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Re: Just watched fox and friends for the first time...
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 5:35 PM on j-body.org
Hot Dogs FTW!!!!!!





with saurkraut please







Re: Just watched fox and friends for the first time...
Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:48 PM on j-body.org
Take Back the Republican Party wrote:


Hmm. Wait. They have no competition. That's a Monopoly. That's anti-business. Shouldn't you be offended by that?


To some, having a Monopoly IS the ultimate buisness goal.


THE POLITICALLY INCORRECT ONE.

Re: Just watched fox and friends for the first time...
Thursday, August 19, 2010 4:12 PM on j-body.org
[quote=Mr. Michael

Obama!!!!!! For the hour and a half I watched a story was run every ten minutes or so about how he was doing something wrong. He was never viewed in a positive light.


Discuss.

how many times CNN run a story about Bush doing something wrong and viewed in a positive light?

it goes both ways because they both fit
Re: Just watched fox and friends for the first time...
Saturday, August 21, 2010 11:00 PM on j-body.org
The business talk of monopolies and such is not applicable. A more fitting thing to say would be that Fox has corned the market - instead of trying to appeal to all therefore appealing very little to anyone, they appeal strongly to a selective demographic. Its smart, business wise. Instead of trying to the a jack of all, they chose to be a master of one.

Defender of My Waterpark wrote:

Nothing is stopping msnbc from firing some of their liberal commentators and hiring some well know conservatives. If it would bring in more moderates, and raise revenue....why don't they do it? I'll tell you why: They BELIEVE in tacos..
Interesting that you make no suggestion of Fox giving Liberals their own shows as a way to improve it. Probably though, they're better off just the way they are.

MSNBC is biased, no doubt. But perhaps you are unaware of their own morning show - Morning Joe.

From a perspective of wanting to be neutral and unbiased, they might want to look up your idea. But...

From a business perspective though, they should do the opposite of what you suggest. They should more closely emulate Fox - but from the other side. They are playing the same game as Fox, but they aren't playing it nearly as hard or with enough conviction. Maybe they still want to convince sensible people they are still on the level. Maybe they are still in denial about this themselves, I dunno. But consider this...

Just what is their highest rated show? What show is the highest rated outside of Fox? The extremist Liberal. Who brings the ratings to Fox - extremist Conservatives. People love a car/wreck wreck - even while saying how terrible it is - they love it. They love the drama of it all. Nutjobs, wacky theories, mudslinging, controversy, and most of all sensationalism = money. People once loved the gladiator arenas for the same reason. While we may have replaced that with much more civilized entertainment, the nature of people has not changed.

Glenn Beck was once on CNN. It was the same guy, but it was not the same Glenn Beck show. THIS Glenn Beck brings ratings... The people who say crazy things - create the controversy. and steal the headlines. This means ratings. The old saying about no such thing as bad publicity rings true.

Moderates on the other hand, are mostly uncontroversial... aka boring.

Another thing that helps - stoke people's emotions(especially their negative emotions). Fear is an easy target BTW. It might not be good the the national discourse, but its damn good for ratings.

Now MSNBC could raise their ratings this way too(namely by doing mostly the same thing but turning up the heat) - then all you need is the lefty fringe all frazzled and riled up too and America might be in for an ugly mess. It would only be a matter of time. Remember these words - a house divided against itself cannot stand.





Re: Just watched fox and friends for the first time...
Monday, August 23, 2010 12:56 PM on j-body.org
bk3k wrote:

The business talk of monopolies and such is not applicable. A more fitting thing to say would be that Fox has corned the market - instead of trying to appeal to all therefore appealing very little to anyone, they appeal strongly to a selective demographic. Its smart, business wise. Instead of trying to the a jack of all, they chose to be a master of one.

Defender of My Waterpark wrote:

Nothing is stopping msnbc from firing some of their liberal commentators and hiring some well know conservatives. If it would bring in more moderates, and raise revenue....why don't they do it? I'll tell you why: They BELIEVE in tacos..
Interesting that you make no suggestion of Fox giving Liberals their own shows as a way to improve it. Probably though, they're better off just the way they are.

MSNBC is biased, no doubt. But perhaps you are unaware of their own morning show - Morning Joe.

From a perspective of wanting to be neutral and unbiased, they might want to look up your idea. But...

From a business perspective though, they should do the opposite of what you suggest. They should more closely emulate Fox - but from the other side. They are playing the same game as Fox, but they aren't playing it nearly as hard or with enough conviction. Maybe they still want to convince sensible people they are still on the level. Maybe they are still in denial about this themselves, I dunno. But consider this...

Just what is their highest rated show? What show is the highest rated outside of Fox? The extremist Liberal. Who brings the ratings to Fox - extremist Conservatives. People love a car/wreck wreck - even while saying how terrible it is - they love it. They love the drama of it all. Nutjobs, wacky theories, mudslinging, controversy, and most of all sensationalism = money. People once loved the gladiator arenas for the same reason. While we may have replaced that with much more civilized entertainment, the nature of people has not changed.

Glenn Beck was once on CNN. It was the same guy, but it was not the same Glenn Beck show. THIS Glenn Beck brings ratings... The people who say crazy things - create the controversy. and steal the headlines. This means ratings. The old saying about no such thing as bad publicity rings true.

Moderates on the other hand, are mostly uncontroversial... aka boring.

Another thing that helps - stoke people's emotions(especially their negative emotions). Fear is an easy target BTW. It might not be good the the national discourse, but its damn good for ratings.

Now MSNBC could raise their ratings this way too(namely by doing mostly the same thing but turning up the heat) - then all you need is the lefty fringe all frazzled and riled up too and America might be in for an ugly mess. It would only be a matter of time. Remember these words - a house divided against itself cannot stand.







kinda agree with you on this, the car wrecks get people to watch. allot of the people that are out there know that if they get things going. say things over the top, throw out the hot topic buttons that the ratings poor in, there fan base grows. i think the problem is society is starting to put these people on a pedestal and follow them, when in reality allot of them are just there for the money and the ratings and the glory of the popularity more then anything. they fully know that they could say "i dont agree with that" but they also know they can say " your a freaking lunatic out of your mind and your killing babies with that type of talk" which one do you think these guys are responding with???



though i think the house divided against it self has allready been acheieved these last 10 years or so and its just getting worse.


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