Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:LOL, well you aren't Black, Asian, or Oceanic, and Hispanic is more of an ethnicity than a Race (at least in scientific terms)...
My Hispanic friends throw fits when I tell them they are white
RuggedZ wrote:^ supposedly they're marketed toward children. its just another bull@!#$ way to @!#$ over the american public, and one step closer to becoming a nation where its illegal to smoke.
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Let's consider this for one second:
Flavored tobacco products are banned because the evil tobacco companies are supposedly marketing them to attract children. This is bad.
However, flavored condoms are OK, and more importantly, condoms in general should be given out to children for free, because teaching them to abstain at young ages would be ludicrous. And then when kids do get pregnant, because they obviously missed the condom hand-outs, they should be allowed to walk into a clinic and get an abortion without their parents being told, even though a minor can't get a tattoo or piercing without a parent or legal guardian.
When is our country as a whole going to start waking up to the utter stupidity of the big picture?
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Let's consider this for one second:
Flavored tobacco products are banned because the evil tobacco companies are supposedly marketing them to attract children. This is bad.
However, flavored condoms are OK, and more importantly, condoms in general should be given out to children for free, because teaching them to abstain at young ages would be ludicrous. And then when kids do get pregnant, because they obviously missed the condom hand-outs, they should be allowed to walk into a clinic and get an abortion without their parents being told, even though a minor can't get a tattoo or piercing without a parent or legal guardian.
When is our country as a whole going to start waking up to the utter stupidity of the big picture?
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:
Flavored tobacco products are banned because the evil tobacco companies are supposedly marketing them to attract children. This is bad.
The the bold is indeed a fact.
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The rest are just extreme views trying to stick to the wall.
You can teach abstain or scare kids that sex before marriage will lead you to sit next the devil when you die. But in the end, you are teaching/telling them to go against on issues that are innate in human nature or the mammal species for the matter.
Having flavor condoms is indeed ok, simply because many teaching (religious especially) say that sex is considered if going to vaginal penetration. Now failing to teach on the implications of oral sex to kids instead (again because of innate mammal sexual nature) now it can result in the practice of such. You might say so what as no procreation occurs? But but now you run the risk of STD... this is where flavored condoms comes in to prevent it. Yea, nobody would like to see their little daughter with that image, but I'm willing to bet nobody will like to see their little girl with blisters all over their mouth or worse, known to have contracted HIV.
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Now on the issue of banning.
I think it is a bad/good idea. Bad because of the business case on loosing more revenue for the company and government-- those with high tobacco tax rate. And well, people might smoke less so there might be people living longer (overpopulation) lol. The good, people will live longer and may drive health care costs lower. But I say if you want to have a slow death go for it, who is anyone to stop you. And that especially goes with Jeb Bush's & Tery Shiavo's case where government was trying to keep her alive.
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How? How is it that the past few years of my life I have never seen ONE commercial for cigarettes? They don't advertise them during sunday cartoons anymore. I don't see Joe Camel popping up in any nickelodeon magazines, exactly how are they getting out to these small children?
Oh wait, I know...
SOMEONE ELSE IS INFLUENCING THEM! Oh, what a novel idea! Mom smokes, dad smokes, I wonder what would happen if I steal one and go smoke it outside the shed?
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Why didn't we have these problems 10-15 years ago? It's not because human nature is making these kids suck each other off, it's because sex and everything that comes with it IS being marketed to children and they're learning about/glorifying these things at a younger and younger age.
"How am I supposed to sell sex to little girls if you don't wear the purity rings!? When little girl's ginies tickle, I MAKE MONEY!!"
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I can see your point, and yes it would make for a healthier population if they all-out banned cigs. But the bigger question is where does that power stop? If they ban cigs, certainly they have to ban pop and any other unhealthy foods, because eating at McDonalds every day will kill you faster than a few cigs a day. It all falls on personal responsibility, and it seems like the govt is trying to take that important lesson away from the general population: If you do stupid @!#$, it'll catch up with you in the long run.
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:on an aside, what are you guys paying per pack of djarums?
BlackEco wrote:Looks like the mob just picked up another product line! Bet nobody is complaining there. Did they ban Hookah tobacco also? I heard that stuff turns you into a terrorist!
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:OK, so you are saying that the left hasn't been pushing for years to give out condoms to teenagers, or put condom dispensers in schools? Are you trying to say that they haven't been constantly arguing the point that teens should be able to have an abortion without parental permission or notification?Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Let's consider this for one second:
Flavored tobacco products are banned because the evil tobacco companies are supposedly marketing them to attract children. This is bad.
However, flavored condoms are OK, and more importantly, condoms in general should be given out to children for free, because teaching them to abstain at young ages would be ludicrous. And then when kids do get pregnant, because they obviously missed the condom hand-outs, they should be allowed to walk into a clinic and get an abortion without their parents being told, even though a minor can't get a tattoo or piercing without a parent or legal guardian.
When is our country as a whole going to start waking up to the utter stupidity of the big picture?
The the bold is indeed a fact. The rest are just extreme views trying to stick to the wall.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:You can teach abstain or scare kids that sex before marriage will lead you to sit next the devil when you die. But in the end, you are teaching/telling them to go against on issues that are innate in human nature or the mammal species for the matter.After getting through the catastrophically ill-constructed sentences, one can get the gist of what it seems you are trying to convey is that one; (falling in line with the left wing beliefs that everyone should just forget about deterring the behavior and just make it safer) the condoms are OK because it's just scare tactics if you try to teach teens to not have sex, and two; that it's just a natural instinct, so there's no reason to teach moral values.
