im building a 2200 eng and im fixing to bye a old block to take to the shop and the guy at the chevy dealer ship told me that the 95-97 2.2l has the same block as the 98-up 2200 .the head is the only difference. is this true ?
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Did you search?
This has been posted tons (if not hundreds) of times-
2.2 History.
just because he probably will not search... NO.
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yes i did search and i still was not 100% sure by what i read there is some differences. but the guy at chevy as i said said it would work and i just wanted to make sure before i sent a block to the machine shop. no need to be a gerk about it . so from your opinion it will not work? right ? i know there is some differences but can you still put the 2200 head on that block and make it work? ive got the 2200 in my car so the wiring isnt a problem . i need to make this decision today .
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jamesn29 wrote:yes i did search and i still was not 100% sure by what i read there is some differences. but the guy at chevy as i said said it would work and i just wanted to make sure before i sent a block to the machine shop. no need to be a gerk about it . so from your opinion it will not work? right ? i know there is some differences but can you still put the 2200 head on that block and make it work? ive got the 2200 in my car so the wiring isnt a problem . i need to make this decision today .
some say yes some say no. with proper modification yes it will work... but as far as your original question, no the 2.2 and the 2200 are not the same block
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While technically no, they can be interchanged. See:
Starting Blocks
All of the 2.2L blocks look pretty similar, but there were some significant differences from year to year, so we have identified the blocks that were originally used each year along with the important features that made them unique.
Some of them can be interchanged if they have the right features, but there are usually plenty of cores available. Its a good idea to stay with the original castings whenever possible to avoid any problems in the field.
1990-91: The original engine used an offset filter adapter for the cars that came with automatic transmissions, so most of the oil filter mounts had three small bolt holes located around the perimeter of the machined oil filter pad.
These blocks were either a 10103566 or a 10068554 casting, but we have seen the 10068554 block without the three holes around the pad.
Rebuilders should use only the drilled blocks for 90 and 91 to ensure that the engine fits every application.
Some of the later castings are drilled for the offset adapter, so they can be used for these early FWD applications, too.
1992-93: The oil filter screwed directly onto a stud in the middle of the pad for both sticks and automatics in 1992, so the three holes for the offset adapter were no longer drilled and tapped.
The 10156012 and the 10156048 castings were used in 92 and 93. The earlier 10068554 casting without the three holes can also be used, but these undrilled, flat tappet blocks were unique to the 1992-93 cars so they cant be used for any other application.
1994-95: There were two major changes made to the 2.2L block in 1994. The new "Generation II" engine came with a roller cam, so two of the cast supports that tied the inner and outer walls of the block together on the pushrod side were machined flat about .390" below the deck surface. They were then drilled and tapped for the bolts that held the two shallow plastic lifter guides.
Five more bolt bosses were also added on the block: two on the left and three on the right.
The two big ones on both sides were there for the RWD motor mounts that were needed because the 2.2L Chevy replaced the 2.5L Pontiac as the base engine for the S-10 pickups in 94.
Look for a 10215666, a 24575396 or a 10141927 casting. All of these later blocks can be used for the 1990-91 FWD cars as long as the three holes for the offset filter adapter are drilled (some are).
They can also be used for all of the 1992-93 FWD cars if you are willing to trade a late core for an early one.
1996: Chevy switched to sequential port fuel injection on the 2.2L in 96, so there is a large open hole with a small threaded one beside it on the passenger side for the cam position sensor that was used to sequence the fuel injectors correctly. The 1996 block, c/n 24574521, still had the shallow (0.390") mounting pads for the early lifter guides, but it can be used up through 1999 as long as the matching lifter guides are provided with the engine.
1997-99: The plastic lifter guide was much thicker in the middle beginning in 1997, so the mounting pads in the block were moved down 0.400".
They were now 0.790" below the deck surface. This block, c/n 24576035, also has one more small bolt boss on the passenger side, but we have never seen it drilled and tapped, so we have chosen to ignore it for now.
The location of the tang on the #3 main bearing was moved in 98, too, so rebuilders will have to notch the block or grind off the tang on the earlier aftermarket bearings that are available so they will fit the block.
This casting can be used in a 96 car or truck as long as the correct lifter guides are installed in the engine.
the only diference i noticed is that the 1995 does not have the cam sensor hole and some sensors does not have the same threads ! otherwise, i belive they are the same...And buy the crank bearings that goes with your year block, otherwise, one of the notch wont fit. Also keep the crank model from your car's year .
thanks for the help i read the post on the history and it seems there is going to be to many changes to make it work like the timing knock on the crank and difference in the lifter guide . all the parts i bought are for the 2200 so ill look for a 2200 block somemore .
13's or blowning it. one way or the other!