I found this secret weapon CAI on j.c. whitney that got really good reviews. I went to their website and read up on the kit, and it seemed pretty good and legit. Anyone ever put one of these in their car? I have a 01 cavy Z24 that i want to put it in.


There's no pain like wrecking your first J

Intake is an intake dude

Ive never heard of this one but a true Cold Air vs Warm air is another common problem cause most companies call all their intakes CAI when infact they are WAI

http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=2&i=406149&t=406149


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Everyone has their opinions on intakes. I believe that its just a pipe and filter, of course i had someone tell me that to realize it. You are buying the name more than anything. The post i left is just to show the intakes and everyones thoughts. I have one from eBay temporarily. It only costs 30. And what am i to say, it doesn't please me? Its doing everything an intake is suppose too.

Search: Ram-air!

All else will pale by comparision.

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Ram-air is a marketing ploy....

Still effectively works that way, don't it? Or do you wish to argue with ligit article writing pros with years of proven handed-down wisdom & experience in the area of automotive performance? This mod also helps build power with F/I systems as well, if you haven't figured it out.

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

You show me ram air that actually works in any way shape or form on a street driven Jbody, and I'll introduce you to my special herd of flying pigs. I'm not going to argue with you because I'm right.

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Well it really doesn't matter what its call warm air just means it in the enginb bay, cold air is outside the engine bay. That does matter to much though because on a warm air intake when the car moving the air get in the engine bay so it will still be ne the same degrees and a CAI and on a warm day a CAI just takes in the warm air for the outside. Really not to much of a difference. When it Cold outside same thing they both take in about the same degree cold air. It really just a person prefrence on that issue.

Actually hot days is when you do notice the difference. All be it, the difference is small, but it is a difference. Especially when moving slow the CAI will consistently show cooler IAT sensor readings.

In an abundance of moving air, or when its damn cold out the difference is negligible however.

ya i forgot to ad that part it does make a diffrence when you going slow on a warm day because the air doesn't get in the engine bay.

KFLO, you just responded to your own criticism with arguement in favor of ram-air systems. The trick with any N/A air intake system in providing an abundance of air combined with the reduced restriction of it's flow. Plus you forget that for 10*F drop in inlet air temp equals an average of 1hp increase in power production. And if you don't think ram-air is valid, I offer you two examples that prove otherwise: The '68 Hurst Olds used an under-bumper dual snorkel system that obviously must have worked since every model muscle machine employed some itteration of a FAI 'til the end of the 1st musclecar era. Then there's the scoop a buddy and I built for his '87 GN that collected air from the draft that ran under his license plate and funneled in to his factory air-air intercooler that helped him turn mid-to-high 11s on average. Not to mention his relocation of the cylindrical K&N filter to directly behind the grill & before the A/C condenser with 3" of steel dryer hose that ran to a reducer before the factory MAF that also had the IAT mounted in it. And for the record, the only other mods he ran were larger injectors & a slightly larger turbo with the inlet bell honed-out. Invalid my dupa... Dupaya!

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Actual Ram-Air really doesn't force in anything extra until your hit like 90 - 100mph, I mean I'm not trying to argue with you, I just think we use 2 different terms for the same thing. What you call Ram-Air I would refer to as a fresh air snorkel or duct. To me, the only real and true effective ram-air is on sweet drag cars with big hoodscoops, or a big air horn molded into to the front bumper that feeds right into a monster snail.

Again, same team man, same team.



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Nickelin Dimer wrote:KFLO, you just responded to your own criticism with argument in favor of ram-air systems. The trick with any N/A air intake system in providing an abundance of air combined with the reduced restriction of it's flow. Plus you forget that for 10*F drop in inlet air temp equals an average of 1hp increase in power production. And if you don't think ram-air is valid, I offer you two examples that prove otherwise: The '68 Hurst Olds used an under-bumper dual snorkel system that obviously must have worked since every model muscle machine employed some iteration of a FAI 'til the end of the 1st muscle car era. Then there's the scoop a buddy and I built for his '87 GN that collected air from the draft that ran under his license plate and funneled in to his factory air-air intercooler that helped him turn mid-to-high 11s on average. Not to mention his relocation of the cylindrical K&N filter to directly behind the grill & before the A/C condenser with 3" of steel dryer hose that ran to a reducer before the factory MAF that also had the IAT mounted in it. And for the record, the only other mods he ran were larger injectors & a slightly larger turbo with the inlet bell honed-out. Invalid my dupa... Dupaya!

KFLO was asking about on a j-body.



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my carDomain updated 11/5/07 I've got premium. Yes I do. I've got premium. How 'bout you?

Body regardless, it's the design of the system that matters & the more air it collects from a large frontal area and funnels into a tract of a smaller area that leads to the intake manifold inlet the better it works. Hence the suggestion of placing the inlet at, as in within an opening in, the highly air-attacked front facia of the car facing into the wind directly. A system that's effective at low speeds without being restrictive at higher ones is difficult, but not impossible. I hopre I finally made clarity on the design and function of this type of system and brought an understanding of it to all of you as I tire of all the seemingly ignorant resistance I've encountered here upon this topic from some who have posted here (You know who you are. And if you don't, you're lucky they let you out without a helmet). Now let's all stop playing p-ing & part-swapper games and get to work on actually making something that ups the performance of and actually wins the respect of the traditionals for our vehicles.

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Its an intake..for the most part it doesnt matter,,,not on OUR cars anyways.

In the end OP...buy it unless you can find a cheaper option. Its a tube and filter nothing more. The name brands tend to fit better bu that is the main benifit. Buy it and be happy with your new found 3 hp..phil

I swear to god they should just rename the "performance forum" the "What intake should I get? Forum

bmxludwig wrote:I swear to god they should just rename the "performance forum" the "What intake should I get? Forum

I nearly fell outa my chair on that one....


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^^^Let's face it: In our cases, every little bit helps. So if a fabbed intake can gain us 3hp on average over any other design, I say let's go with it.

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

No..we are saying your only going to gain 3hp...not 3 hp over and above...an intake doesnt do a whole lot saldy..

Even though it doesn't gain much Hp they do make your car more fuel efficent

Thank god, at least one person grasped part of the advantage had by such a system. I mean c'mon, part of our bragging rights is the fact that we're doing the same as traditionalists with less... Less displacement, less traction (C'mon, anyone who's familiar with the priciples to weight transfer knows this to be true with FWD cars) and most critically, less fuel! This would mean that in the long run we're still spending less regularly to have as much fun, if not or having more fun for the same amount of money spent by traditionalists. I've always been a believer in the rules of teen survival in the suburbs (Cheap food, cheap fuel, cheap wheels & cheap thrills), and an improvement in a vehicle's fuel efficiency aids this well. Besides, who want's to spend more on fuel than they find acceptable?

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

I still stand by my opinion that its going to do little to nothing for power. There is no pissing contest to be had about that, read a book.

Some peopel put way to much thought into this ....99% of the time an intake is a intake. For our cars just get what you can and youll be fine. Yes ill agree there is other benifits....will anyone otice..prolly not...please lets end this eleventy billionth intake thread.