Well, I posted a question long ago if he was trust worthy and the only response was good... but todya after waiting far too long I sent the following email to him:
Quote:
From: 	Owen Stampflee <owen at stampflee.com>
To: 	tcense69 at yahoo.com
Subject: 	Where's my trunk lid?
Date: 	Sat, 15 Jul 2006 22:22:47 -0700
Either give me a tracking number with the lid enroute or give my money
back within 5 business days or I contact the authorities and press
charges.
Pretty simple huh?
Perhaps someone here local to him can give him a smack upside the head and tell him to smarten the @!#$ up before I have to contact the authorities (I sent a money order, so unless I'm mistaken, we got a case of mail fraud here)
 
 
1) How long is too long? When did you order this? How many correspondances have you had and do you have a record of them?
2) When did you ask about this? Link to your post?
3) Don't get people to do things for you and instigate a physical confrontation. Take care of your business like an adult, you are coming off as being aggressive right now. Calm down, and rationalize how you want to take care of this legally.
 
 
I know Chris, I don't think he would screw anyone over, PM me all the details about the transaction Ill get in contact with him and figure out what is going on.  Have you tried contacting him any other way than email?
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snoeterp82 wrote:1) How long is too long? When did you order this? How many correspondances have you had and do you have a record of them?
Agreed.  If you only had 1 or 2 e-mails back and forth, you are way jumping the gun.
Now if you have sent numerous e-mails with no response, your actions are justified.  Without knowing the full backstory, it is difficult to come to a rational conclusion.
snoeterp82 wrote:2) When did you ask about this? Link to your post?
http://www.j-body.org/forums/read.php?f=1&i=343242&t=343242#343242
 
 
I sent the money order beginning of april, and had been getting a run around from him up until June, which was the last time I heard from him.
BlackEco, hit me up on AIM and we'll chat.
 
 
I find it somewhat interesting that Chris is doing an Eco-swap after joining the army and in training if he is so busy.
Here is my response to a second email...
Quote:
From: 	Owen Stampflee <owen@stampflee.com>
To: 	chris ense <tcense69@yahoo.com>
Cc: 	chris6987@fuse.net
Subject: 	Re: Where's my trunk lid?
Date: 	Sun, 16 Jul 2006 12:55:29 -0700
What is the tracking number so I can have my UPS account representative
look into the matter.
Thanks,
Owen
On Sun, 2006-07-16 at 12:43 -0700, chris ense wrote:
> since we did not here from u for so long we thought u got the trunk
> lid 
> but did u contact chris
> i am  extremly sorry
>  
>  
> we will figuer out what is wrong asap 
> god bless
>  
> 
> 
> Owen Stampflee <owen@stampflee.com> wrote:
>         Either give me a tracking number with the lid enroute or give
>         my money
>         back within 5 business days or I contact the authorities and
>         press
>         charges.
>         
>         Pretty simple huh?
>         
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Yahoo! Mail Beta.
 
 
BlackEco wrote:I know Chris, I don't think he would screw anyone over, PM me all the details about the transaction Ill get in contact with him and figure out what is going on.  Have you tried contacting him any other way than email?
Well is he really in the Army?
If so then Owen it looks like you are farked for a minute, if not someone is a piece of moldy poop.
 
 
Owen Stampflee wrote:
this is not chris email 
this is his moms we shipped u your trunk a while ago 
my son to take it to michgan to ship it caise they would not let me ship it out from here cause of the material it was made of... one reason it tokk so long is cause the first time it broke
they would not ship it out again so he had to take it up there and ship it out cause ups did not want to handle it cause the first time 
what i can do it take the recipt that we got from shipping it contact them and see what the hell is going on 
cause i know we shipped it 
casue it cost us 220 to ship the dam thing
i am very sorry for taking this long 
but if u need to speak to chris he is not around 
any more
he just joined the army 
he has his lap top they let him use
his email is chris6987@fuse.net
if he does not email u back soon dont get mad
u have to under stand what he is doing right now
wit the training fo the army
 
 
but contact him
asap
i am really sorry u amnt got it yet 
and if we cant figure out what is wrong i can refundu your money but it will take a couple week till chris gets back home like 2 months
so very sorry 
Anyone else notice the internet 
"slang" in bold. Mom must be hip.
 
