KG wrote:Joe Schulte wrote:One thing, drum brakes still?
@!#$ it's 2011.
hahahaha Isn't that the truth. Cmon people, we put a man on the moon 42 years ago. Here's proof:
freelancer1988 wrote:It's not too bad I guess... The front end reminds me of a lancer, but not as aggressive looking. The interior has a Nissan feel to it. Kinda like a 370z and altima mix. I am not saying anything bad about the car, but it seems like something that a Japanese automaker would release. Kinda missing that American built quality I guess. lol. Idunno. I'm done with my .02 cents.
the Jew wrote:KG wrote:Joe Schulte wrote:One thing, drum brakes still?
@!#$ it's 2011.
hahahaha Isn't that the truth. Cmon people, we put a man on the moon 42 years ago. Here's proof:
newt wrote:what the Cobalt TC guys can do with just a tune, I can see 200-250whp Sonics running around once these hit the streets. That should make for a very fun little car.I have to disagree here. The LNF can make easy power to an extent because of the direct injection, and the amazing stock fuel system. No other car I've ever seen or heard of can just about double it's factory rated horsepower on a stock fuel system down to the injectors.
Jookycola wrote:So this would basically rape a Cruze performance wise. Why even have a Cruze then?
Brocklanders wrote:I'm gonna just say it.... I Like it!
6 speed with the title turbo motor sounds like fun, Torsion beam rear suspension is a let down though Pricing determines a lot here.
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:I bet the topped out model sqeakes above 20k dollars, and i bet it weighs in north of 3000lbs. Fail. Agreed on the rear drum brakes. Fail again. Changing the name of what is very obviously a similar if not the same car - Fail yet again. Turbocharged four cylinder that makes less than 100hp/liter - guess what...fail again.
I'm not sure which is the worst, but i'm leaning towards the engine. Everyone else is making almost 100hp/liter naturally freaking aspirated.
With this car, it looks like someone from the 1980's took a sh!t and wrapped it in some fancy wrapping paper.
oldskool (eco meatcake) wrote:newt wrote:what the Cobalt TC guys can do with just a tune, I can see 200-250whp Sonics running around once these hit the streets. That should make for a very fun little car.I have to disagree here. The LNF can make easy power to an extent because of the direct injection, and the amazing stock fuel system. No other car I've ever seen or heard of can just about double it's factory rated horsepower on a stock fuel system down to the injectors.
For 1.4t to do what you are saying, injectors would need to be upgraded, and extensive tuning would be required. I don't expect HPtuners to pick up these platforms on the forefront (in fact i would bet large sums of money on it), so tuning would be relegated to mail order or remote tuning. Also, since the turbo is "intergrated" into the exhaust manifold, you are looking at a bigger expense, and more R&D to upgrade the turbo.
I hope I'm wrong, but almost everything about this car screams fail to me.
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It's been a busy few weeks here at Trifecta! We purchased a Chevy Cruze LTZ a few weeks ago, and as you might expect it didn't stay stock for too long. We've been busy tuning and tweaking and managed to get a gain of about 36HP and 54TQ on an otherwise completely stock vehicle. This is a 31% gain in HP and 38% gain in torque! Check out the dyno section for the official dyno sheet! We are setting the retail price on our Cruze tune at $350, and will be offering the tune for $300 for the rest of the year as an introductory offer
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We will post up dynos as we release parts.
Torque gains were higher than that. I think I have seen over 210 ft lbs now.
I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
Evol...??? wrote:mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
Drum breaks?
Last i remember, a break is something you get at work to eat lunch. Brakes are things on cars that make you stop.
just sayin'.
LOL
mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
Dave Z wrote:mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
This.
Kids these days...
I drive a silver car wrote:Dave Z wrote:mitdr774 wrote:I drive a silver car wrote:First thing I saw that pissed me off to was drum brakes and then twist beam rear axle. Some things should have been phased out some time ago.
Its a cheap car, what did you expect?
Drum breaks and a twist beam axle do not bother me in any way. Maybe on an all out performance car but not on a bottom barrel car. Discs and independent suspension add cost, weight, complexity, and potential problems.
This.
Kids these days...
No this is still ridiculous cheap car or not. There are plenty of cheap cars out that there that come IRS and rear disks. Your using this as a cop out. IMO drums are a thing of the past and can't be that much less to manufacture of disks it's not like they need to design them they have them on many small GM cars period. Get with the times and be competitive.