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Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:48 AM on j-body.org
Quiklilcav wrote:
bk3k wrote:Relating the the Mayan Calendar, the end of their calendar isn't supposed to be the end of the world, its just the end of their calendar - which then starts over. Much like how 11:59PM(that's 2159 for you Taetsch) is the end of the day, but the clock just rolls over to start the next day.

LOL. DId you mean 2359?

I don't know of any place in the world that has only 22 hours in the day.
oops you're right - I screwed that one up




Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 12:19 PM on j-body.org
I like that It is a good point to say some will actually try. Since they may not fear being "put down". Thing is its just sad with the slack they can get they could really pull ahead.


The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 4:57 PM on j-body.org
bk3k wrote:It's good enough to me if they at least give it there all to succeed. I think far too many minorities don't make the full effort because they think they are doomed to failure anyways - since they think "the man is gonna hold me down." If they see Obama and think they now can actually succeed if they try(which was just as true before he got elected), then they might actually try at least. I think the only benefit minorities are gonna see out of the Obama presidency is a psychological one - but its a much needed one IMO.
I have now heard two women interviewed from Tuesday that think their bills are all of a sudden going to be paid. And yes, they were both black (obvious accent). There is a significant amount, and I'm sure it's not just in one racial group, but probably more concentrated among poor black people, who think that now things are magicly going to be better, like the handouts are going to just start coming. It's enfuriating to hear these things. It's indicative of the problem with this country. I wonder how many of them were offended at the line in Obama's speach to the effect of we can not reward the lazy. Yet we are going to if his bill passes, and at the expense of the hard working. (Now I'm sure there are those of you who disagree with me who want to jump all over this statement, thinking that I mean everyone who works hard has money, but it's not. However, the people who work hard and make a good living should not be supporting those who haven't done sh!t to better themselves or their position in life, which there are plenty.)





Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 11:31 PM on j-body.org
do you ppl @!#$ your sisters everyday, god we got some real racist rednecks on this forum





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Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Thursday, January 22, 2009 4:00 PM on j-body.org
Optimus that was the dumbest F*^*ing statement.

SO here it is SHUT THE F*(& UP




and go hump Obama's leg. Nothing racist was said. In fact we applauded the people that work and didn't dog anyone. Yet again the liberal view that the oh so poor black man should only be hailed as the unfortunate you and be sympathised with


The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Thursday, January 22, 2009 7:03 PM on j-body.org
Quiklilcav wrote:
Quote:

I have now heard two women interviewed from Tuesday that think their bills are all of a sudden going to be paid. And yes, they were both black (obvious accent). There is a significant amount, and I'm sure it's not just in one racial group, but probably more concentrated among poor black people, who think that now things are magicly going to be better, like the handouts are going to just start coming.


1. They do not think things will magicly going to get better
2. They do not think handouts are going to just start coming
3. I think you're only saying that because you think they're black IMO



Quiklilcav wrote:
Quote:

It's enfuriating to hear these things. It's indicative of the problem with this country. I wonder how many of them were offended at the line in Obama's speach to the effect of we can not reward the lazy. Yet we are going to if his bill passes, and at the expense of the hard working. (Now I'm sure there are those of you who disagree with me who want to jump all over this statement, thinking that I mean everyone who works hard has money, but it's not. However, the people who work hard and make a good living should not be supporting those who haven't done sh!t to better themselves or their position in life, which there are plenty.)


Noone got offended at Obama's line "we can not reward the lazy", those who do not work do not get anything. People who work hard and make a good living should not be supporting those who are lazy and don't want to work YES!! I agree about that ( that's why I filed for divorce to get rid of my lazy crazy Xwife)
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 12:06 AM on j-body.org
Well, our new president has been very busy in his first three days!! These are just more reasons NOT to compare him to mlk or abe. With our economy in shambles he managed to spend the MOST money on his inauguration festivities compared to any other president in the history of the USA. He also managed to overturn the bill in place keeping federal government money from going to abortion support groups which actually kill the babies and tell young girls where to go to kill the babies. Glad to here he spent no time at all setting up the path for tax money to go towards abortions rather than something useful like JOBS!!!????!!!!????!!!!]:-> ]:-> No wait there is more...he also insists that the next stimulas check go to tax payers as well as people who don't pay taxes/work!!! Now that makes sense, you don't contribute to the system but I bust my ass everyday to feed my family and both of us get checks??? That makes perfect sense! While I feel for the ones that cant work because they have a true disability, they get government assistance so no need to give them another check. I really have an issue with the drug dealers and lazy ass people already abusing the welfare system who will also benefit from Mr. Obama's package. Whats right is right people and whats wrong is WRONG!! I say stop worrying about bull@!#$ and lets do what you said you were and cut earmark spending and GET OUR @!#$ ECONOMY ROLLING!!!! @!#$ OBAMA......this is just the beginning........4 more years and many said "can't get any worse than Bush". TA DA...IT HAS!!
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 8:52 AM on j-body.org
Releasing terrorists!


