i was woundering if anyone has had this same problem, when i start my car in the morning with the Pennsylvania weather we've been having, my car seems like it doesnt have all the balls its supose to have like when its warmed up, my one buddy with a 98 Sunfire GT has the same problem and i just wanted to see we are the only one's or not
are you letting it warm up befre you drive it? or just jumping in starting it and going? if your doing that yoru dumb as hell because the oil hasnt had time to get to the top of the motor or the sides of the piston walls so thats whats making it seem sluggish..... let her warm up for 10-15 minutes at idle and then go...... saves the car in the long run....
warm it up yes, but for 10-15 minutes is not necessary just let it idle for probably over 5 minutes and then go, but take it easy for a bit, dont just get it and rip it.

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hehe yea i usually go for 5-10 minutes or so depends... but i ALWAYS let mine warm up before i drive it......
lol he said his car had no balls ...
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let your car warm up for 5 minutes or 10

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ive heard its bad to let a car wam up by just idle...but to just hop in and drive it...of course nothing hard till it hits Normal operating temps...anyting below 3 g's is the rumor...
to each there own...
SLO CAV (the slo one) wrote:hehe yea i usually go for 5-10 minutes or so depends... but i ALWAYS let mine warm up before i drive it......
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yea i alawys warm my car up about 5 mintues. dpened how cold it is. i let it idle and to a few smal small revs untill the needle starts to rise a bit. even then dont rip your car untill the needle hits its usual position.
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jz wrote:ive heard its bad to let a car wam up by just idle...but to just hop in and drive it...of course nothing hard till it hits Normal operating temps...anyting below 3 g's is the rumor...
to each there own...
You heard wrong. It's worse to start up and drive off when a motor is completely cold. If you HAVE to drive it when it's completely cold because you have to go somewhere, then yes, stay under 3000 RPMs.
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The only reason why they say its "no good" to warm up the engine is because u get 0 miles to the gallon and your running an engine for nothing. BUT, you really are running it to give it a longer life. But generally, once the RPM's drop to there normal range, its safe to start going. This can take 2-5min.
if you've got an eco.
Start it up then wait till the revs of the engine drop down to 1K. At that point your ready to go but still drive it easy till it gets a bit warmer (under 3K).
Until the tach drops to 1K the ecu is automatically feeding more fuel, and holding the engine at a higher rev to essentially warm up the car.
The manual in my 03 also reads to drive the car after the revs have dropped down to 1000.
So thats what I go by.
Never ever rev your engine from a cold start no matter how warm it is outside. Give that oil time to circulate.

-Chris
OK you guys are off the topic!!!!!! Myabe hes talking about the tsb thing for the eco I need to get my eco fixed and my old car 98 sf gt has the same problem!!!!!!
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I let my Eco get to about 900 to 1000 RPM then i go. a few minutes is how long it takes. of course, i live in louisiana now so i dont have to deal with all that extreme cold anymore
i've let my car sit one day till it got to the half way make in the morning and it still did it, i know better then just to start my car and take off even if its 100 degrees out i'll let my car warm up for like 3 to 5 minutes just to let the oil flow through the motor
YEAH i always let my engine warm up for a few minutes even on a hot summer day awhen its 90 degrees out; my girlfriend is always like"what are you waitting for let's go" woman,lol; ladies dont get offeneded, just a joke,,,,,,,,, lol
98 j-body sedan
^^Don't worry, I don't think there's a chance any literate woman would be able to read that, so won't be able to get offended.
On the subject:
This site wrote:
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Once a vehicle is running, the best way to warm it up is to drive it. With computer-controlled, fuel-injected engines, you need no more than 30 seconds of idling on winter days before driving away. Anything more simply wastes fuel and increases emissions.
Besides, more than the engine needs to be warmed up. So do the wheel bearings, steering, suspension, transmission and tires, and that can happen only when the vehicle is moving. For a typical vehicle, it takes at least five kilometres of driving to warm up these components.
Although it is important to drive away as soon as possible after a cold start (but not before the windows are defrosted!), you should avoid high speeds and rapid acceleration for the first five kilometres or so. The goal is to bring the whole vehicle up to peak operating temperature as quickly as possible while maximizing fuel economy.
This site wrote:
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Idling Myths:
Myth #1: "The engine should be warmed up for long periods prior to driving."
Reality: Idling is not an effective way to warm up your engine, even in cold weather. The best way to do this is to drive the vehicle. With today's modern engines, you need no more than 30 seconds of idling on winter days before starting to drive.
Myth #2: "Idling is good for the engine."
Reality: Excessive idling can actually damage engine components, including cylinders, spark plugs, and the exhaust system.
Myth #3: "Shutting off and restarting the vehicle when it's stopped is bad for the engine and uses more gasoline than if you leave it running."
Reality: Frequent restarting has little impact on engine components. Component wear caused by restarting the engine is estimated to add $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that will likely be recovered several times over in fuel savings from reduced idling.
familycar.com wrote:
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Q: Which is better for the vehicle when it is frigid outside? To warm up the vehicle first, or to start it and just drive off?
A: You can just drive off, as long as you do it gently. With today's computerized, fuel injected automobiles it is no longer necessary to warm the vehicle up for any length of time. Start up the car, let the engine stabilize for about 30 seconds so that the oil can circulate, and drive off normally. Avoid hard acceleration until the vehicle has reached operating temperature, about 5 to 8 minutes. In real cold below zero weather, you would want to use a light grade (5w-30) oil so that circulation would be easier.
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thank you, someone posted facts to back up what i was gonna say