I honestly don't see a big deal with what they did. Although I see it as sorta a symbolic gesture of trying to make a change in their life, it could hold a physical change as well. Consider this for example. Say someone is struggling with pronography and has like a Playboy magazine or something lesser that keeps tempting them. If that was laying around in their house all the time, it would continue to mess with them. So burning or throwing it away is a step towrds getting rid of that problem. Although the gesture isn't enough to fix the problem, it is a step in the right direction. Just my 2 cents.
ShiftyCav wrote:thats probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you should take that serpentine belt and wrap it around your neck.
^^^ that and i don't think charity or the library is going to accept books like playboy, hustler, swank, and dvds as in Jane Does Dallas, All Holes Filled, or No Hole too Small.
for their charity fund raiser or to be rented out to the public. so i think donating those are out of the question.... i guess except for homeless people and perhaps swinger get togethers, and to kids to take to the parties to have wild orgies or what not. yeah go ahead and donate away lol.
Lol sorry I missed their donation part of the article. Yeah for the most part, if they are getting rid of things that aren't good spiritually for themselves, why give them to others?
ShiftyCav wrote:thats probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you should take that serpentine belt and wrap it around your neck.
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how many people saw this on the news? or is it just some small town that the news had nothing else better todo that day then go watch people feel better about themselves??
Point taken.
But like I've said, it's really hard to know either way. I'm arguing the bigger issue, not just regarding these people.
When it comes down to it, whatever floats your boat, right? If it truly makes them feel better to burn their porn, then kudos to them. If it truly makes me feel better to look at my porn
, kudos to me too, right?
I think the idea is that I don't go around saying, "Hey, looking at porn makes me feel like I'm strengthing my spiritual side," or have big porn viewing parties. If I did, what would you say about that? Just kidding. You don't really care...
Speaking of which, I have some porn to go look at
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Anyway, I see all of the points you're all making. Let's just leave it at live and let live, okay?
lol agreed man. I wasn't using porn as the main point...it was just an easier to use to make a point. And like you said, everyone makes their own choices. Thanks though. Usually these kind of posts end up with people flaming like crazy, and to you I owe respect for being respectful.. Late
ShiftyCav wrote:thats probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you should take that serpentine belt and wrap it around your neck.
just for the record the video's i listed are part of my collection and no i won't be burning any of them and no i won't be donating any of them so don't ask lol
Lol the Boys and Girls foundation was looking for a few though man....
ShiftyCav wrote:thats probably the dumbest thing i have ever heard. you should take that serpentine belt and wrap it around your neck.
While I kinda see their point in doing this - I still can't help but think it is kinda overboard jesus-freaky - and I'm a Christian. Really though, all my experience with the "Assembly of God" is that they are freaks like that... and I've seen them alot worse than this little get-together though. Although I certainly can't say that for the whole denomination since my experience is somewhat limited with them - so no offense to those who are.
I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
Yeah!! What's wrong with it? I've heard of things like that plenty of times.
In fact an army buddy of mine told me that he did the same thing when he became a born again Christian. Of course he says he now misses some of the music he burned. But to them it was for a good cause and they weren't hurting anyone by doing it.
And besides who doesn't enjoy burning things?!?!?!?
myex did that.. she got rid of alot of good cd's
Strange...
Christians (or an self-proclaimed offshoot thereof) burn a bunch of books/CD's/DVD's/Magazines that contain concepts that they find, well, wrong. The worst they get is ridicule.
Try having a quasi-public burning of articles containing concepts of any Monotheism Big-3 religions that you wind wrong, and all of a sudden it becomes a hate-crime.
Either we have freedom of expression along this level or we don't. One standard is more than enough.
My point on this, Take a look at the basic concept--something that someone finds wrong is publically, or Quasi-publically burned. If the thing that is wrong being burned is something you hold dear, would you still defend them? If you're a christian defending them, could you look at yourself, and truthfully say that you would be alright with someone burning books, CD's, DVD's, and magazines that are Christian?
If so, then good. If not, yet you defend them, you're a hypocrite.
