the same 26 gallons every two weeks.

In the end both of us are using the same amount of fuel. The end result is the same over the course of a year we're both still going to use 676 gallons of fuel. So how am I being more wasteful then someone who's more economical car uses the same amount of fuel over the same course of time.

Please help me to understand this.




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Re: Please explain something to me
Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:34 PM on j-body.org
The person in the car is either A: flooring it, jackrabbit starting, or driving with the windows down ALL THE TIME and carrying 300 pounds of extra @!#$ they don't need or, b: doing about double the mileage you are.

When I had my GAGT, I was basically pounding the snot out of it daily, and running out of gas in week, but I was doing over 450 kms a week, mostly at highway speeds, when I started to slow down... I'd get 550 easy.



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Re: Please explain something to me
Thursday, September 08, 2005 8:36 PM on j-body.org
I understand that point, what I'm trying to figure out is how being conservative with my mileage and trying to stretch a tank to last as long as possible, regardless that I drive a V-8 pick-up, when people with economy cars are using the same amount of fuel, is being wasteful




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Re: Please explain something to me
Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:43 PM on j-body.org
Well, if they're going a lot farther than you are on the same amount of fuel, it's not that wasteful is it? Commuting or delivery services or staff vehicles are small unless they have to be bigger, and they pile on the mileage.
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Re: Please explain something to me
Thursday, September 08, 2005 9:50 PM on j-body.org
your not being wasteful, but while your traveling 312 miles (12*26) every 2 weeks
a person with an econo box gets to travel 780 miles on that same 26 gallons of fuel...
so while your being conservative because you have too, a person with a 30+ car doesn't necessarily have to be





Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 6:38 AM on j-body.org
Saint wrote:This has been bothering me for about a week now:

My truck gets 11-12 mpg, pathetic I know, but I can make a full 26 gallon tank last me 2 weeks, so I use 26 gallons every two weeks.

Now a person with a 30+ mpg vehicle has a fuel tank appx. half the size, let's say 13 gallons to make the math all nice. Now their tank only lasts them one week, so they use the same 26 gallons every two weeks.

In the end both of us are using the same amount of fuel. The end result is the same over the course of a year we're both still going to use 676 gallons of fuel. So how am I being more wasteful then someone who's more economical car uses the same amount of fuel over the same course of time.

Please help me to understand this.


Not to be rude, but I hafta say bro, that's some pretty terrible math you have going.

First, where do you get your numbers? How do you conclude that someone with a 13 gallon tank would only last one week?

To expand further on the above's math...

You get 312 miles (12 mpg *26 gallons) out of a tank of fuel.
Econobox gets 390 miles (30 mpg * 13) out of the tank. This is exactly the mileage my manual cavi gets, BTW.
Take a Prius, which realistically gets 45mpg on a 10 gallon tank, it can go 450 miles on fuel.

Econoboxes not only carries less fuel, actually have a bigger range to than you to boot.





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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 8:38 AM on j-body.org
I AM BAD FOR THE EXTRA STUFF IN MY TRUNK , I HAVE ALWAYS NOTICED WHEN I CLEAN IT OUT I GET BETTER MILEAGE
Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 10:09 AM on j-body.org
NO @!#$!!!!!!



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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 10:16 AM on j-body.org
My Cav is getting in the 40 mpg range. I only fill the tank every other week. Now if I start driving like an idiot I can burn thru the tank in about 5 days. But as expensive as this stuff is I don't do that much anymore.




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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 11:23 AM on j-body.org


you get 312 mpt (miles per tank) and fill up 26 gallons every two weeks.

eco car gets 390 mpt and fills up 13 gallons every week.

ur suv 2 weeks and 26 gallons = 312 miles
eco in 2 weeks and 26 gallons = 780 miles



ur car takes 26 gallons to go 312 miles

eco car takes 10.4 gallons to go 312 miles

in one year if you consistantly drove every two weeks at 312 miles that would be a total of about 8112 annual mileage.

and it would have taken you 624 gallons of fuel to do this annually.

if you did that same mileage in a eco car

it would be 8112 annual milage.

but you would have only needed 270 gallons of fuel annually.


do u understand how insane it is to propose what you are proposing?




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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:08 PM on j-body.org
@!#$ it, everybody's looking at it from the wrong damn angle, it's not even worth trying to make a damn point.




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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:19 PM on j-body.org
lol ok man

calm down





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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:26 PM on j-body.org
I am calm, that's just how I normally talk, I just usually type nice.




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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 1:40 PM on j-body.org
Saint wrote:@!#$ it, everybody's looking at it from the wrong damn angle, it's not even worth trying to make a damn point.


What other angle?


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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 2:04 PM on j-body.org
You are over simpifying it, thats the reason.

Let's use your numbers.

You are 11mpg, 26 gallon tank used in 2 weeks.

They are 30mpg, 13 gallon tank used in 1 week.

So in 2 weeks, you drive 11m/g * 26g = 286 mi

BUT if you drove a 30 mpg car, then you can drive 30m/g*26 g = 780 mi

Now you understand? You are looking at the amount of fuel used, not the distance travelled. If I drove 1560 mi every 2 weeks so I have to fill up my econo car 4 times in 2 weeks, does that mean my 30 mpg car is twice as wasteful as 11 mpg?


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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:01 PM on j-body.org
Saint...I follow you... I was getting as frustrated reading through all these posts as you were.

They don't get where you are coming from... But I do. (I own a 1999 Suburban, and a 2001 Denali) The Denali gets about 12 mpg in the city. The Suburban gets only slightly better.

