Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Right now Obama was well received in Europe, the stock market has been receiving higher stock points the last 2 weeks, housing sales started to very slightly move up in some areas, yet how many threads have we seen on these good traits?
Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth reading
J03Y wrote:Seriously Joey, Rodimus posts that incredibly ironic line, and that response is the best you can come up with? I expected more from you...Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth readingsays the guy who I haven't seen provide an actual rational thought or fact in any post he's ever made. go figure.
Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth reading
sndsgood wrote:i find it pretty comical. bush got bashed and blamed for the sinking econemy that clinton left him and people on here were blaming bush for that on day one. now obama is getting bashed on his day one. does anyone see a path.
OHV notec wrote:J03Y wrote:Seriously Joey, Rodimus posts that incredibly ironic line, and that response is the best you can come up with? I expected more from you...Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth readingsays the guy who I haven't seen provide an actual rational thought or fact in any post he's ever made. go figure.
Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth reading
(tabs) wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:the intelligence of the right wingers on here makes it not even worth reading
says the guy who claims our current recession is just a conspiracy theory for companies to lay off workers they dont like.....and who also thinks that his job as a cell phone salesman is recession-proof
but all joking aside--with the exception of one or two people, the "right wingers" have presented logical arguments for their positions, backed by factual information, news links, etc. if intelligence needs to be called into question, its the "left wingers" that should be checked. you know...the ones that say "just give obama a chance!" but cant give any reason why they support printing a TRILLION dollars in money, or why obama's budget projection (also in the TRILLIONS) is an okay idea, or how they can blindly turn an eye to the freedoms that this young administration are taking away, yet in the same breath lambast bush for the patriot act.
the problem is that these people (and the millions of easily influenced) just hated bush so much that they are willing to accept ANYTHING in his stead, even if it is obviously a wolf in sheep's clothing. its sad...
EcoMark wrote: You gotta spend money to make money.
Viper98912 wrote:Ever since the presidential election of Obama, it seems like the war forum has turned into a forum mostly based on Obama/democrat/government bashing. I'm not sure if it's just the same posters over and over again, with limited other viewers replying.
The President at the time and the party they are from especially if that party is the majority in congress are going to shoulder the majority of the critisim since they are the ones being scrutenized the most. This axe swings both ways. There is also tremendous concern over the country growing debt and the Presidents continued proposed spending.
Do these post have relevance? Or are some of the posters just sore losers that they have lost the legislative and executive branches?
I think many of them do have relevance. I can only speak for my motivation which is not to bash but to open peoples eyes.
Do many of the posts realize these losses, along with membership losses in the republican party, are due to the fact of bad leadership in the last few years?
I have yet to see anyone who disagrees with that.
Are some of these posters sore losers at the fact that based on presidential history, there is a good chance that Obama will be relected and that these people won't have a voice until the 2016 election?
Once again I think it is more about opening others eyes to what is going on than being a sore looser.
Are some of these posters, and republicans on the talk shows, ever going to give this guy a chance? You had your 8 years, give him a little more respect than just 2.5 months?
This comment here just makes me sick. A) They have blasted republicans MANY times before. B) From the very little bit of talk radio I do listen to, they are criticising specific actions he has taken or plans he has announced. Instant Example: The tax dodgers he wanted to appoint.
Discuss.
EcoMark wrote:From what I've learned from multiple forums, right wing republicans love to bitch and whine when @!#$ doesn't go their way. We have had a crumby last 8 years and from what I can tell, Obama is making more progress than bush ever did. You can't expect our economy to just fix itself overnight. You gotta spend money to make money. He hasn't been in office for 3 months. Give it some time.
Quiklilcav wrote:Don't confuse bitching with debating, and attempting to educate others
Viper98912 wrote:The debt: IMO after studying some economics, I find the debt debate to be a joke. If you truly think about it, we are never going to pay our national debt. Nor would we be any different if we had no debt. The debt is not that we owe money and bla bla bla bla bla, the purpose of the debt is just that other countries hold some leverage on us. China doesn't care that they hold some of our debt in the interest of money. Their interest is that they have some leverage on us for negotiation. All this debt crap is stupid - what makes a difference is what your deficit is (in vs. out) and that is the true factor on what is good/bad with your economy.
To the one that said our money is worthless: I'm sorry, but go anywhere in the world and flash American green, and they'll take it. Sure, it might not be as powerful as the Euro or the Pound, but it sure as hell has value. If not, we wouldn't be here. Oh, and about "being broke". The US is not "broke". What the hell does broke mean anyway when talking about a country? "Broke" was Germany after world war II.
Viper98912 wrote:Using taxpayer money to help these lame corporations: Personally, I hate it. I prefer to let some of these corporations die because they don't deserve to be here if you're that stupid. Throw the execs in jail for all I care for being stupid, and then trying to weasel out of it. But, some of these are so intertwined in the economy as a whole that a crash of them would cause a major disruption. Doing this would cause some real hard times, but then we'd be in the better in the long run. But then again comes to the first of two ideas: do you stay out of it, or do you try to do something now, to limp along and get somewhere, vs. being in ICU for a long while till it's better.
Viper98912 wrote:I'm sure that Obama has many people that don't like him. But I think many people realize that he has to take some drastic measures if we want him to do something now. Which is why I think people are putting up with the current measures for now. The current overall public view seems to be one of caution for Obama, while holding optimism that he is doing the right thing. At the end of Bush's term, there was a widespread overall view that people wanted him out already. A majority of the country had an unfavorable view towards him. The current "tea parties" and other crap that's going on also seems to be over-dramaticized by the media, regardless that R's for many years have blamed the media on being too liberal.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:
Quiklilcav wrote:Don't confuse bitching with debating, and attempting to educate others
And this line was over the top hilarious. Totally deserves a:
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Vid:
http://abcnews.go.com/video/playerIndex?id=7328664
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Oh-oh-oh since I don't give $hit on a respond to this, because I won't understand it, as this mostly to piss you off.