i have a 96 pontiac sunfire and I have been planning to replace my 2.2L ohv with one with lower miles. Will the 2.2L (2200) bolt right up in its place? or will i have to change some things. And will the 3 speed transmission bolt up to it.

should be the same, but wait just incase for a better answer.

Sorry to bring this back up but will this work? I have a dead 96 cavi and can get a low mile 2200 for $135, just dont know if it will swap with out a bunch of work. I know the fi is diffrent, thats all im concerned about.

Yes you can put a 2200 in a 2.2 car. The only things you will run into is the injector harness's are different. You need a 2200 injector harness and then hard wire it into the 2.2 harness. Truly this is not hard. Also some of the sensor's are in different locations. Coil pack mainly. There is plenty of wire inthe harness to reach. I have done this swap and the car still runs everyday.



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there has to be more to it then that john

the DIS module is run differently, IIRC.

^^ what about mounts? the engine seems to sit a little closer to the front of the car since the intake manifold is significantly bigger.

stevefire wrote:there has to be more to it then that john

the DIS module is run differently, IIRC.

No there is not. The DIS module?? You referring to the coil packs? There are in different locations, but same connections. Also the EVAP lines are ran slightly different, but they will swap.



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Orlandomon wrote:^^ what about mounts? the engine seems to sit a little closer to the front of the car since the intake manifold is significantly bigger.

the mounts from 95-02 (2.2L, 2.4L & 2200) are all the fawking same! there is NO damn differences!



and if you really really wanted too, you can swap out heads from 95-97 2.2L for 2200's! (its been done before).

Case closed on the mounts!

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I've seen a 97 cavalier LS with a 2200... I figured somebody swaped it in.

SundayNight PegCity wrote:I've seen a 97 cavalier LS with a 2200... I figured somebody swaped it in.

that is true


95-97 had 2.2's, 98-02 had 2200's!

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so putting a 2000 2200 in my 95 with 2.2 can be done then right, this is for a race car so all the emissions and evap dont really matter but what do i need to hook up the in jectoprs? harness from the 95 or the 2200

I KEEP BREAKING wrote:so putting a 2000 2200 in my 95 with 2.2 can be done then right, this is for a race car so all the emissions and evap dont really matter but what do i need to hook up the in jectoprs? harness from the 95 or the 2200

Hmmmm... I wonder if you can put it in a 95, which would be OBD1. But I dont know if that matters...

Hmmmm... I wonder if you can put it in a 95, which would be OBD1. But I dont know if that matters...
Yea you know I WONDER IF IT MATTERS GUESS IF I KNEW THAT F***ING answer I WOULDNT BE ASKING ON HERE. now would i you know just so you know the car is 95 obd 1 and i just pulled a 96 engine wow thats obd 2 so wtf is the problem with people asking ?'s you know i was told once there are no stupid ?'s if you dont ask you dont know, so again will the 2000 2200 engine fit in my 95 without using the newer computer and harness?

Sure looks like it its in the car now just too hook upo the wiring any help with the injectors would be great.

No.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

i have a completle engien wiring harness from a 99 220 with 3 spd with ecm and everything if you need it

okay think i figured it out I have the harness from the 2000 with the 2200 but am using my 95 harness just have too change a few connectors and a couple of sensors dont get hooked up;

I KEEP BREAKING wrote:okay think i figured it out I have the harness from the 2000 with the 2200 but am using my 95 harness just have too change a few connectors and a couple of sensors dont get hooked up;

That's one way of going about it... But do you really wanna give-up the sequential fuel-injection had with the later system, and deal with the mismatched fuel & spark mapping you'll have using the '95 ECM, just to make fit in your '95? I wouldn't. I'd take what Bob's got off his hands, if I were you.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

it starts seems too run fine, as far as the injectors go, thought it was a failry simple thing too do. however i do realize that the newer ones are "matched to speak of but the firing of my computer wouldnt do them anu good, may try and do the full swap at some point just dont have the time right now racing tomorrow some of you may know how that is.

okay now today i go too load it and no fire, it has no spark anyone have any thoughts

Hmm... I wonder if its cuz you have an OB2 motor wired to an OBD1 car... LOL.

Just for clarity, what did you reuse & what did you change or adapt?


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

I used the sensors out of the 95 block ( all of them off the back) I had too wire the injectors into my harness, I had too wire the sensor with all the vacumn lines into my harness ( it sits on the throttle body on my 95 2.2 but is in the intake on the 2200, I have one wire in the back of the harness that would be on the rear lower of the enginge but dont recall pulling anything out of the engine in that area. that is all I used or wired I just have no spark

Hold-up a minute... I just remembered something critical that severely effects why your swap wouldn't work:

When the engine was redesigned for '98, the triggers on the crank-trigger wheel were advanced several degrees to cause the injectors firing time sooner to achieve better mileage. This alone will cause trouble for those that swap a 2200 into a 2.2L app, as the computer (unless it's been reprogrammed) will still think it's seeing signal from a pre-'98 crank. The result is the spark comes too-soon & the engine fights the resistance resulting from it.

BTW: You did use the ICM off the '95 engine with this swap... Right?


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Nickelin Dimer wrote:Hold-up a minute... I just remembered something critical that severely effects why your swap wouldn't work:

When the engine was redesigned for '98, the triggers on the crank-trigger wheel were advanced several degrees to cause the injectors firing time sooner to achieve better mileage. This alone will cause trouble for those that swap a 2200 into a 2.2L app, as the computer (unless it's been reprogrammed) will still think it's seeing signal from a pre-'98 crank. The result is the spark comes too-soon & the engine fights the resistance resulting from it.

BTW: You did use the ICM off the '95 engine with this swap... Right?

It won't keep it fropm running. I have done this swap. We put a 01 2200 in a 96 cavy. We used the 96 ECU, wiring harness, just adding the 2200 injector harness. Car is still running around on the 96 ECU.



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yeah i used the 95 computer also the 95 crank sensor, knock sensor, and all the other sensors off the 95 that I could put in. I changed them so I didnt have too cut wires, maybe I need to use the knock sensor from the new motor I noticed there is a size difference