at least we will have a chance to kill them this time!


Chris




"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry


Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 9:29 AM on j-body.org
spoiler wrote:
Quiklilcav wrote:
Quote:

I have now heard two women interviewed from Tuesday that think their bills are all of a sudden going to be paid. And yes, they were both black (obvious accent). There is a significant amount, and I'm sure it's not just in one racial group, but probably more concentrated among poor black people, who think that now things are magicly going to be better, like the handouts are going to just start coming.


1. They do not think things will magicly going to get better
2. They do not think handouts are going to just start coming
3. I think you're only saying that because you think they're black IMO

1. Plenty do
2. same as #1.
3. Way off base. I wish I could find the clips somewhere, but I have now heard another one with a woman who was having her car repo'd, and she ended with "what yall don't get is we gonna be rich now, cuz we got Obama". There is a real number of people in this country who think it's all just going to happen now. Mass delusion and euphoria. The unfortunate thing is that someday each one of them is going to wake up and wonder why their ship never came in.






Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:08 PM on j-body.org
Ya, just go down south.... sorry\bad to say, but I can say, first hand, that some of the stereotype's.......


are kinda true.


Chris




"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry


Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 3:47 PM on j-body.org
Rodimus Prime wrote:do you ppl @!#$ your sisters everyday, god we got some real racist rednecks on this forum



Sorry to burst your bubble but my sister is married to someone out side of my family. I live 5 miles outside of Detroit, work with (when i am working, damn lay off) and go to school with people of many ethnic backgrounds. I do not have a problem with other races, what i do have a problem with is lazy ass people that feel that they should not be required to work for what they get, feel that every problem in their life is someone elses fault, and those that try to make every issue about race even if it isnt.

I am currently laid off and due to some union rules taking a job outside of my field could potential cause me to be removed from the program. I have moved up 4 spots on the list in the past month and a half and am still only #80. I feel like a drain on the system right now (collecting unemployment) and am currently trying to transfer my apprenticeship to another local so I can get back to work. I could easily just say @!#$ it and collect my 6 months of unemployment but I am not going to be a lazy ass when I know that I may have an option to get back to work.

Rodimus, why dont you go "compulsively masturbate" to a picture of our new president.




Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 4:10 PM on j-body.org
He has.


Chris




"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry


Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Saturday, January 24, 2009 6:53 PM on j-body.org
No down here in the south ALL the Stereotypes are true and then their are the blacks that break through them.


The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:14 AM on j-body.org
Obama isn't going to do anything for black people, any more than Bush did anything for religious people. Last time I checked all Bush did was throw around a lot of talk and sign a few piddling regulations in place. Was abortion banned? Was religion allowed in government buildings? When's the last time you saw a Christmas tree in a courthouse?

Yeah yeah, Bush banned sex ed in favour of abstinence programs. Big freakin' deal. That's not a win for the Conservatives. It's a win for easily obtained online porn. I'm sure Obama will also sign some sort of totally useless job program aimed at minorities in a like-minded attempt to pretend that he's a liberal. It's just an act. Wake up.

Obama and Bush are cut from the same cloth, they just have a different fashion style to their BS. One pretended to be a traditional, religious, moral son of the South while the other pretends to be an ecological, socially conscious, ethnically diverse, liberal man of the the people. It's as real as Pamela Anderson's breasts and if ANYONE believed the spiel that these guys threw around, it just goes to show how good they are at their job of bulls**ting you.

