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brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 3:04 PM
is there any way to adjust brake bais

Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56

Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 4:17 PM
ok, what do you mean by Bias? cause that can mean a lot of things.



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Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:10 PM
you don't have an adjustable proportioning valve if thats what your asking. ma ybe time to adjust the rear drums, whats the problem?



Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:18 PM
I am also assuming your meaning proportioning valve adjustment. And not its not possible. Unless you can find some high tech, high dollar aftermarket equip. If you think you need brake proportion adjustment on a j-body, you definatly have a super high mod car. There really isnt any need for brake adjustment on these cars. Stock truly is the best for our cars.
Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:33 PM
my guess is he justs want to put all the braking power in the back so he can do a burnout.



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Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 7:34 PM
Rollinredcavi wrote: its not possible. Unless you can find some high tech, high dollar aftermarket equip.


of swap a stock Bonneville(?) master cylinder




Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 9:14 PM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:my guess is he justs want to put all the braking power in the back so he can do a burnout.


exactly

Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:15 PM
so just pull the e-brake handle. how hard is that?

by the way, say goodbye to your trans. 1 or 2 good one-wheeled burnouts, and your spider gears will disintegrate.



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Re: brake bais
Thursday, February 15, 2007 10:29 PM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:so just pull the e-brake handle. how hard is that?

by the way, say goodbye to your trans. 1 or 2 good one-wheeled burnouts, and your spider gears will disintegrate.



i think there called planetary gear set



Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 2:30 AM
when i pull my e-brake and try to burn out the car just pulls off screaming the tires but the back tires stay locked up


Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 4:17 AM
Jbody305 wrote:when i pull my e-brake and try to burn out the car just pulls off screaming the tires but the back tires stay locked up

Four possible solutions come to mind:
1) Put something heavy in the trunk
2) Make your attempt on a less grippy surface
3) Hold your service brakes as you begin to apply throttle, then release them suddenly to "launch" the car more effectively
4) Just don't. Especially if you need a car that isn't broken.



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Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 4:36 AM
they should make common sense a factor on determining who gets a license and who doesnt



Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 5:03 AM
Jbody305 wrote:
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:so just pull the e-brake handle. how hard is that?

by the way, say goodbye to your trans. 1 or 2 good one-wheeled burnouts, and your spider gears will disintegrate.



i think there called planetary gear set



actually its not called a planetary gear set, there is no plenetary gear set in your differential. The spider gears in the diff is what hes talking about. Don't correct someone trying to sound smart unless you actually know what your talking about.



Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 5:56 AM
Rollinredcavi wrote:Stock truly is the best for our cars.


I strongly disagree.

Jbody305 wrote:when i pull my e-brake and try to burn out the car just pulls off screaming the tires but the back tires stay locked up


Even if you could adjust the brake bias, how would that have any effect whatsoever on your ability to do a burnout?

What you need is more power, and more traction in the rear. You need the power to break loose the front tires and spin them enough to eliminate traction there, and you need enough traction in the back to keep your car from just dragging the ass end around.

Then you need an LSD so you don't just detonate the diff.

Then you need someone to bitchslap you silly for wanting to do this in the first place.




Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 9:33 AM
Darkstars wrote:
Jbody305 wrote:
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:so just pull the e-brake handle. how hard is that?

by the way, say goodbye to your trans. 1 or 2 good one-wheeled burnouts, and your spider gears will disintegrate.



i think there called planetary gear set



actually its not called a planetary gear set, there is no plenetary gear set in your differential. The spider gears in the diff is what hes talking about. Don't correct someone trying to sound smart unless you actually know what your talking about.

i dont know what im talkin about for one the gear set in the differential is called a pinion gear and for two he didnt specify where these so called spider gears were at, there is nothing in our trans that is called spider gear and if there is which i know theres not so prove it send in a pic where gm calls it a spider gear




Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 10:06 AM
A pinion gear is a gear that meets another gear (or rack) at a right angle (or close to a right angle). There is no such gear inside our transmissions.





As for brake bias: Yes a proportioning valve is one way to change bias. But anything that increases braking at one end or the other changes bias as well. Installing pads with a higher coefficient of friction will shift bias to that end of the car. Increaseing rotor size will shift bias towards that end as well. Changing the effective piston area will shift bias. Using grippier tires on one end of the car will change bias. Changing the weight over an axle will change bias. Changing one thing in a vehicle will always effect something else!



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Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 10:44 AM
OG Nick wrote:A pinion gear is a gear that meets another gear (or rack) at a right angle (or close to a right angle). There is no such gear inside our transmissions.

look at the bottom of pic see the pinion gear its in the differential







Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 10:53 AM
might wanna change your sig since its wrong.



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Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 10:57 AM
they are not pinion gears because they do not change the axis of rotation. sorry.



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Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:09 AM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:they are not pinion gears because they do not change the axis of rotation. sorry.

what are they called then


Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:10 AM
Machzel08 (Teh Jew) wrote:might wanna change your sig since its wrong.[/quotewhats wrong with it


Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56

Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:14 AM
Machzel08 (Teh Jew) wrote:might wanna change your sig since its wrong.
whats wrong with it sorry double post


Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:15 AM
they are called spider gears.



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Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:19 AM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:they are called spider gears.

not to call you a liar or anything but do you have any info to support this, just curious


Displacement= 2.2L
Valve Train= OHV
Bore & Stroke= 3.50 x 3.46
Compression Ratio= 9 to 1
Net HP @ RPM= 125 @ 5200
Maximum Torque Ft Lbs @ RPM= 135 @ 4000
Fuel System= MFI
Normal Oil Pressure: psi @ 3000 RPM= 56
Re: brake bais
Friday, February 16, 2007 11:21 AM
the 2.2 makes 115-120 hp and 130 tq stock at the crank. the numbers have been disputed at great length on this site before, but its nowhere near 140h 150t.



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