"The Super Hi-Flow System for the 2.4 & 2.2L" lol
I don't have any experience with it, but I'm sure it'd work fine.
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I just don't want to buy something for my car unless i do a lil research on it. if any one could get me a picture of it installed on the 2.4 i would greatly appreciate it.
I've used that setup since I bought my Cavalier.
Although I didn't use the factory plumbing for my air intake, I did use the RK intake tube to run to the fenderwell.
Here's some pictures of my setup if they'll help you figure it all out.
Btw, you can use an AEM intake and couple if to the RK cai tube and have a nice cold air intake, similar to what you'll be seeing.
Here's the pics.
This one shows the filter in the fenderwell.
I removed the windshield washer fluid reservoir so I could run a bigger filter so that the engine would breath a bit better.
Here is the top half of the intake system.
Hope this helps a bit in your decision.
Also, I've never had an issue with water getting into the filter.
Misnblu.com
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Thank you Dave and JBO! 
I dont know if this will work or not, but that is an injen probably like what you are looking at.
just stick with a short intake... all that twisting the air has to do before getting to the engine... yea wow
everytime air takes a turn it loses velocity.. velocity is your friend
"cool air" is overrated
[quote}just stick with a short intake... all that twisting the air has to do before getting to the engine... yea wow
everytime air takes a turn it loses velocity.. velocity is your friend
"cool air" is overrated
Some people just don't get it.
Skylar, to answer your question, the intake you have will couple to the RK intake tube. Just use a silicone coupler to couple them up together to make one intake.
And on all of the bends, they're not more than 45 degrees which has little effect on the air velocity as compared to people using 90 degree bends on most air intake systems I see.
Last, I fully tested every version of air intake with my car from getting actual air intake readings, to outside comparison readings to see which really is better, the cai or wai.
Cai always came out with the best results and netted a tenth better at the track with over 3 months testing multiple variations of wai/ cai designs.
Over rated? Nah, I don't think so.
90 degree bends to stop velocity, yes, and that's a bad thing. 45 degree bends and using the right diameter piping to maintain velocity, priceless.
Finally, for every 10 degrees of warmer air into your throttlebody, you're losing about 10 horsepower, approximately.
With a wai, I've seen temperature increases from the filter being in the engine compartment as much as 40 degrees or more when idling at a traffic light, waiting for traffic to get moving again. WIth the cai on the same hot day, went up to only no more than 10 degrees while idling at the light, and always stayed within no more than 5 degrees when traveling down the road. With the wai, traveling down the same road would yield 15-25 or more degrees warmer than actual outside air, even at speed, so the theory that a car moving will have about the same temperature under the hood as outside is incorrect. This was pretty much the same constants throughout my testing of the wai/ cai debate.
Cai ftw everytime.
Misnblu.com
Newbie member since 1999
Thank you Dave and JBO!
misnblu ftw everytime.
this is the guy that got his AUTOMATIC ld9 into the mid 15's N/A. he knows what he's talking about.
Thanks for the help every one i just have a few more questions.
what about that little plug the plugs into the stock intake tube? what do i do about that?
and Misnblu is the RKSport intake made of of plastic or is it just painted black?
The RK extension is plastic.
The RK intake system itself is metal.
So you'll actually endup purchasing 2 parts.
You're gonna need that sensor for your new intake.
Its your IAT sensor.
-M
Remember....syringes go in the RED waste basket.
I guess a better question would have been does the RKSport intake have a spot that i connect the IAT sensor too? and by what im getting from all these responses is that this is a decent intake to get correct?
thanks for all your help
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The RK extension is plastic.
The RK intake system itself is metal.
So you'll actually endup purchasing 2 parts.
You're gonna need that sensor for your new intake.
Its your IAT sensor.
Mastin is correct here with having to use two seperate intakes to make one.
Matt, the rk cai tube is not where you'll be installing your IAT sensor. That should be what goes on your intake tube near the throttlebody.
If there is no provision for the IAT sensor, then just drill out a hole that will accomodate the sensor, use a grommet which you can get from any parts house, and install it with a snug fit. You don't want air leaking into or around the IAT sensor so make sure that it's a snug fit.
When I had to drill my intake tube for my IAT sensor, I just took out the IAT sensor while I was at the parts store, and measured up everything before I left. This way, I was sure that it would all fit once I started the drilling process.
Matt, that should get you there where you want to be with your intake.
Holler if you've got anymore questions about it.
Oh and DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU, I have much respect for you on the forums. I was in no way implying anything about your knowledge about the J-bodies.
Misnblu.com
Newbie member since 1999
Thank you Dave and JBO!
I tend to agree with Paul on this...... I live where the temperature ranges from 20 below to over 100 between winter and summer and I can only feel a slight increase in power in the winter time over on a 80 degree summer day... and that's probably just my butt dyno lying to me.... Although when it gets close to 100 degrees outside.... I can really tell that the car doesn't like it.
Which brings me to this...
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Finally, for every 10 degrees of warmer air into your throttle body, you're losing about 10 horsepower, approximately.
WTF are you talking about.... by your logic.. my car should be putting out about 65 more HP right now than it did in July...... I'm sorry but your just F'ing crazy if you think that.... There's just NO way....... I might believe that 40 degrees = 2 HP at the most... but that would be it.... also there is more air flowing under your hood than you might think....
You really need to think about velocity and intake efficiency way more then you need to worry about a 10 degree difference in air temp...
This Intake will do just fine for what your using it for...
1-2 hp per 30 degrees to be precise.
But in all fairness to the question, if you want a cai don't buy this setup from RKsport... too expensive.
"Smoked"
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Side Note: For every 10 Degrees F reduction in intake charge temperature, a 1% increase in power will be realized. Example: A 400 HP engine with an intake temperature drop of 70 Degrees F, would gain approximately 30 HP on the cooling affect alone.
As quoted from
http://www.gotsqueeze.com/MakingHP.htm.
Yeah, I over-exaggerated what I meant but it wasn't that bad off.
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WTF are you talking about.... by your logic.. my car should be putting out about 65 more HP right now than it did in July...... I'm sorry but your just F'ing crazy if you think that.... There's just NO way....... I might believe that 40 degrees = 2 HP at the most... but that would be it.... also there is more air flowing under your hood than you might think....
You really need to think about velocity and intake efficiency way more then you need to worry about a 10 degree difference in air temp...
I won't argue over what I've done and found in logical testing so it's all good.
Good luck with your intake Matt.
Misnblu.com
Newbie member since 1999
Thank you Dave and JBO!
i hate to keep asking more dumb questions but, i like to consider all my options. what other CAIs are avaliable for the ld9? i saw one from RD FABS but it seems a bit pricy.
This is the one from RD FABS. any one have any info on this? or any other CAIs around?
thanks for all the help guys i really apriciate it
DaFlyinSkwirl (PJ) - APU wrote:just stick with a short intake... all that twisting the air has to do before getting to the engine... yea wow
everytime air takes a turn it loses velocity.. velocity is your friend
"cool air" is overrated
HE already said everything you need to know.You can buy a cheap short ram on ebay for 50 bucks shipped.I've seen the bomz intakes for about that much and haven't heard anything bad about them.Then all you need is a decent filter for it.
And remember and intake is an intake
1999 2.2 auto
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And remember and intake is an intake
Dang, I keep forgetting that I'm on the JBO.
Sorry.
This is where stupidity is bliss and ignorance is unfounded.
Kind of like a car is a car. Hmmm, good logic you got there.
Misnblu.com
Newbie member since 1999
Thank you Dave and JBO!
^^ what I wrote in the middle quote.
-M
Remember....syringes go in the RED waste basket.
