John Benham wrote:yeah, an interchangable system would be pretty sweet......put the side exit on for the track, and an over axle system for on the road....I could dig that.
x38563892 that would be great.
my only hope would be that the side exit would still have enough ground clearance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpoGgZpwyKs
Something like this would be ideal for a side exit, especially if you've got a turbo setup like my friends SRT-4 in the video.
Just an idea thrown out there for discussion.
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John Benham wrote:yeah, an interchangable system would be pretty sweet......put the side exit on for the track, and an over axle system for on the road....I could dig that.
I wasn't thinking about having them interchangeable but that could definitely be done for an additional charge. I was thinking of having the flanges right before the first bend towards the drivers side and one on each end of the over axle piece. If people know they'll want an interchangeable system we can move the first flange to after the first bend thus giving you a dump pipe there, a side exit you could see, and an over axle setup too. It could be like 3-in-1 if you will. It would cost more to make and ship though because of the additional pieces.
My side exit looked exactly like the one in that SRT video BTW and it flowed really well with the car. It was quite a bit louder than that one though. I never had a clearance issue with mine because we made a bracket off the factory hangar mount to keep the tip up near the body and a hunk of rubber secured to the body kept it from rattling at all.
Vitamin E wrote:I know shipping prices will be high, that is expected for this. But, let's try and keep the prices well below the Magnaflow and Borla set ups. $600+ is crazy. Half that is the perfect price.
My goal all along has been to be WAY under the Borla and Magnaflow prices....and it looks good for that, especially for the aluminum exhausts
I don't know if I can guarantee half, especially shipped, but they will be lower.
Misnblu wrote:On the Ultralight, where does the aluminum come into play on the exhaust?
It would be a stainless dp and front pipe for the added heat resistance switching to aluminum around the cat area. We could do the switch in another area if you based on customer preference though. That's one of the great things about these...they can be made to order in most cases.
BTW...I am en route to Atomic's shop right now to get pictures and work out pricing. Expect a post by tomorrow on estimated pricing.
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We'll you've given me hope for a good exhaust.
I'm still wanting a possible side exit and a over axle setup with switching between the two feasible.
Money is being saved up as we speak and should have the money in a few weeks for this exhaust.
Thanks Hypsy.
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Thank you Dave and JBO!
I'm so down for a side exit exhaust. Equating that the lope of my cams and blower whine I'm drooling already!!!!
Ok here's a few things we came up with while looking over Adam's first 3in mock up.
1) We are going to have to offer cat-backs, header-backs and downpipe-back styles. You will see why when you look at my AWESOME picture below.
2) There may be some clearancing of the heat shields to allow the 3in to fit without rattling. We will take pictures of the areas most likely to hit and you can clearance away with a hammer on your own.
3) We are going to offer muffler straps made out of aluminum to replace the stock ones. The stock steel ones are just too likely to have rusted into pieces.
4) Mufflers, cats, resonators and tips will be priced separately from these exhaust setups. It is not possible for me to account for each and every combination you could come up with. These parts can be added on before shipping or sent separately.
5) To make this multi-use setup work you will have to remove the over axle piece when running the side exit.
Ok so heres my awesome picture to explain what we're going to be offering.
In this AWESOME doodle here's whats going on....
-The top illustration is a stock setup and the bottom is a 3in FI setup. I think the labels make it simple to understand.
-Flanges A and B are
MANDATORY on all exhausts. Flange A is where the exhaust would bolt to the stock cat if equipped. Flange B is where your multiple uses get attached.
-Flange C is optional. It will be added if you purchase a muffler and have us weld a flange onto it as well or if you request it. Otherwise you will get a "raw" end at the end of the over-axle piece.
-The piping in front of Flange A will be shipped with all turbo exhausts and will be approximately 2 feet long so you can make it mate to your downpipe however you need.
I hope this isn't too confusing LOL.
Now on to some pricing estimates...and we need your feedback on this please.
3 inch MILD STEEL TURBO with 3 bolt flanges at A,B,C: $299.99
3 inch MILD STEEL TURBO with VBAND flanges at A,B,C: $324.99
2.5in MILD STEEL TURBO with 3 bolt flanges at A,B,C: $269.99
2.5in MILD STEEL TURBO with VBAND flanges at A,B,C: $299.99
Those are the only prices I have now AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE EITHER UP OR DOWN SLIGHTLY AS I FINALIZE PRICES! I need your input as to how these look right now though. Thanks.
Any comments or concerns can be posted here and will be replied to ASAP.
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Hmm, not bad pricing. A little more than custom tubes, Im sure the price will drop some once you get these going and get used to making them. I like the idea of using flange B instead of a slip joint pipe and clamp. Will there be a rear hanger?
icemike89 wrote:Hmm, not bad pricing. A little more than custom tubes, Im sure the price will drop some once you get these going and get used to making them. I like the idea of using flange B instead of a slip joint pipe and clamp. Will there be a rear hanger?
The pricing is a little more than CT but as far as I was ever told CT didn't include any flanges or hangars or anything. Just the piping. Is that correct?
We will be using ALL of the stock hangars on these. That's why you'd need to remove the over-axle piece to run the side exit. There's no hangar for that section. We are trying to find a way to make a bolt in hangar but we can't seem to find a bolt that's back there on every car that is feasible to use.
