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what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:30 AM
hey i was thinkin of tradin my 2200 for a 2.4 or 2.4 eco. what engine do u think is faster? i have read about people hittin 15.4's stock with and eco and 2.4's runnin 16's. why is that if the 2.4 has more tourqe and hp? which one should i get?




Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 4:03 AM
first you're talking about the 2.2 eco not the 2.4 eco which is not out yet. also if you would just search you'd find that there is not more than .1 or .2 difference in them with advantage to the 2.4. I'd take the eco just because you'd probably get lower miles and it's the new engine, not the old, and it's got just as much potential.



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Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:53 AM
DanteMustDie wrote:first you're talking about the 2.2 eco not the 2.4 eco which is not out yet. also if you would just search you'd find that there is not more than .1 or .2 difference in them with advantage to the 2.4. I'd take the eco just because you'd probably get lower miles and it's the new engine, not the old, and it's got just as much potential.


Even though I love my 2.4

Ditto, go with the 2.2L It will be better in the long run.



Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 10:09 AM
IMO..lol...

The 2.4 is better for bolt on's...but in the long run and for boost the eco wins. With the ION and Cobalt out...there will probably alot more aftermarket now.







Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:05 PM
cavipower1 wrote:hey i was thinkin of tradin my 2200 for a 2.4 or 2.4 eco. what engine do u think is faster? i have read about people hittin 15.4's stock with and eco and 2.4's runnin 16's. why is that if the 2.4 has more tourqe and hp? which one should i get?


anything can effect times. track conditions, driver, temp. whatever.
but i also heard the same you did. and i also heard the oppisite



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Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:28 PM
I ran a mod 15 with my 2.4L auto with an IE. Sooo...

As for it being slower with most people, there are not many 2.4L out there with very low miles. Also, it's an Iron block. Can take alot of abuse but it's heavy. Takes two people to life my 2.4L around. I can lift an Eco by myself (with mild damage to my tendons.)



Re: what is Faster?
Sunday, June 26, 2005 3:05 PM
sorry about the 2.4 eco thing it was kinda late and i was sleepy. yeah ill prolly get an eco just because i can go to a dealer and pay the car in payments. that way i can afford it with the job that i have now.



Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 9:22 AM
round 300 of the eco 2.4 battle eco is off to an early lead with the 2.4 nipping at it's heals.


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Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:03 PM
DanteMustDie wrote:the 2.4 eco which is not out yet..


i dunno about the states, but it's out here, in Canada...

  

Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 4:58 PM
2.4 LD9

easy swap, good power, tons of parts and knowledge. do it.




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Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:31 PM
[quote=TraJadY  ]
DanteMustDie wrote:the 2.4 eco which is not out yet..


i dunno about the states, but it's out here, in Canada...

What vehicle is it in up here in Canada then? I never heard anything about it being released yet.




Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 7:20 PM
[quote=TraJadY  ]
DanteMustDie wrote:the 2.4 eco which is not out yet..


i dunno about the states, but it's out here, in Canada...

its not out in canada


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Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:11 PM
yeah sorry i just re-read my post, i meant to say its not out in Canada.



Re: what is Faster?
Wednesday, July 06, 2005 8:50 PM
if your going to boost get the eco



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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:39 PM
You will have boost on the 2.2 Eco
Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:52 PM
LD9... but i'am biased... i wouldnt get an Eco... plus i can easily rebuild my 2.4 for alot less than getting a new car... but thats me...

Eco is prolly a better choice tho as it is the newer engine and is really being backed by GM...


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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:53 PM
also forgot to add, i havent lost to an Eco yet, but i only raced a sunfire GT 5spd but he was stock...


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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:22 PM
Actually there is a 2.4 eco now, I believe its somethin like 170hp, its in the new 2006 ion/cobalts.



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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:26 PM
170 hp and 170 tq to be more precise, with VVT

but the thing is you can't buy a car with that engine yet.



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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 1:31 PM
Yes you can, 2006 ION.



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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 2:10 PM
funny, on saturn.com I don't see any saturn with a 2.4 eco available to buy, got any links for what you're claiming ? I'm saying they aren't available now.



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Re: what is Faster?
Thursday, July 07, 2005 5:06 PM
I think you may be thinking of the supercharged 2.0 that is on the Ion redline and the Cobalt SS. I didnt think they were going to go through with the 2.4.
Re: what is Faster?
Friday, July 08, 2005 1:20 AM
Go to a saturn dealer, they are listing it on the site because they are still pushing 2005's. Im not an idiot I know the difference between a 2.0 supercharged engine and a 2.4 V V T engine. Go to a dealer and ask them about a 2006 with the 2.4 eco option, its a 700 dollar mark up option from the 2.2.

click me

You'll see that I didn't believe him at first either.
Thank you and goodnight sir.



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Re: what is Faster?
Friday, July 08, 2005 6:36 AM
That guy is either lying or doesn't know what he is talking about. First off he contradicts himself saying he baught a 2006 and then at the end of the post he says he wanted to thank Jerry the sales associate for helping him track down the 05. Second I called Saturns customer number on their web page to request info on the 2006 redline and they told me the 06 redline isn't in production yet and that they won't have any info on it until late august just like every other car that sells in the U.S.

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Re: what is Faster?
Friday, July 08, 2005 12:15 PM
He said he was looking for an 05 with ABS and the travel package. When it couldnt be found they hooked him up with an 06.
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