Here is the same scenario, from my perspective. I was using my WRX for work, I would run across town to deliver some printwork, then pick up supplies, sometimes, I would have to make 2 trips at 24 miles per gallon (WRX) to get all the supplies I needed. Now, with the Suburban, I make 1 trip, and consume fuel at the rate of 15 miles per gallon. I am actually using less fuel by being able to carry all my supplies.

So if a train leaves Chicago at 2:00 pm traveling at 60 miles per hour....





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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:09 PM on j-body.org
You are wrong because Rodimus says so. It's that simple.






Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:12 PM on j-body.org
BATMAN wrote:Saint...I follow you... I was getting as frustrated reading through all these posts as you were.

They don't get where you are coming from... But I do. (I own a 1999 Suburban, and a 2001 Denali) The Denali gets about 12 mpg in the city. The Suburban gets only slightly better.

Here is the same scenario, from my perspective. I was using my WRX for work, I would run across town to deliver some printwork, then pick up supplies, sometimes, I would have to make 2 trips at 24 miles per gallon (WRX) to get all the supplies I needed. Now, with the Suburban, I make 1 trip, and consume fuel at the rate of 15 miles per gallon. I am actually using less fuel by being able to carry all my supplies.

So if a train leaves Chicago at 2:00 pm traveling at 60 miles per hour....


I didn't see anything about carrying cargo and having to make more trips because of it in his post. Where is that?




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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:12 PM on j-body.org
saint i know what your are saying
guys it dont matter how far he can go, he is only using as much fuel as someone who get 30mpg and fills up once a week, THE SAME AMOUNT, even though he cant go as far




Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:18 PM on j-body.org
AGuSTiN wrote:
BATMAN wrote:Saint...I follow you... I was getting as frustrated reading through all these posts as you were.

They don't get where you are coming from... But I do. (I own a 1999 Suburban, and a 2001 Denali) The Denali gets about 12 mpg in the city. The Suburban gets only slightly better.

Here is the same scenario, from my perspective. I was using my WRX for work, I would run across town to deliver some printwork, then pick up supplies, sometimes, I would have to make 2 trips at 24 miles per gallon (WRX) to get all the supplies I needed. Now, with the Suburban, I make 1 trip, and consume fuel at the rate of 15 miles per gallon. I am actually using less fuel by being able to carry all my supplies.

So if a train leaves Chicago at 2:00 pm traveling at 60 miles per hour....


I didn't see anything about carrying cargo and having to make more trips because of it in his post. Where is that?


are you stupid? he is USING LESS GAS BY MAKING 1 TRIP THAN 2 TRIPS FROM USING HIS CAR. even though he cant go as far as an economy car he is accually using the same or less gas by only making 1 trip rather than 2. is it really that hard for people to understand



Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:21 PM on j-body.org
and what the hell does it matter if he drives as many miles as someone would with a econo-car, its his gas, hes paying for it not you, ya im pissed gas went up, as is everyone else but if he wants/needs a truck that is his choice not yours.




Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:26 PM on j-body.org
cchevyboy1986 wrote:
AGuSTiN wrote:
BATMAN wrote:Saint...I follow you... I was getting as frustrated reading through all these posts as you were.

They don't get where you are coming from... But I do. (I own a 1999 Suburban, and a 2001 Denali) The Denali gets about 12 mpg in the city. The Suburban gets only slightly better.

Here is the same scenario, from my perspective. I was using my WRX for work, I would run across town to deliver some printwork, then pick up supplies, sometimes, I would have to make 2 trips at 24 miles per gallon (WRX) to get all the supplies I needed. Now, with the Suburban, I make 1 trip, and consume fuel at the rate of 15 miles per gallon. I am actually using less fuel by being able to carry all my supplies.

So if a train leaves Chicago at 2:00 pm traveling at 60 miles per hour....


I didn't see anything about carrying cargo and having to make more trips because of it in his post. Where is that?


are you stupid? he is USING LESS GAS BY MAKING 1 TRIP THAN 2 TRIPS FROM USING HIS CAR. even though he cant go as far as an economy car he is accually using the same or less gas by only making 1 trip rather than 2. is it really that hard for people to understand


Who are you calling stupid, dipshi+? I SAID...

WHERE ** IN ** HIS ** POST ** DOES HE MAKE REFERENCE TO MAKING TRIPS AS THE REASON HE USES THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAS?


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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:31 PM on j-body.org
Quote:

In the end both of us are using the same amount of fuel. The end result is the same over the course of a year we're both still going to use 676 gallons of fuel. So how am I being more wasteful then someone who's more economical car uses the same amount of fuel over the same course of time.


You aren't driving as far as them. That's like saying I drive 55 miles everyday and need to fill up once a week where as you are driving 20 miles a day and fill up every other week. There is alot more that can be done and alot more money/gas that can be saved seeing as if you had the econocar you'd be filling up every 4 weeks for the same amount of driving. It's your money, spend it how you want. I rather enjoy not filling up for a couple weeks.


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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:33 PM on j-body.org
cchevyboy1986 wrote:and what the hell does it matter if he drives as many miles as someone would with a econo-car, its his gas, hes paying for it not you, ya im pissed gas went up, as is everyone else but if he wants/needs a truck that is his choice not yours.


Yeah what does it matter? Who the hell are you arguing with? No one is even debating whether he should get an economy car or not. Damn....


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Re: Please explain something to me
Friday, September 09, 2005 3:35 PM on j-body.org
what does it matter if he "MAKES REFERENCE TO MAKING TRIPS AS THE REASON HE USES THE SAME AMOUNT OF GAS", he is only stating that he uses the SAME AMOUNT OF GAS AS OTHERS

I dont know maybe im reading the way you wrote that the wrong way but to me it sounded like you were being a smarta$$ to to batman for him saying he can relate to saints point





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