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BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 6:51 PM
Okay a while back I said I would post a video and results of my setup when I got it all together. Here are the specs:

* RK Eco 4-2-1 Header
* RKSport 2 1/4" Catback
* Magnaflow 2 1/4 inch Hiflow Cat w/O2
* 25" - 2 1/4" inch Dynomax Resonator
* Magnaflow Performance Muffler


Bottom of page, here are pics of the exhaust install.
http://www.eurolution.com/data/my03cavy/

Here is the Dyno Sheet, be sure to check out my other mods in the profile. Before N00bs start dissin' this is a Mustang Dyno.




Video Here :
Do not repost link in other forums, I have a limited amount of bandwidth and would like to keep in in Performance forums for now.

http://www.eurolution.com/data/my03cavy/video/BlackEco Exhaust Demo.zip

Comments welcome, would also like to hear from people with similar setups with maybe different resonators and mufflers. Im very happy with this, the resonator toned it way down and smoothed out the sound. Very pleased in the end with everything.





Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:08 PM
why does the graph stop at 5750 rpm when it looks like HP is still increasing? common practice is to dyno an engine all the way to redline...




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Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:17 PM
Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:30 PM
[URL]=http://www.eurolution.com/data/my03cavy/video/BlackEco Exhaust Demo.zip]fixed video link[/URL]

Silly Cinny ...






Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:31 PM
Okay, i owned myself , my fault .






Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:37 PM
Good gains. Nice choices.

Is it just me , or does it sound a little raspy?






Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:42 PM
i would have thought ur gains would have been more. with an intake and full exhaust setup. but congrats on ur gains, mustangs under rate your power a bit anyways dont they?


AkA joe m.

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Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Saturday, August 13, 2005 9:57 PM
trust me it only gets harder

with full exhuast, intake, tb, cams, clutch and flywheel and pulley the most I put down is 149 whp with major ecu issues.. have fun after this



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Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:00 AM
lol we both got owend, did you use the button for making a link too? thats the first time thats happened to me.






Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 7:59 AM
You may be bottlenecking or inverse botlenecking yourself with that resonator.

From my understanding, although the mounting diameters are 2 1/4
The actual inner diameters are all 2" or 2"1/2.

Well, at least from reading this pdf from dynomax's site:

<a href="http://www.dynomax.com/documents/thrushglass.pdf"> Dynomax/Thrush Glasspack</a>

I asume they are the same products, so just a heads up.

-M


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Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 8:19 AM
Sounds great Eric!!!







Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 11:17 AM
Scarab, Peak HP is at 5750, the motor ran to redline which was at 106mph in 4th gear, speed limiter is 109mph I think. The graph just stops at Peak HP, I know it looks like it should keep going up, but I watched the numbers while it was running.

Jersey Kid, Yeah it is a little raspy at times, but I realized the mic on the video camera is only picking up the mid and high end so you aren't hearing what it really sounds like. Any raspiness usually is just at WOT.

BlackNAcavie, Yeah I have been told Mustang Dynos under rate by as much at 15%, Im just really looking for a baseline, Ill take it back to the same place after doing any future mods.

QBE, Hoping to get to near 150 without cams is my goal, Hopefully we get some tuning software *and it rains gold nuggets. Next I want to do a port and polish, oversized valves and bore out my tb. If I did cams I would want something that will be mild enough for the GM SC which is down the road somewhere. All this makes me respect you guys running over 230whp a little more

Mastin, the core must be oversized, I looked in it and inner diameter wasn't less. Thanks for heads up I will check my product # and see what I can figure out.



Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:53 PM
That's real nice ! Who knows how much hp you would've got on a dynojet. I'd say you're close to 145-150 whp on a dyno jet. this means about 175 hp which is quite good.

I can't wait to have my exhaust done.



15.891 @ 88 mph stock, still getting @!#$ty launches...
Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 5:54 PM
oh yeah, red line isn't at 106 in 4th, you're closer to 5500 actually when the fuel cuts. If you want the whole powerband in 4th, I think you have to do the vss mod when you dyno.



15.891 @ 88 mph stock, still getting @!#$ty launches...
Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Sunday, August 14, 2005 9:34 PM
Cinny wrote:lol we both got owend, did you use the button for making a link too? thats the first time thats happened to me.


Ide have to agree, haha .

Also , i wasnt knocking the exhaust at all BlackEco ,sounds pretty mean , it just sucks that video cameras almost always distort the sound somewhat .






Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 5:50 AM
I make about 3 more hp and 7 more fps of torque,

Using weapon R 4-2-1 header, custom 2.5" to an ebay muffler.





Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 5:52 AM
^^^dynojet or mustang dyno, also, can you show us the dyno sheets ?



15.891 @ 88 mph stock, still getting @!#$ty launches...
Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 3:59 PM
Sorry I know this is a stupid question but I can't remember what is the stock hp/tq ratings at the wheel for the eco. I'm trying to see how much he gained lol



Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 4:04 PM
140hp 150tq


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Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 4:06 PM
and that at the crank not the wheels





Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 7:55 PM
i believe 4th gear redlined is around 118? someone can correct me if im wrong.




Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 9:54 PM
i beleive its more than 118 at the wheels. a 22 hp loss from the crank to the wheels? that seems too much. i bet it averages 125-132whp or something. and with the dyno under rating you a bit you have prollie a lil over 140+ at the wheels. cool.

glad i found you on csr, more j's around me


AkA joe m.

Ricer ELIMINATOR!
Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Monday, August 15, 2005 11:53 PM
sorry, shoulda made it more clear. i ment 118mph in 4th gear. lol. wasnt talking about whp.



Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Friday, August 19, 2005 8:52 AM
I know in the LD9 the loss is about 14%. But mustang dynos measure HP at the wheels. Dynojets measure at the crank. The crank is where stock listing of HP comes from



Re: BlackEcos Full Exhaust Setup, Dyno and Video
Friday, August 19, 2005 8:54 AM
^^^that's not true, dynojets measure hp at the wheel too, but unlike mustang dynos, they don't apply resistance to the wheels, and so they are always a bit higher numbers.



15.891 @ 88 mph stock, still getting @!#$ty launches...
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