1)will a 2.3 ho crank work in a ld9 without machine work to the crank itself?
2)how much overbore can i get without a reflash?
its a 98 2.4 w/ an iceman cai. im goin for an n/a beast. no boost or nitrous.
ANY suggestions are greatly appreciated
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why would you put a 2.3 crank???
the 2.4 is already a stroker version of the 2.3!!
what you can do is put a 2.4 crank into a 2.3 to stroke it, but that aint easy.
No need reflash after overboring.
if you wanna built a n/a beast, start by reading and reading and reading.....
looks like you dont know much about these engine.
oh... and search!
looks like you dont know much about these engines!
1) no balance shafts
2)stronger all around crank
3) shorter stroke means quicker rev
4)no need to mod for the 2.3 oil pump conversion
its a better crank but i think the 2.3 dosent have a crank position sensor, so never mind
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huh... even if you put the 2.3 crank, you will need to mod the block for the pump conversion, so YES, need to mod for the pump conversion, i dont think the crank is stronger than the 2.4.
It s not by changing the crank that you will get rid of the balance shaft.
The crank has a position sensor, its just at a different place. this can be solve but not easely.
oh i see
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If you're not going with boost, then your best bet would be to start with the bolt-ons first. Upper and lower motor mounts, full exhaust (header, cat, piping, resonator, and muffler), pulleys, and throttle body. After you have the basics done, then you can start looking at where you want your power band, and cam profile to sit. As well as your fuel curve and compression ratio.
By the time you have your bolt-ons installed, you should know the weak point in your power curve, and what needs to be changed. Remeber that every motor is different, and so is every driver. I personallu love low end grunt, while others would prefer more top-end power. Also depend on where and how you drive your car. Do you auto-cross, drag, daily driver, ect...
its a daliy driver. i like the low end power of the 2.4 and i want to keep the same power curve just get it closer to 180-200 whp.i already have the upper and lower mounts and an iceman intake.but a buddy of mine has the same car as me with bolt on's and nos, his #3 cylinder is scared up pretty bad though and it kinda runs like @!#$ and he still hands me my ass pretty bad so im just lookin for something to give me some good gains.what would you suggest for an exhaust steup ?i dont plan on spraying just yet
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how much would want to invest in it?
200+whp N/A is what i'm shooting for but could be acheive easier with turbo.
so hwat's your budhet...?
not too high...a grand maybe. thats why ive been researching the 2.3 parts, they are stronger engines and alot of the parts are interchangable. there's a yard near my house
thats full of quad engines and they're dirt cheap (running 4 cyl engine=$107.)
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then i'd suggest the intkae manifold with the TB, and maybe the cams!
if you wanna use the HO intake cam, then you will have to get it machine for the power steering pump and figure out something for the rev limiter, because the power band will be over the stock limiter. But i think you are better of with the secret cams. Maybe the HO crank pulley also, its a bit smaller!
Beside that, there is the 086 head, but need alot of work and money as you will have to change pistons because of too high C/R. also the 2.3 oil pump swap which will require you to tore your engine apart and cost alot for machining too.
for a grand, what i will suggest you is do a full exhaust with 4-2-1 header and 2.25 mendrel bent, high flow cat and muffler, ebay crank pulley or HO pulley. that would cost about a grand in parts an labor and will give you a good low end power.
You wont get near 180whp with a grand!!!
sorry but you don't know anything about those engines. If you knew, you would ask a question like this. you'd know that the 2.3 crank main are 8mm smaller than the 2.4 crank main. You would get around 2.0L of displacement and around 8:1 compression because of the deck you would have created. Also, you'd know more about stroke and bore than just displacement. You would have search and you would have found that the 2.4 stroke & bore is 94mm * 90mm compare to 85mm * 92mm. Witch mean the crank is completly different.
180whp with only a grand? stop dreaming. The only good way would be nitrous. N/A cost money and takes alot of searching and reading. Not just asking question. The only other option would be to swap a complete Ho engine and Ecm, then swap a set of cams and tweak some weak spot(IE: exhaust port).
Knowing that the 2.3 has better parts, is a "better" engine and has no balance shaft is not knowing the engine. Btw, the 95 2.3 had balanced shaft.
Gilles
2.3 Ho