Having flavor condoms is indeed ok, simply because many teaching (religious especially) say that sex is considered if going to vaginal penetration. Now failing to teach on the implications of oral sex to kids instead (again because of innate mammal sexual nature) now it can result in the practice of such. You might say so what as no procreation occurs? But but now you run the risk of STD... this is where flavored condoms comes in to prevent it. Yea, nobody would like to see their little daughter with that image, but I'm willing to bet nobody will like to see their little girl with blisters all over their mouth or worse, known to have contracted HIV. Now on the abortion with parent's consent, that is just personal opinion, personally I would rather her have it done at free will so it will not ruin her for the rest of her life, just because nobody is perfect and everyone makes mistakes (more-so when young) and hope she learned her lesson. All a parent can really do is teach and just hope they've listened to prevent an abortion.
sndsgood wrote:i just want to know how quick knows condoms are flavored?????? what have you been eating my man?LOL. You've never noticed all the specialties you can buy when purchasing them? I personally haven't tried any of them, but if you have ever bought condoms, the flavored ones are usually right there and easily spotted.
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:OK, so you are saying that the left hasn't been pushing for years to give out condoms to teenagers, or put condom dispensers in schools? Are you trying to say that they haven't been constantly arguing the point that teens should be able to have an abortion without parental permission or notification?Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote:Let's consider this for one second:
Flavored tobacco products are banned because the evil tobacco companies are supposedly marketing them to attract children. This is bad.
However, flavored condoms are OK, and more importantly, condoms in general should be given out to children for free, because teaching them to abstain at young ages would be ludicrous. And then when kids do get pregnant, because they obviously missed the condom hand-outs, they should be allowed to walk into a clinic and get an abortion without their parents being told, even though a minor can't get a tattoo or piercing without a parent or legal guardian.
When is our country as a whole going to start waking up to the utter stupidity of the big picture?
The the bold is indeed a fact. The rest are just extreme views trying to stick to the wall.
I'm really interested to hear which part of this statement you can actually dispel as an "extreme view trying to stick to the wall". This should be interesting.
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you are trying to convey is that one; (falling in line with the left wing beliefs that everyone should just forget about deterring the behavior and just make it safer) the condoms are OK because it's just scare tactics if you try to teach teens to not have sex, and two; that it's just a natural instinct, so there's no reason to teach moral values.
Quote:It is a personal opinion. I don't need to read more extreme views on big brother. And parents they have a say, but that's all it is, words (what it should be IMO). It is not the father or mother having the child, it is her. And much how by the time she is 18 and her parents do not have to legally pay for her anymore, many times the the 18 year old is by herself, in a tough environment only made tougher because she has a child. Now she is living a predicament because of her past mistake.
As for the free teen abortion without parents consent being a personal opinion, are you arguing that the parents who are raising that teen don't have the right to make that choice of what's right and wrong? When you talk about free choice, you also have to include the rights of the parent or legal guardian to teach the child morals, unless, of course, you believe that it's all up to Big Brother,and parents shouldn't really have a say. Another question I'd like to hear an argument for is this: why should the tax dollars of millions of people be going toward getting someone out of a mistake, when they don't even agree with the morality of the procedure in the first place?
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What I will say on this entire subject is that, once again, too many people in our society are just taking the easy way out.
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This is where the left gets the fuel for their fire in vilifying anything. They just start throwing around the tag lines such as "evil corporate greed" and "big tobacco", and "taking advantage of children" etc. etc., and they get people to jump on board in droves without considering what it is they are actually doing.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:...and if it were not government implementing regulations, we would be driving "fold up in a crash" cars, die from untested medicine, and get sick off of meats/food we eat. And yes, some businesses would practice this all in the name getting the mighty dollar.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:...I don't know...First honest thing I've read in your posts yet.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:The American way has been hard work and ingenuity. Yeah, there were years where wrong was done on the issue of slavery, but it doesn't cloud the fact that we have been, up until the past 20+ years, a country of people willing to work hard for things. However, we have become an entire fast-food, instant gratification society, where the majority of people are looking for an excuse for everything, and a good life for little work. This is a fairly recent thing in our history, it is not where we came from.Quote:
What I will say on this entire subject is that, once again, too many people in our society are just taking the easy way out.
That's the American way and history proves that. Hey why did we bring over the blacks over to this nation? I can tell you it wasn't for a cup of tea.
Bill Hahn Jr. wrote:Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:...and if it were not government implementing regulations, we would be driving "fold up in a crash" cars, die from untested medicine, and get sick off of meats/food we eat. And yes, some businesses would practice this all in the name getting the mighty dollar.
Wow! Did you see the video of the recent crash testing between a '58 Chevy and a new Malibu? I will never again believe those old behemoths were somehow "safer" due to sheer bulk. The Malibu OWNED the heavier 50-year old dinosaur, whose crushed cabin became a complete death-cell.
Amazing test, great demo of how much safer today's cars are. In a nation where auto accidents remain one of the largest killers, I'm pleased we've made such strides. Imagine the carnage if we had not!
Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote: the ones who don't get it very often are the ones who consider it "getting lucky" and feel the need to talk big about their so-called sex life. The rest of us feel no need to make a big thing about it.
Mr.Goodwrench-G.T. wrote:Greedy Capitalist Pig wrote: the ones who don't get it very often are the ones who consider it "getting lucky" and feel the need to talk big about their so-called sex life. The rest of us feel no need to make a big thing about it.
Coming from a person that solely believes in abstinence, your sentence doesn't quite have to much validity now does it?
Shake it easy. lol