 
Predator wrote:Owen Stampflee wrote:
this is not chris email 
this is his moms we shipped u your trunk a while ago 
my son to take it to michgan to ship it caise they would not let me ship it out from here cause of the material it was made of... one reason it tokk so long is cause the first time it broke
they would not ship it out again so he had to take it up there and ship it out cause ups did not want to handle it cause the first time 
what i can do it take the recipt that we got from shipping it contact them and see what the hell is going on 
cause i know we shipped it 
casue it cost us 220 to ship the dam thing
i am very sorry for taking this long 
but if u need to speak to chris he is not around 
any more
he just joined the army 
he has his lap top they let him use
his email is chris6987@fuse.net
if he does not email u back soon dont get mad
u have to under stand what he is doing right now
wit the training fo the army
 
 
but contact him
asap
i am really sorry u amnt got it yet 
and if we cant figure out what is wrong i can refundu your money but it will take a couple week till chris gets back home like 2 months
so very sorry 
Anyone else notice the internet "slang" in bold. Mom must be hip.
If that is his mother, she's got worse grammer than most people I've talked to on the internet...that was hard to read...
I dunno, smells fishy and not in a good way

 
 
Odd that he is "busy wit training fo the army" and that he can check his myspace page today.
 
 
i sure wish i was able to use a computer, or bring my own lap top for that matter when i was in basic training! 
 -Www.IznTrbl.Com-
 
 
Ummmm...
1.  That is Chris's writing its unmistakable
2.  Hes not in the Army nor joining the Army
3.  I hung out with him last weekend and sold him some parts I gathered from a junkyard for his car.
4.  I know he has had 2 carbon fiber trunks in the past 6 months, and I know he just sold one to CrazyNatiCavy like a week ago (Im not saying its yours)
5.  I can't believe Chris is this F#UCking stupid to try and pull this @!#$ and then concoct this whole lie and try to sell it to everyone on the .org
6.  If you doubt whether or not hes around, Im sure PhlatCav can verify he is def. not in training camp.
7.  I considered Chris my friend, but its pretty obvious something very F#cked up is going on here, so if he values my friendship, he will come on her and apologize for what he has done wrong and tell the truth, then rectify the situation with you.  I still haven't heard his side of the story but Im going to find out.
Owen Stampflee wrote:Quote:
this is not chris email 
this is his moms we shipped u your trunk a while ago 
my son to take it to michgan to ship it caise they would not let me ship it out from here cause of the material it was made of... one reason it tokk so long is cause the first time it broke
they would not ship it out again so he had to take it up there and ship it out cause ups did not want to handle it cause the first time 
what i can do it take the recipt that we got from shipping it contact them and see what the hell is going on 
cause i know we shipped it 
casue it cost us 220 to ship the dam thing
i am very sorry for taking this long 
but if u need to speak to chris he is not around 
any more
he just joined the army 
he has his lap top they let him use
his email is chris6987@fuse.net
if he does not email u back soon dont get mad
u have to under stand what he is doing right now
wit the training fo the army
 
 
but contact him
asap
i am really sorry u amnt got it yet 
and if we cant figure out what is wrong i can refundu your money but it will take a couple week till chris gets back home like 2 months
so very sorry 
___________________________________________________________________
 
 
So who wants to go collect my money and/or trunklid... perhaps bring a baseball bat to assist in the cause? 
I'm away on business next week, if this hasnt been resolved in a satisfactory manner by the time I return, I will contact the US postal service inspection agency and press charges.
 
 
There is something to be said for making a post like this to inform other members of a possible problem dealing with someone.  That helps others, that are smart enough to research before buying, not fall victim to the same problems in the future.  There comes a point, however, where a line gets crossed and you need to take things up privately with the person or with the authorities.
Owen Stampflee wrote:So who wants to go collect my money and/or trunklid... perhaps bring a baseball bat to assist in the cause? 
Joking or not, this is now that point.  This is the second time in this thread you mentioned "taking action" against the guy and that is not allowed here.
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