I have the option to buy a 95 Cav Z24. Its got the 2.3 HO motor and an auto tranny. The paint is a rare blue color, dont know the exact name, but its a bright, kinda electric blue. Has dark tinted windows, looks sweet. Now the bad part. It needs an engine. Has an internal vaccume leak. Don't know where, how and why, but I am positive it needs a rebuild, or an entirely new motor. Will need a new front bumper cover and possibly a fender. Otherwise its not bad. I can get it for 500 bucks probably. Is it worth it? What kind of power can I expect to get out of it from basic boltons, naturally aspirated? What are my options for boost with that engine? (sorry for dumb questions, im typically a V8 guy)
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it's not an Ho. The owner is telling lies.
the 95 had a normal 2.3. 150hp 150lbs. The Ho died in 94.
An Ho could have been swap but with a MANUAL, not an auto. Ho and auto don't work together and never will. the cams are too big.
Internal vacuum leak?!?!?!?!?!? explain more cause you lost me there. Blown head gasket? damaged rings?
Gilles
2.3 Ho
gilles is right, hes lying to you , a 95 didnt come with a HO it cam with a LO and a HO never worked with a auto...he probably stuck the HO cover on the engine or some crap and if you really wanted to call him on it you could take the cover off and look at the head casting that would probably tell it all right there.
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he never told me it was an ho, i just assumed. and I never looked at the engine close enough to see what the cover said on it. but does anyone want to answer any of my questions?
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I don't exactly know whats wrong with the engine. thats what he told me. But I know it was beat on. This car was on its second motor.
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ok sorry...to answer your questions ...no i dont think it would be worth it...
1. its an auto so your not gonna get much outta that engine with that tranny..2 its got a obd 2 ecu so no advantage there..now if it was a 95z24 MANUAL it would be lots worth it cus u would have a completly different platform to work with....my advice..if your looking for something to work on performance wise stay away from it and wait for something better...IMO
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like stated before the 95 auto isnt quite a hot buy.. the 95 z24 manual is though. the 2.3 ho and w41 are 180 HP and 190 HP when equipped with a 086 casting head. boosted these cars are animals. a n/a ho equipped cav is in mid 14s without too much hassle. fiero guys use this motor a bunch too. basically buy it if you plan to trans swap and swap back to odb1, otherwise might not be worth it.
Sven you totally quarterloafed your computer..
Jrobz23 wrote:like stated before the 95 auto isnt quite a hot buy.. the 95 z24 manual is though. the 2.3 ho and w41 are 180 HP and 190 HP when equipped with a 086 casting head. boosted these cars are animals. a n/a ho equipped cav is in mid 14s without too much hassle. fiero guys use this motor a bunch too. basically buy it if you plan to trans swap and swap back to odb1, otherwise might not be worth it.
you really don't want to boost an HO or W41, the compression is too high, cam profiles are too aggressive for a turbo setup. if you decide to boost a Quad 4, it's best to go with the LO, but not a 1995 LO because they just suck. The blocks are god awful. If you go with an HO, just run all motor. It doesn't take a lot to make 225 whp out of those motors.
I was a retard, and now I'm permanently banned.
Ho turbo here with the Ho cams and 086 head. The ho cams are fine for boost. You can run boost with 10:1 without problem. We just run less boost but we get a mad response. I have boost @ 1500rpm with a 9.63:1 compression ratio and it's a beast. I'd rather be at 10:1 compared to 9:1 if you still want to run 5-6psi.
Gilles
2.3 Ho
well thanks for the answers guys. I'm really not looking for a mean street machine, thats what my 5.0 is for
I just want something that will have a little zip to it. 200hp may be a nice goal to acheive, but what can I expect to find for basic boltons for that 2.3? If the motor is in fact junk, what can I do about engine swaps for maybe a 2.4? Is that auto tranny compatible? I don't want to go through the hassle of converting to manual unless its easier then I think and parts for it are easy to find.
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I'm curious about the engine/5-speed swap also. This is the car that I just bought for my daily/winter driver.
'95 Black Z24 - Stock with airbox removed
'99 Black GTP - CTPT61 @16psi, I/C, 94 oct, W/Meth,
TC, S/kit, 3.29, Cut-out, Cat Back, Magnaflow's,
GR2's, Eibach's, GMMP FSB, FBod Brakes, Cer Pads,
SS lines, C/D Discs, 17" Comp G's
12.63@118mph on Comp TA's!
