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Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 4:16 AM
Hey guys
I picked up a 1997 Z24 5sp for my son and I to fix up as his first car. Needed a engine. So we swapped it but now were in trouble. I had changed the slave while I was in there cause the old one leaked. Heres my problem. Car runs great. But wont move in all 5 gears. If theres air in the clutch line would the car not move?

Next problem.
If I use the key to start the car all I hear is a click. If I use a wire and go from the + post right on to the starter relay (small post) she fires right up. I see its had some work done in the past. Theres a relay wired between the Bat and starter. Looks like a re-call.... :s

Thanks in advance

Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 6:42 AM
Elaborate... What do you mean it won't move in all 5 gears? As you are driving it you can't get it into all the gears? Which gears does it go in and what does it do when you put it in the other gears or attempt to? As far as bleeding the clutch line... as long as you did bleed it and it is going in gears, and the clutch is working, there is no reason this would prevent you from going into some of the gears. This will really effect your clutch pedal, but not your transmission gears.

As far as the starting issue... If you can manually start her, then that cancels out the starter being the problem, as well as the battery not providing enough juice.. I would say it is related to your ignition. As far as the 'new' wiring/relay, not so sure about that...Someone else's wiring can be a little sketchy. lol.



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Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 7:45 AM
Thanks

It goes into all 5 gears sitting there. In 1st if I go to take off the car won't move.like it sits there reving as if its not in gear at all.

The clutch looked to be in good shape. I wonder if air in that line will affect it :s

Any input it great guys
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 7:59 AM
So the shifter is physically in 1st, and you can feel it go in the gears with the shifter, but the it just revvs and doesnt actually engage?

This is what my SS did when my clutch disk broke -> The clutch disk disconnected from the center piece that the transmission shaft goes through. I could change the trans gears while idling without depressing the clutch pedal. I doubt this is your problem but I kind of know what you are experiencing.

How many miles were on the clutch? Do you know if it was in working order before? It's possible its just revving because it has really bad clutch slip and just can not grip. I don't think it's air in the lines, because if the clutch is doing it's job, and you can only put the car in gear with the clutch pedal depressed.. that should be ok. You could always try bleeding the lines again if you are worried about air being in there. Another suggestion, if you are allowing it to rev up while hitting the gas pedal, would I would personally try, is to see how it reacts if you put it in first, and slowwwwly let out the clutch pedal. If you do it slow enough the car will not stall if it has a good clutch. It should start pulling itself along. Maybe it just has a slick surface and got something against it or the flywheel and you can get it working again with some use.

Im not really sure what else to suggest. Maybe someone else will chime in.



Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 9:13 AM
Not sure how many miles are on the disk but it looked like it had lots of life. I haven't yet bled the clutch. I was wonder if that was the problem :p I can feel all the gears. A little sloppy but there all there. But no the car won't move at all. I can put it in all 5 gears without touching the clutch. Doesn't grind at all. Is there any test or things I can look for?

Thanks
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 9:25 AM
You can put it in all gears without touching the clutch, while idling?



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Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 9:54 AM
Yeppers lol
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 9:57 AM
At this time I should all so add. The reason I thought it was due to air is the line was. If the slave is not appling enough pressure to the pressure plate would it not spin the tranny? Please correct me if I'm wrong
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 10:54 AM
Jazer wrote:You can put it in all gears without touching the clutch, while idling?


lolz



Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 11:46 AM
Idiling or at 5000rpm lol. All 5. That's why I wonder if its the air in that slave.

How do you bleed these? Back in the day you had a nipple like a brake. While the car was idiling you did it like a brake. Sound about right?

Remember guys all 411 goes a long way at this point lol

Thanks
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 3:24 PM
Bump?

Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 5:18 PM
Does the 2.4 have a release bearing? Buddie tells me no. And I never foung one. Does the Slave just press on the pressue plate?

Think I found my problem
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 5:53 PM
does the speedometer move as you put it in gear with the clutch applied? The slave/throwout only applies pressure when you press down on the clutch pedal.



Re: Fixer upper trouble
Monday, April 05, 2010 6:18 PM
Nope nothing. I think im getting some where though. My neighbour was saying they had a Sunfire that had shift linkage trouble. They took it to a tranny shop and they changed the linkage, and the box on top of th tranny where it goes.

Ever heard of this?
Re: Fixer upper trouble
Tuesday, April 06, 2010 6:34 PM
Have you had a second set of eyes under the hood to verify that rowing through the gears inside the car is even doing anything at the transmission? Even tried physically putting it in gear at the transmission?




Re: Fixer upper trouble
Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:07 PM
Kinda sounds like a broken cable. I 2nd the eyes under the hood while someone is in the car shifting the gears to make sure the shifter is actually movign at the transmission.

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