Looking to see if there is a market for 2.3-2.2 Adapter flanges to utilize the 2.3 HO intake manifold on the 2.2 Ecotec engine.
I am currently seeing if a flange is possible to be designed and produced. I am now looking for a donor head or intake manifold and I will begin measurements.
Of course it would be made of Phenolic material and have the same non heat transfering ability for lower incoming air temps. Also it would allow for an easier installation of the HO manifold which is known for its good flow.
So who would be interested?
Thanks
Chris
http://members.cardomain.com/vertz24 1998 Z24 Convertible
2.3-2.4 HO ADAPTER FLANGES 65$ shipped, Check GP Forum!
a friend of mine is....
1. dom curtis.
1st 1st gen on air.....
Use aluminum for this one Chris or you'll have stripping issues (bolt pattern isnt even close and the adapter flange will have to tapped)
Built, bottled, ready for 11s. 14.446@93.74mph, 1.848 60' N/A.
I'm interested.
I also have spare eco head (stripped) and HO Manifold as well.
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Owen wrote:Use aluminum for this one Chris or you'll have stripping issues (bolt pattern isnt even close and the adapter flange will have to tapped)
not 100% true
he can have a hex hole put in the flange and stick a bolt out and use that to bolt the manifold to the flange after the flange is bolts up to the eco head
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Owen wrote:Use aluminum for this one Chris or you'll have stripping issues (bolt pattern isnt even close and the adapter flange will have to tapped)
not 100% true
he can have a hex hole put in the flange and stick a bolt out and use that to bolt the manifold to the flange after the flange is bolts up to the eco head
took words right our of my mouth.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
The benefit of this would be?
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
a cast aluminum intake manifold , and better tb posistion for boost , and lower cost
atleast that is all i can comment on , since no one has actually dyno'd for a difference
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Hmmmm....I might be willing to be the boosted guinea pig if someone wants to send me the parts.
I used to race cars, now I race myself.
5K PB: 24:50
10K PB: 54:26
id be interested
Member of J-body of Michigan.
how about the other way around? A Quad4 LO with a m62 would be nice swap potential
Sven you totally quarterloafed your computer..
the m62 would be a good idea besides the fact you would need custom brackets for the charger
if its beneficial im all for it i can see it possibly being a positive thing
The one, the only, ME.
i'd like to see some kind of data that would support the conclusion that there was any point to doing this whatsoever.... Granted, I know the HO is supposed to be a very good manifold... but before people go running out to do a swap, maybe you all should find some way to prove that its worth doing to begin with... or you can all jump on the typical JBO bandwagon and just do mods for the sake of doing them...
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'Nuff said
if you've ever seen the stock eco manifold it goes in and down into a silencer type thing then back up into the head, i am very sure there would be a gain here.
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one thing this product could enable is the use of the nice carb setup from the quad4. with a MSD distributor and carbs you could go old school on your Eco. I'd love to see what it'd put out. prolly surprise quite a few people.
Sven you totally quarterloafed your computer..
i thought about doing this so yea im interested!
Scarab (Jersey Jay 1.8T) wrote:i'd like to see some kind of data that would support the conclusion that there was any point to doing this whatsoever.... Granted, I know the HO is supposed to be a very good manifold... but before people go running out to do a swap, maybe you all should find some way to prove that its worth doing to begin with... or you can all jump on the typical JBO bandwagon and just do mods for the sake of doing them...
i'm with Scarab...you are all just jumping to conclusion that this will be beneficial in anyway. granted the manifold is supposed to be good for the 2.4 and the 2.3 quad four but the ecotec is a totally different engine and design.
has there even been prove yet that its benefical on the 2.4 twin cams? or just the typical ass dyno deing done?
When i had to run my 2.4 N/A fo a while I had a stock 2.4 manifold on it. 4500 RPM was where the car fell flat on its face, with the HO manifold it pulled till near revlimit. This is based on runs against a friends Eco. When I installed the HO TB it pulled even better. I know that the Eco uses a large TB to start with so that part of the gain is gone. Based purely in looking at the manifolds and what happens with the 2.4 I would have to say that it would be bennificial.
yeah........how soon can i get it?
did this thread die that quick?
