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ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:27 PM
What hp and tq does a stock 2003 chevy cavalier put to the wheels? (roughly)

Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:27 PM
5-spd**
Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:52 PM
About 125-130ish





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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 2:57 PM
Yeah anywhere from 120-130 hp and tq to the wheels.


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:53 PM
wow, do they really put out that much stock to the wheels? hmm, i'm not familiar w/ the eco but i keep hearing good things about it. i'm liking it more and more each day


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 3:59 PM
Thats for the 5speed though, if you have an Auto then i'm sure its much lower.



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 4:04 PM
Auto's are maybe 5hp less to the wheels than the 5 speeds.





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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:53 PM
Why is that^^^ like I know with a 5spd you can get more psi safer with a turbo application and obvisously its fast in a race, but actual power really? why is that

and yea i asked this quesion a while back in the newbies forum of who has dynoed their stock eco's and the lowest I got was 126whp and the highest was 132whp and yes they had the papers to prove it,,,,,but this was atleast a year ago....not sure on torque numbers though




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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 6:10 PM
I dynoed 121 whp stock. 5 spd

More power is lost through the auto trans.



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:30 PM
so i have a b@m shift plus when i get my car dynoed can i leave this on level 1 or turn it completly off

sorry to thread jack just want to know



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:40 PM
i heard 5speed has more power but less torque, becuase i wanted to do a tranny swap and the guy told me i'd lose a lil torque and gain a lil power when switchin to stick


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:02 PM
Auto's lose power because of drivetrain loss.

But those are actually some pretty good numbers. Higher than I thought.


Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:14 PM
manual trans will ALWAYS have higher whp then auto trans. For a couple reasons... manual trans the flywheel is conected to the crank, and the clutch is splined to the trans, there for its 1 to 1 dirrect connected.... with auto trans the engine connects to the torgue convertor which connects to the trans... it work by spinning the engine spins the insideds and transfers fluid which turn the trans... once your inside the trans there is a ton of parts, clutch packs and gear sets ect.. in a manual its just a couple shafts with gears, and there isn't a trans fluid pump built into it.... I'm to trying to be specific without being specific enough to lose everyone hahaha. More or less it takes more work to make a auto trans work then it does to make a manual trans work. You don't actually MAKE more power with the manual trans, you just lose less power in the trans and more of the power your making actually goes towards making the car move.


as for the 5-speed ecos they have been known to dyno as high as the mid 130whp and run 1/4 mile times as low as low 15's



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Friday, February 17, 2006 8:02 AM
Boorad wrote:Why is that^^^ like I know with a 5spd you can get more psi safer with a turbo application and obvisously its fast in a race, but actual power really? why is that

and yea i asked this quesion a while back in the newbies forum of who has dynoed their stock eco's and the lowest I got was 126whp and the highest was 132whp and yes they had the papers to prove it,,,,,but this was atleast a year ago....not sure on torque numbers though


just to correct you a bit autos actually are despituably better with turbos in ceratian applications in terms of holding power. now upgradeing cluth and fly wheel is another storie.



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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Friday, February 17, 2006 9:54 AM
I mean on a manuael becuase then theres no comparsion

suprised I made it before I got the flame


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 6:57 AM
OK, so lets say we took this say stock ecotec 5spd and added these mods:

(which some are already complete and others are future plans)

K&N Typhoon Intake kit
RKSport Cat-Back exhaust
RKSport Lightened underdrive pulley
RKsport Lower Engine mount
RKsport Upper Engine Mount

In a ball park what are we talking, like 10hp and 10tq? Roughly?

Anyone have a car thats close to those N/A mods and what power have u seen?
Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 7:50 AM
With my 2004 ECOTEC - with the following mods...62mm tb, rsm intake, pacesetter cat back(I know , I know....yes it sucks) I hit the dyno at 131.2 HP at the wheels. He pushed it to 5350 RPM, not the full red-line on the tach. I have the proof in my hand. Yes its a Automatic.


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:00 AM
stock shoudl be 128 hp and 140ish tq...

with my mods-warm air intake 2.25 inch pipe from cat back to fart can (thats getting changed sooon) and pace setter header i put down 133.5 hp and 150.4 tq and i got proof in my hands too





Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 5:48 PM
Aem intake, custom 2 1/4 exhaust w/magnaflow muffler

141hp 140tq



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:17 PM
Damn, hearing all these numbers makes me re-think the power I might be puttin down. I have:

- AEM CAI
- Magnaflow Cat-Back
- Pacesetter Header
- High-Flow Cat
- Upper Motor Mount
- Lower Motor Mount
- RSM 62mm T/B

I thought I would be barely pushing 130whp since of the Auto tranny but maybe i'm mistaken.



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 9:59 PM
^ No, you should be right around 130 to the wheels.


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:04 PM
need to redyno mine since my first numbers were with stock cat and res. now i have magnaflow 2.25 inch high flow and a 2.25 inch in and out 12 inch long res.... hopefullly the hp will be a lil better..





Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:07 PM
^What are you dropped on? I am guessing they are coilovers or the pic is photoshopped. Either way, it looks great.


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Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:09 PM
^^^ I've always wondered about that too SLO CAV, are you finally dropped or still stock?



Re: ecotec hp to the wheels...
Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:29 PM
^^^ photoshop



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