To answer Glace: I know 2 languages with some fluency, and 2 more where I can get the job done (respectively, English, French, Gaelic, Russian). I'm pretty tolerant if someone puts forward the effort.... but again, it boils down to attitude.
Jack: I'm assuming you're talking about people that have to deal with the public, but what about if they don't have to? What if, for instance, you have a company crew of construction workers, none of them speak english (let's say for instance they speak Inuktituq, I don't think anyone here speaks that...) except for the person you do business with. What are you going to get uptight about?
As I said, I understand about the people that work with the public (that goes for born Americans as well), but getting uptight with everyone, that's just going a bit too far. More Itallians and Irish came over during the Civil war than any other time (except the 20's) and they ended up making insular communities where speaking english was the exception.. it's tha same in Jewish neighbourhoods even to this day, Most of the time you'll be served in yiddish or hebrew first.
I hear the anger of the have's (as opposed to the have-not's) in the original post... why can't people (on every side) bend a little?
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I'm a bilingual illiterate... unless you count ebonics as a second language.
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You can speak a 2nd language, but you can't read or write in any language?
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Gam, I'm not being "uptight" at all. If your gonna deal with the public you SHOULD be able to speak the language. But if not I'll just get a contrator who can.
See that was easy !
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:You can speak a 2nd language, but you can't read or write in any language?
My grandma is like that
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Jackalope wrote:Gam, I'm not being "uptight" at all. If your gonna deal with the public you SHOULD be able to speak the language. But if not I'll just get a contrator who can. See that was easy !
Agreed
I'd think that a contractor that couldn't speak the language of the land would be very short on customers though... unless they were THAT good.
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OR......that cheap !!
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okay, a few points...
Yes, John...a foreign accent on a woman is sexy as hell...and in the converse, my g/f agrees, a foreign accent on a man is sexy as well...keep in mind, She's slovak, so a pacific NW accent when speaking fracturesslovak is sexy to her
Second, Agustin: There is no american culture--you have to BE cultured first, and we're aout the furthest from being cultured or civilized.
Now, let's start on language:
Since right now I am in Slovakia, let me go on record by saying that very few people speak english, and my broken slovak won't carry me far. As such, i'm incredibly grateful for my g/f who's fluent in Slovak and English to help me translate. Some of the more popular tourist attraction places speak english--like in Kosice, or Prague, but here in Tornal'a,you either speak Slovak, or Hungarian (being that i'm about 30kms from the Hungarian border.
That being said, i don't agree with the "speak english or get out" mentality. it's more like, "speak the language of the where you are (which, in america, may very well be Spanish, or some other language), or you're screwed. Period. If you go to a small town on the border of Mexico, where everyone speaks spanish, do you reallyexpect the entuire town to bend to your will? If you do--i have some land downwind of Cheyrnobl that i'd like to sell you
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Now, that being said, I don't have any sympathy for foreigners that can't speak english, but i will help them how I can. Just like I didn't except anyone in Prague, Zvolen, Kosice, Tornal'a, or Presov to have sympathy for not being able to speak Czech or Slovak--i knew whati was getting into, but I am grateful to the ones that couldn't for trying to mime out what the meant, or those that talked throuhg my g/f and so far haven't made any "yankee capitolist pigdog" comments--esecially when they know that i'm not the stereotypical american
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So, if you can't speak the language, i'll try to helpm, but don't expect the rest of us t bend to your will--and remeber, language is a local thing--not a national thing....
Now, as it is for religion, to answer EZ--anything mentioning God or any deity whatsoever by a govermental institution violates the establishment clause--because there ae relagions out there that don't believe in gods--or "a" god for that matter.
Personally, though, I think that the #1 thing on the religion issue people need from both sides is tolerance. Whats good for the goose isn't always good for the gander, but likewise, don't expect the goose to change their ways to accomodate the gander, just as long as the goose's ways don't infringe on the gander's life.
After all, my g/f is christian, and i'm a pagan offshoot--and she's not trying to convert me, and I'm not trying to convert her...maybe because we realize that we are two different people that can never share the same life perspective as the other and thus treat religion as a personal thing.
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Wow ! keeper and I actualy agree !!
Hey look, its snowing !
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^^ What, you're in hell?
I knew you were Satan's spawn.
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MR Satin spawn to you !
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Oops, Thats was supposed to be satAn not "I"
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Satin spawn is a LITTLE more than we need to know about what goes on between you and Lucifer, Jack.
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But, But, But, Gam you were there too. And that lace looked sooo good, it matched the color of your kilt perfectly! I'd still love to know where you found that at.
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Ummm....Jack is not my son....
But if you think about it...what i said is really just common sense...
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Jack: satan bought you the teddy... I was just taking black-mail pictures...
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You mean in your kilt with your matching fish nets and lace gater belt ? I thought you were there to party as well !
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No that was a Scot.
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I guess I got in all this really late but NJHK, GAM, and "HOTL" summed up everything I wanted to say.
I think what everyone in this country needs is a little tolerance. People are just getting way too uptight about everything -language, religion, culture, etc. Its quite ridiculous and its getting out of hand, in my opinion.
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Filip (The Polish Kid) wrote:I guess I got in all this really late but NJHK, GAM, and "HOTL" summed up everything I wanted to say.
I think what everyone in this country needs is a little tolerance. People are just getting way too uptight about everything -language, religion, culture, etc. Its quite ridiculous and its getting out of hand, in my opinion.
exactly !!!
am i the only one that thought about south park when they had to visit the tolerance museum cause they called there teacher gay ?
Mr. Mackey? GAY????
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And Keeper: Aren't you Satan turned flesh?
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I just call him dad.
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Leave me out of any "Flesh Turning." I like you guys, but not like THAT.
wierdos..
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