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Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 4:52 PM
I was wondering if it was possible to convert the stock ignition system with one from MSD. I wanted to know if I can use the Cam Sync Generator, external coils and plug wires without buying an actual ignition box. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:13 PM
what car do you have and what motor?
only reason you would need to do this is if you have some sort of high power motor.




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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:18 PM
2.2 coil conversion escape you?

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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 5:53 PM
i have an 03 ls sport with the 2.2 ecotec. i only asked because i thought it may add some power and i saw msd made the parts.

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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 6:07 PM
in my opinion, it be a waste



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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:29 PM
i just did the 2.2 coil conv a week ago, and besides getting the firing order mixed up, everything worked perfect! It actually felt like it had a tiny bit more power down low....but it IS getting better spark cause I have no more misfire near redline! I say do it to itttt



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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:37 PM
This is everything you need...ever.

I actually made this search for myself less than 10 minutes ago.

http://www.j-body.org/forums/search.php?f=2&search=msd&globalsearch=1&match=1&date=0&threadtype=1&fldsubject=1



Re: Ignition Upgrade
Thursday, November 16, 2006 7:39 PM
i have one, i sure noticed it. with other mods it will work better. they will all work together. the more the mods the better they will work. it's not a waste.
Re: Ignition Upgrade
Friday, November 17, 2006 6:54 AM
yeah i saw the site on how to install it with the DIS box but what i was wondering was can you install just the coils, cam sync and wires WITHOUT the box?

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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Friday, November 17, 2006 9:42 PM
theres no point whatsoever running msd coils and wires off the stock ICM, its totally inefficient and even if it did work it would be far less effective than the stock setup

its only beneficial to run aftermarket coils and wires when your bumping up the voltage, stock is made to handle stock voltage. In my experiences with the MSD ive blown 2 sets of stock coil packs just running the box right to the stock coils in 30k miles, id say theres a need for aftermarket stuff when running an msd

Also I dont think you want to spend 300 dollars in parts for a ignition that performs worse than stock



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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Saturday, November 18, 2006 11:54 AM
I just thought maybe the system would work a little better with better coils instead of the stock ones. And if indeed they won't work on the stock icm, what type of msd box would I need, would it only work with the dis-2 or could i buy a different box like the 6AL?


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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:15 PM
The stock ignition system is actually pretty good! I don't know specific details, but I know with the GTP guys (3.8L V6 supercharged motor), the stock coils are more powerful than the MSD coils... so there's no point in switching.

Unless you NEED a hotter spark... ie nitrous, and you're blowing the spark out with the extra power... then I wouldn't bother.

I put a MSD DIS-2 on my old 2000 Z24 when I first started running nitrous - only because I needed a way to retard the timing. That was pretty much it. The hotter spark the MSD DIS-2 provided... using the stock coils and springs & boots, was a slight benefit...





Re: Ignition Upgrade
Saturday, November 18, 2006 12:29 PM
ok well since the ignition apparently is a good setup, what else can i do to bump up my performance? i already have a k&n typhoon intake, pacesetter header, magnaflow cat, 2.5" stainless exhaust, and upgraded spark conductor springs. i ain't looking to be a drag racer i just want a lil more power. any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


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Re: Ignition Upgrade
Saturday, November 18, 2006 1:12 PM
Patrick Myers wrote:ok well since the ignition apparently is a good setup, what else can i do to bump up my performance? i already have a k&n typhoon intake, pacesetter header, magnaflow cat, 2.5" stainless exhaust, and upgraded spark conductor springs. i ain't looking to be a drag racer i just want a lil more power. any ideas would be greatly appreciated.[/quote

larger throttle, pulley set, engine mounts, trany mounts if you have a manual



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