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Burning your things... IS INSANE! Doesn't anyone see that?????????? It's like when women burn their old love letters from exes before they get married. Why are they burning them? Just shred them and toss them in the garbage. Even when it's a private thing, it's WEIRD. What kind of medieval superstisious pagan ritualistic nonsense is this?
If you burn the evidence, someone with too much time on their hands can't tape it back together.
Again, its symbolic. Yes it is a barbaric form of symbolism, however, in this case, they are destroying completely with no chance of recovery those things that they feel are against their beliefs. In your example of ex-lovers, the letters are no longer needed, burning them provides a sense of release from the past.
[quote=Keeper of the Light™]Strange...
Christians (or an self-proclaimed offshoot thereof) burn a bunch of books/CD's/DVD's/Magazines that contain concepts that they find, well, wrong. The worst they get is ridicule.
Try having a quasi-public burning of articles containing concepts of any Monotheism Big-3 religions that you wind wrong, and all of a sudden it becomes a hate-crime.
Either we have freedom of expression along this level or we don't. One standard is more than enough.
My point on this, Take a look at the basic concept--something that someone finds wrong is publically, or Quasi-publically burned. If the thing that is wrong being burned is something you hold dear, would you still defend them? If you're a christian defending them, could you look at yourself, and truthfully say that you would be alright with someone burning books, CD's, DVD's, and magazines that are Christian?
If so, then good. If not, yet you defend them, you're a hypocrite.
sooo what you're saying is this is extra bad because there are going to be some hypocritical Christians on the issue?
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I'm just saying this: There is a double-standard. If someone were to do this to Christian, Islam, or Jewish stuff, as a protest against them (which is really what this is--a protest against "sinful" things), then it would be considered a hate crime.
Personally, i see it as a symbol of free speech.
But yes, this is really bad because there are some christians that will take a hypocritical stance. I don't have an issue with the act of a public burning of things like this--after all, there's nothing wrong with bonfires
. I worry that those that find this a really good and cleansing act would be the same ones that would take offense if, say, a bunch of satanists would have a bonfire of bibles--which they feel is "unclean"
I say both are acts of free speech and have to be protected. Hell, if you want to burn me in effigy go ahead--just don't get butt-hurt if i do the same to you.
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I don't really see what this has to do directly with the topic. You're kind of muddying the issue. Hypcrites are every where and in every group.
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I see it dealing with the toping in the regards that people here are more-or-less defending their actions, yet some of them i feel might possibly be the types who say they have the right, but will reneg when the tables are turned.
Just adding food for thought
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As you said KOTL - freedom of speach. But you could also say freedom of possesions - do whatever you want to them. While I consider what they are doing to be well... stupid - I don't care. Really I think they should just give the stuff to someone who wants it but whatever.
If someone wants to burn Christian stuff - that is their perogotive. I still have my Bible no matter how many they burn. Again I think it is an act of stupidity where as they could give the stuff to someone else but whatever...
If someone was burning stuff I hold sacred in a public place - well most people like that are sad attention whores but it is their right and it doesn't hurt me any. At least these people wheren't really trying to get attention - they just happened to get coverage but I don't think that is what they where looking for. Therefore these people aren't sad attention whores - just idiots. And more idiots in this world - hardly news worthy...
I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
Man, no one can do anything at all anymore pertaining to their spiritual beliefs without being judged.
Thats a shame.
Bastardking3000 wrote:As you said KOTL - freedom of speach. But you could also say freedom of possesions - do whatever you want to them. While I consider what they are doing to be well... stupid - I don't care. Really I think they should just give the stuff to someone who wants it but whatever.
If someone wants to burn Christian stuff - that is their perogotive. I still have my Bible no matter how many they burn. Again I think it is an act of stupidity where as they could give the stuff to someone else but whatever...
If someone was burning stuff I hold sacred in a public place - well most people like that are sad attention whores but it is their right and it doesn't hurt me any. At least these people wheren't really trying to get attention - they just happened to get coverage but I don't think that is what they where looking for. Therefore these people aren't sad attention whores - just idiots. And more idiots in this world - hardly news worthy...
As such, i wouldn't see you as a hypocrite. You figure, "Let the idiots be idiots." That i can respect.
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