5speed swap? two words...expensive and extensive..not someone thats " new to the game" wants to attempt...trust me
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one question, what if on a w41 or a 2.3 hot i wanted to run more boost, say 10-14lbs of boost could it take that ??? and ifso then would it be possible to hit it with like a 50 or 100 shoot of noz is this possible, on this block witht he 086 heads and the w41 cams if so any suggestions on setup options,
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If you go with an HO, just run all motor. It doesn't take a lot to make 225 whp out of those motors.
in terms of what do i have to do to get 225whp out of this engine ??? parts ??? what ??? pls inform thanks
if you want to run higher boost your best bet is to use a "dished" piston instead of a stock one...drop the compression a bit and it can handle it fine ..if you dont drop it i believe you may come across issues with how much boost you use..as faar as nitrous i know quite a few guys that run nitrous in their quads..but...im gonna give you the best advice anyone can right now...if you REALLY wanna read up on your quad engines go to
www.quad4forums.com thatll be your best source to answer alllll your questions...guys with quads on jbo are kinda limited , with gilles and my self probably being your best sources...try quad4forums and let us know if you cant find what your looking for
"Freedom 'ought to have its limits"-George W. Bush may 31 1999 (who voted for this idiot?)
BadAss88GT wrote:.... If the motor is in fact junk, what can I do about engine swaps for maybe a 2.4? Is that auto tranny compatible? ....
If the motor is junk, I personaly would get an older low output motor from 92-94. All you would have to do is swap the 95 INTAKE CAM AND HOUSING over to the older one. That way you keep the cam sensor (needed for the computer) and the stock power steering setup. Everything else should bolt up, except maybe the exhaust manifold. That item depends on the head casting of the new motor. Swap in an older HO (90-92) exhaust manifold and make a down pipe and you would be all set and get a little more power too.
The older LO motors have 9.5:1 compression, slightly more agressive cams and no balance shafts. 15 or so pounds off the rotating mass and no crappy oil pump. Wont be 200 hp, but could be 160-165 hp at the flywheel.
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scott trent wrote:5speed swap? two words...expensive and extensive..not someone thats " new to the game" wants to attempt...trust me
By no means am I "new to this game", I was just wondering what was involved, and headaches guys have had from doing this before. There is a scrapyard near by that always have a few j-bodies around, and for the right price, and if I blow my 250k motor, I may just as well do the swap if it's easy enough.
'95 Black Z24 - Stock with airbox removed
'99 Black GTP - CTPT61 @16psi, I/C, 94 oct, W/Meth,
TC, S/kit, 3.29, Cut-out, Cat Back, Magnaflow's,
GR2's, Eibach's, GMMP FSB, FBod Brakes, Cer Pads,
SS lines, C/D Discs, 17" Comp G's
12.63@118mph on Comp TA's!
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By no means am I "new to this game",
sorry about that..i guess its your sig , i thought you had typed it out though, i appolagize
"Freedom 'ought to have its limits"-George W. Bush may 31 1999 (who voted for this idiot?)
Yeah no worries! I see how you got confused.
However, I am a newbie (and a newfie...don't get them confused!) to the Cavalier and what can be done with them.
I just changed my signature to what I had over at OQCGP so ppl don't get it mixed up anymore!
'95 Black Z24 - Stock with airbox removed
'99 Black GTP - CTPT61 @16psi, I/C, 94 oct, W/Meth,
TC, S/kit, 3.29, Cut-out, Cat Back, Magnaflow's,
GR2's, Eibach's, GMMP FSB, FBod Brakes, Cer Pads,
SS lines, C/D Discs, 17" Comp G's
12.63@118mph on Comp TA's!
Yeah no worries! I see how you got confused.
However, I am a newbie (and a newfie...don't get them confused!) to the Cavalier and what can be done with them.
I just changed my signature to what I had over at OQCGP so ppl don't get it mixed up anymore!
'95 Black Z24 - Stock with airbox removed
'99 Black GTP - CTPT61 @16psi, I/C, 94 oct, W/Meth,
TC, S/kit, 3.29, Cut-out, Cat Back, Magnaflow's,
GR2's, Eibach's, GMMP FSB, FBod Brakes, Cer Pads,
SS lines, C/D Discs, 17" Comp G's
12.63@118mph on Comp TA's!