It's like how everyone is afraid that Obama will subvert the second amendment. Firstly, if you think that the Patriot act signed in by Bush couldn't subvert the right to bear arms you're delusional. If First Amendment rights can be put aside for national security, so can your little pow-pows. The government isn't scared of you. It if decided that you were a threat, they'd take everything away right down to your slingshots and bb guns.

Hasn't anyone noticed that whether you guys get a conservative or liberal president, they're only conservative or liberal in a bad way and always seem to embody the worst habits of their "side", never using their supposed ideology to do much good? Then, when everyone gets tired of Conservative or Liberal BS and vote for the other side, the guy who comes into power never seriously undoes any of the restrictive rules that were put into place by his predecessor.

It's like I always said: Liberals have no morals, Conservatives have no ethics. Liberals want to silence you in the name of political correctness, Conservatives want to silence you in the name of patriotism. Liberals hide their cowardice behind pacifism, Conservatives hide their bloodlust behind self-defense. Liberals see a different culture and embrace it no matter how barbaric it may be, Conservatives see a different culture and look down upon it no matter sophisticated it may be. Liberals respond to a serious problem by freezing in indecision and doing nothing, Conservatives respond to a serious problem by ignoring common sense and doing anything (no matter how useless or stupid).

Do I really need to go on?

They're both the same. If you see a huge difference, it's only because you like one side sales pitch, and don't like the other. It's your personal prejudice coming into play, not the reality that the people in charge of Liberalism and Conservatism would like nothing better than to think for you.

Wisdom is being to agree with your enemy and disagree with your friend. Because it means that you're able to look past personal feelings into the logic of what's being said instead of being swayed by what you want to hear.
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Sunday, January 25, 2009 8:11 AM on j-body.org
Knoxfire wrote: Obama isn't going to do anything for black people, any more than Bush did anything for religious people. Last time I checked all Bush did was throw around a lot of talk and sign a few piddling regulations in place. Was abortion banned? Was religion allowed in government buildings? When's the last time you saw a Christmas tree in a courthouse?

It's not so much that Obama is going to do more for the black community as it is that a large number of black individuals believe he is going to make their life better magicly. He never mentioned anything to that effect during any of his campaigning, but somehow many people have just come to believe it.
Knoxfire wrote:It's like I always said: Liberals have no morals, Conservatives have no ethics. Liberals want to silence you in the name of political correctness, Conservatives want to silence you in the name of patriotism. Liberals hide their cowardice behind pacifism, Conservatives hide their bloodlust behind self-defense. Liberals see a different culture and embrace it no matter how barbaric it may be, Conservatives see a different culture and look down upon it no matter sophisticated it may be. Liberals respond to a serious problem by freezing in indecision and doing nothing, Conservatives respond to a serious problem by ignoring common sense and doing anything (no matter how useless or stupid).

Do I really need to go on?

Sorry, but that's pretty far off the mark. You have simply gone to the stereotypes that are slung from both sides, and slightly exaggerated them. Conservatives definitely have ethics, but the problem is that when a conservative has an ethics violation, their party is raked across the coals, and the word "Republican" is brought up at every opportunity. When a Democrat is caught in ethics violations, their party is never mentioned. Thank you MSM bias. As far as liberals having no morals, it's more like they think changing the morals to adapt to the modern lifestyle is better than upholding traditional morals. Conservatives believe you should stick to your beliefs, and not change them because they might be inconveinient. Liberals are not typically cowards, but they have more of a belief that we always need to wait to react, rather than to be proactive, and do something to protect ourselves. Conservatives believe we need to protect ourselves, our interests, and our allies, and we are willing to do this even if it is unpopular. And conservatives do not look down on cultures that are different, but they believe that we should stand up for those who are oppressed, even if it's in another country. However, a big difference in oppinion regarding culture lies within our own borders, and that is the notion that Liberals believe our country should adapt to those who are different, rather then the individuals adapting to our culture. The language barrier, for example. While it was never written into law, this country has always been an english-speaking country. If you want to live here, learn the language, don't complain that I don't know yours.
Knoxfire wrote:Wisdom is being to agree with your enemy and disagree with your friend. Because it means that you're able to look past personal feelings into the logic of what's being said instead of being swayed by what you want to hear.