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What happened to the stainless piping that was to be offered?
I know this is a stupid question too but will the bends be all mandrel?
Since I've removed the heatshield from under the car already, the 3 inch should have no problem with fitting under the car. How long are you going to be offering these exhaust systems because for now, I'm going with the 2.5 since I'm n/a but once I go f/i, I'm going the route of the 3 inch with down pipe. This won't happen for another year to year and a half.
Sorry for all the questions but your pricing is better than what I can get from Iperformance or any other brand as long as the bends are correct for the undercarriage of the car and it all fits with no issues.
Thanks for doing this, I'll have my money next weekend.
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Thank you Dave and JBO!
Misnblu wrote:What happened to the stainless piping that was to be offered?
I know this is a stupid question too but will the bends be all mandrel?
Since I've removed the heatshield from under the car already, the 3 inch should have no problem with fitting under the car. How long are you going to be offering these exhaust systems because for now, I'm going with the 2.5 since I'm n/a but once I go f/i, I'm going the route of the 3 inch with down pipe.
In order....
I don't have the prices of the stainless finalized yet but it would PROBABLY be $50-60 more than the mild with aluminum in the middle of the mild and SS.
Yes all bends will be mandrel bends.
This will be a permanent offering from TVR/AF. We are going to do a group purchase to get these started but after that they will be made as ordered.
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Yes all of our bends will be mandrel.
As far as the stainless goes. Any exhaust offered in mild steel is also available in stainless. Were also working on a "Race" version in all aluminum with a stainless V-band muffler. I think everyone will be surprised at the pricing on that exhaust as well. More pricing and details well be soon to follow
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Atomic wrote:LOL beat me to it!
I'm good like that. I've got this post up and refreshing every 15 minutes LOL. See ya in a few hours!
I got some killer news for you and everyone with a Pacesetter Header. I am getting a few of the Pacesetter header flanges so we can make a direct bolt up downpipe back exhaust for the Pacesetter headers
Now we just need a test car or two to get the right lengths down
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Are there going to be any 2.25 exhaust options?
WildCard wrote:Are there going to be any 2.25 exhaust options?
As posted on the first page these will be available in 2.25, 2.5, and 3.0 inch sizes. It was 1AM and I didn't feel like doing any more research last night so that's why there's only 4 prices listed so far.
Before I forget to do this again, can we get a list going of what people are going to want please. That way we know where to focus our first efforts.
Name....Motor.....Exhaust Style.....Size.....Material.....Flange Type.....Add-ons (muffler, cat, res, tips)
Ryne Hoover.....Ecotec.....UL Race.....3in.....SS/Alum.....VBand.....None Kinda like that if you will.
Thanks.
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Carrie B. - 2200 - Standard Downpipe/Header Back Exhaust - 2.25" - Stainless Steel
Ryne, I am unsure of what type flanges I would want. What are the differences between the two? Is one better than the other?
Also, for add ons, I am looking to keep my exhaust as quiet as possible so what I am wanting to do is have a 16" Magnaflow cat, 2 18" Vibrant resonators and an oval bodied Vibrant resonator with a 3" tip in place of a muffler. Would I order this stuff and then send it to you guys or how would that work?
Thanks.
Hypsy (TRU TurboSport Cav) wrote:Atomic wrote:LOL beat me to it!
I'm good like that. I've got this post up and refreshing every 15 minutes LOL. See ya in a few hours!
I got some killer news for you and everyone with a Pacesetter Header. I am getting a few of the Pacesetter header flanges so we can make a direct bolt up downpipe back exhaust for the Pacesetter headers Now we just need a test car or two to get the right lengths down
*gives e-hug to Hypsy*
You made my day with this post.
I've got the Pacesetter and a direct bolt on would be awesome. *gives another hug*
This is sounding better and better as we go.
Staying tuned for more.
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Thank you Dave and JBO!
I'm so in for the UL race exhaust I hate the way mine looks and the bends are horrible but then again the previous owner cheaped out on some stuff.
I'm liking the way this is all sounding. Prices are looking good, but I want to wait until after Christmas before I commit to this purchase. But, this is on the top of the list.
MadJack wrote:MadJack, I was just thinking about doing just the over axle segment as indicated:
No flanges, 2 1/4" mild steel. The rest of the system I'll be fitting and welding myself. I'll be cutting off the PaceSetter collector and installing my own with a custom made down pipe. (wearing out my welder and band saw)
It probably wouldn't bee until after the holidays before I could get it. Then only after I complete the head, cam and timing chain swap.
This will be hard as it makes up portions of both pieces we are making. Look at the second drawing I made...that's what we're making and you can see the flanges we're putting in it already....
Carrie: 3 bolt flanges are just your standard exhaust flanges. Triangular shaped with 3 nuts and bolts holding it together. A VBand is actually 2 lipped flanges, one welded to either end of a piece, with a stainless steel clamp going over the joint. I prefer the VBands because they are must easier and quicker to install and remove, plus there's no worry about the ends or hardware corroding.
Misnblu: We look forward to getting our exhaust on your car
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Phil gruver - Ecotec - Standard 2.5 Inch resonator notips v band
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Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:Phil gruver - Ecotec - Standard 2.5 Inch resonator notips v band
Standard meaning mild steel?
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