bliZsham wrote:JimmyZ wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/25/D8HQP7F82.htmlbreitbart.com wrote:A judge said a 5-foot-1 man convicted of sexually assaulting a child was too small to survive in prison, and gave him 10 years of probation instead.Just answer me one question. Just one simple question...
WHO, besides this bleeding heart judge, really gives a rat's ass if a convicted child molester will survive his prison sentence?
Discuss.
duaLife insisted I include the following disclaimer: "rat's ass" in the above question implies no affiliation whatsoever with RatZero, ratzero.com, Canada, hockey or Mr. Poofers. I apologize for any misunderstanding, invonvenience or heart problems this may have caused.
I care if he survives his prison sentence... When he has done his time, I feel as though he deserves another shot at life. He wasn't sentenced to death... Then again, this is complete BS that he couldn't survive in prison. And I definitely feel this is an injustice.
Rosario wrote:bliZsham wrote:JimmyZ wrote:http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/25/D8HQP7F82.htmlbreitbart.com wrote:A judge said a 5-foot-1 man convicted of sexually assaulting a child was too small to survive in prison, and gave him 10 years of probation instead.Just answer me one question. Just one simple question...
WHO, besides this bleeding heart judge, really gives a rat's ass if a convicted child molester will survive his prison sentence?
Discuss.
duaLife insisted I include the following disclaimer: "rat's ass" in the above question implies no affiliation whatsoever with RatZero, ratzero.com, Canada, hockey or Mr. Poofers. I apologize for any misunderstanding, invonvenience or heart problems this may have caused.
I care if he survives his prison sentence... When he has done his time, I feel as though he deserves another shot at life. He wasn't sentenced to death... Then again, this is complete BS that he couldn't survive in prison. And I definitely feel this is an injustice.
You wouldnt feel that way if it was your sister, neice, daughter, ect...
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:ln2johnny wrote:Give me the guy's info and I can probably find what you want. I have accsess to search engines that the public can't access.
I seriously doubt you have the same kind of access I have...
I can get into NCIC and all state databases, but I have to justify my inquiries, I just don't feel like losing my job to prove a point
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote: And Vigilante's arise from people that are too afraid to do the right thing (ie. protect their kids like a parent) and do the wrong thing (ie. damage property like a vandal).
John Wilken wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote: And Vigilante's arise from people that are too afraid to do the right thing (ie. protect their kids like a parent) and do the wrong thing (ie. damage property like a vandal).
Gam, this really offended me. I have children, and I do my best to keep them from harm. I let them ride their bikes to a friend's house, go to the corner store, even visit a playground. In any of these "normal" childhood events, they could be overpowered by an adult and abused.
Your implication that this child molester's victim was in some way the result of bad parenting really pissed me off. If this was an adult female that was raped you wouldn't say that it was her fault , would you?
Probation wouldn't be a problem if this man had harmed my daughter. I would personally make sure he sufficiently "paid his debt to society", and if that means "doing the wrong thing" I can accept that. It's not "an eye for an eye", it's justice.
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GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:John Wilken wrote:GAM (The Kilted One) wrote: And Vigilante's arise from people that are too afraid to do the right thing (ie. protect their kids like a parent) and do the wrong thing (ie. damage property like a vandal).
Gam, this really offended me. I have children, and I do my best to keep them from harm. I let them ride their bikes to a friend's house, go to the corner store, even visit a playground. In any of these "normal" childhood events, they could be overpowered by an adult and abused.
Your implication that this child molester's victim was in some way the result of bad parenting really pissed me off. If this was an adult female that was raped you wouldn't say that it was her fault , would you?
Probation wouldn't be a problem if this man had harmed my daughter. I would personally make sure he sufficiently "paid his debt to society", and if that means "doing the wrong thing" I can accept that. It's not "an eye for an eye", it's justice.
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John, I think you misunderstood me, or I wasn't quite clear.
What was meant was that striking out at someone that has done nothing wrong to YOU is wrong. You acting first is the absolute WRONG THING TO DO. If it's worth you losing some serious money or worse, your freedom, when you act first (and possibly in error), then go ahead... risk it.
I know of a case in Manitoba where a man was castrated and beaten to the point of severe brain damage because one of these "public service" sites screwed up an address and someone damned near got killed. The offender is now listed as a violent offender and has subsequently lost custody of his kids.
Think before you start wandering off on hypotheticals.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote: And Vigilante's arise from people that are too afraid to do the right thing (ie. protect their kids like a parent)
John Wilken wrote:
I didn't mean that I would go hunting down every sex offender because I didn't believe they had received appropriate punishment. I took offense to your implication that the parents of this child molester's victim were in some way responsible for the molestation. This isn't a hypothetical, this is your statement:
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote: And Vigilante's arise from people that are too afraid to do the right thing (ie. protect their kids like a parent)
Vigilante's are made from people who fail to protect their kids? I believe that it would be people who are overly concerned about thier kids that would risk the consequences, not the other way around.
I sincerely hope I'm misunderstaning your meaning on this, I usually respect your opinions.
GAM (The Kilted One) wrote:
I AM however saying that simple things like don't get into cars with strangers, stay with a group that's supervised by an adult, don't go to places where you're not familliar alone... Many times, that kind of instruction isn't followed.
However, this all also belies the fact that about 80-90% of the time, a victim of child abuse knows or is related to their abuser. I'm saying parents should be a bit more aware and act like responsible adults, that's all. Beating the snot out of someone that hasn't done anything to you or your kids isn't responsible. Neither is trashing their car, their home or anything of the like.