Much of this statement makes sense, but it's where the majority of people seem to fail, yet accuse those with strong convictions of failing. I have pretty much stayed course over the years with my beliefs, and it's because they are based on factual statistics. One of my biggest frustrations is that the "conservative" leaders, for the most part, have abandonned their convictions to attempt regaining popularity. Most of the Republican party has sold out, and it's going to take the voice of the average conservative people, as a group, to get them to see it.





Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:36 PM on j-body.org
Quiklilcav wrote: a large number of black individuals believe he is going to make their life better magicly.]


Let me jump on this quote and say that there are a large number of white individuals who also believe Obama is going to make their life better magically. Not just Black individuals. Okay? and That- is all I have to say about people's opinion in general. And those who actually believe things will magically get better or with a snap of a finger are complete ignorants.
Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Sunday, January 25, 2009 3:42 PM on j-body.org
Tis True.

Chris




"An appeal to arms and the God of hosts is all that is left us. But we shall not fight our battle alone. There is a just God that presides over the destinies of nations. The battle sir, is not of the strong alone. Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."

Speech at the Second Virginia Convention at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia (23 March 1775) Patrick Henry


Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Sunday, January 25, 2009 5:28 PM on j-body.org
spoiler wrote:
Quiklilcav wrote: a large number of black individuals believe he is going to make their life better magicly.


Let me jump on this quote and say that there are a large number of white individuals who also believe Obama is going to make their life better magically. Not just Black individuals. Okay? and That- is all I have to say about people's opinion in general. And those who actually believe things will magically get better or with a snap of a finger are complete ignorants.

You missed the whole point, as usual. It was in response to a statement that Obama isn't going to do anything special for black people. My response was that there are those who think he will just because of color, but he never made any statements that should lead people to believe this. Seriously, you just love to post without really reading what you're responding to. You quote the second half of the sentence as if that was all I said. LOL. You must be practicing to go into the MSM biz.





Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Monday, January 26, 2009 10:56 AM on j-body.org
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz78T_kvqUU&feature=related




FORGET GIRLS GONE WILD WE HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING GONE WILD!

Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Monday, January 26, 2009 1:56 PM on j-body.org
Wade Jarvis wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz78T_kvqUU&feature=related

And that is NOT one of the three that I've heard, either.
I really wish I could find the one I heard Friday, because the woman could have cared less that her car was about to be reposessed, because now "we gonna be rich, cause we got Obama".






Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Monday, January 26, 2009 3:07 PM on j-body.org
Well now that I just watched that video let me throw up and just nail my head in.


The proper way of using the word seen. It is not I seen it that would be I saw it. He has seen the car is the right way to use the word. English class is Cool. By the way thats my sig

Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Monday, January 26, 2009 3:20 PM on j-body.org
Quiklilcav wrote:I really wish I could find the one I heard Friday, because the woman could have cared less that her car was about to be reposessed, because now "we gonna be rich, cause we got Obama".

Saw that one, hilarious.

Here it is:



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Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Monday, January 26, 2009 4:49 PM on j-body.org
LMAO. That's funny, but not what I'm talking about.

This was a woman that got a notice that her car was going to be reposessed, and it was in the shop. She said something to the effect of "if they want it, they can go pay the garage and take it", then went on to say that she's been poor, but now she's going to be rich because "we got Obama.". If I can find it, or the other two from inauguration day, I'll post them up.






Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:36 AM on j-body.org
Quiklilcav wrote:LMAO. That's funny, but not what I'm talking about.

This was a woman that got a notice that her car was going to be reposessed, and it was in the shop. She said something to the effect of "if they want it, they can go pay the garage and take it", then went on to say that she's been poor, but now she's going to be rich because "we got Obama.". If I can find it, or the other two from inauguration day, I'll post them up.


You just gotta give me a little info. Come on who da man?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSaEQA83nFw



FORGET GIRLS GONE WILD WE HAVE GOVERNMENT SPENDING GONE WILD!

Re: ***STOP***COMPARING OBAMA TO ABE and MLK!!!
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 4:06 PM on j-body.org
WIN! That's the one. Seriously, does she think the money is just going to start rolling in for her now?





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