I guess this could be in either forum, ill give it a try here.
Im stuck on which size cams to go with because ill be N/A for a couple months when I do the engine swap before I boost.
I contacted LMZ performance and the cams they have for the LD9 is just N/A only.

Can I get custom cam that will work for both boost and n/a? Or would it make sense to just go with one or the other?

Ill probably answer my own question here, but should I just contact a machine shop and tell them my delima(sp) to see if they can help me?











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I'm pretty sure it would be best to just go with one because you'll save money. And if you dont mind me asking, why would you get N/A cams when you'd only have them in for a couple of months until you go boosted?

I know its best to just get one, but Thats my question to begin with, is there a cam that will work BOTH n/a and boost? Im not getting an n/a cam if the profile wont work with boost lol.











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Go ask the question on quad4forums.
So far they are the only ones that I know that seem to get it.
If somebody tells you they have turbo cams, or their cams re only good for NA, then you know right awy that they have no idea what they are talking about.
Turbo cams are a scam like those nitrous cams the big manufacturers were selling 20yrs ago. Its just a way for them to sell more cams.
Its all about duration and RPM band. Once you know how much, and what kind of power you want to make, then you can make your cam choice accordingly.
My one turbo car is running 40 degrees more duration than stock, and is still streetable(although I wouldn't recomend it on yours). A performance cam is the single best mod you can make for your turbo, or S/C car. Its all about airflow, and perfornance cams support this very well.

Check out Comp Cams. I know for my ECOTEC they make stage 1,2,3,turbo,supercharger,and full race cams. While looking over there specs I found the supercharger cams had the same intake grind as the stage 1 but the exhaust grind was that of the stage 2. Even tho I'm not supercharged I'm going with the supercharged cams because they have a wider more usefull powerband then either of the NA cams.
And because the stage 1 cams don't require a stand alone or and computer work neither will the supercharged cams because the intake cam is what sets up how the engine runs. All the exhaust does is make sure the gases have plenty of time to leave.




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Ok, hmm im still not really sure yet.. Ill just call comp and talk to someone about my setup.. Maybe they can help me out somehow with my confusion lol..

Thanks guys for your input












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Sorry if I was confuseing. Basicly what I was getting at is that the supercharger cams will work just fine in an NA car and then when you do boost finaly they'll already be there.





Semper Fi SAINT. May you rest in peace.

just because a cam isnt made for N/A doesnt mean its not going to "work" (although i'm not sure what you mean by it) you just will not see the full benefit of the cam/combination untill you apply boost.

the same is said the other way around, its not like the car will not run, but you will not see the full effects of the boost on an N/A cam, there is no real "boost or na" cam, but boost cams normally have tighter overlap specs and a few other doo-dads.

i would say if you plan on boosting, get something for that. its not like the car will not run.


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Jackalope and Manitoba, I get it now lol.. Thats what I wanted to know and you cleared it up for me.
I was also confused about these cam companies saying you dont need any modifcations to the cam housing, and lifters when they have the same or more cam lobe than the HO exhaust cam.. When you use that cam, you have to replace the housing, and lifters.. Ughh. :p











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NOSfly wrote:Go ask the question on quad4forums.
So far they are the only ones that I know that seem to get it.
If somebody tells you they have turbo cams, or their cams re only good for NA, then you know right awy that they have no idea what they are talking about.
Turbo cams are a scam like those nitrous cams the big manufacturers were selling 20yrs ago. Its just a way for them to sell more cams.
Its all about duration and RPM band. Once you know how much, and what kind of power you want to make, then you can make your cam choice accordingly.
My one turbo car is running 40 degrees more duration than stock, and is still streetable(although I wouldn't recomend it on yours). A performance cam is the single best mod you can make for your turbo, or S/C car. Its all about airflow, and perfornance cams support this very well.

I agree with this guy. However, I would like to add that a high performance cam will drain your low-end, and throwing a turbo on top of that will make it seem like the turbo is REALLY lagging. Unless you're building a full-on race car, just stick with the stockers, they work fine with boost as we've seen before.



fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.

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I was also confused about these cam companies saying you dont need any modifcations to the cam housing, and lifters when they have the same or more cam lobe than the HO exhaust cam.. When you use that cam, you have to replace the housing, and lifters.. Ughh. :p

Which cams had more 'cam lobe' than the HO cams?
You can use the HO profile if it is put on the 2.4 core. Its the total lobe height, which will not increase if ground, but slightly decrease. Those stage 1 cams have 12 degrees less duration, and .035" less lift than the HO cams.

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I would like to add that a high performance cam will drain your low-end,

A high performance cam will only hurt lowen power if it is a long duratrion cam. Like I said. You choose a cam based on the RPM band YOU WANT to run. If you want good low end power, you choose a cam based on that.(like a stage one cam with 200-210 duration on our cars)

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Unless you're building a full-on race car, just stick with the stockers, they work fine with boost as we've seen before.

Stock cams have no place in a turbo car. You spend alot of time, money, and energy to turbo your car. Why restrict it with stock, very restrictive cams?
Even the HO cams are a nice mild perf. cam, and perfect for a daily driver turbo car.

NOSfly wrote:A high performance cam will only hurt lowen power if it is a long duratrion cam. Like I said. You choose a cam based on the RPM band YOU WANT to run. If you want good low end power, you choose a cam based on that.(like a stage one cam with 200-210 duration on our cars)

I would consider that a performance cam, but not 'high-performance'. IMO a high-performance cam would be useless with out rev limiter.

NOSfly wrote:Stock cams have no place in a turbo car. You spend alot of time, money, and energy to turbo your car. Why restrict it with stock, very restrictive cams?
Even the HO cams are a nice mild perf. cam, and perfect for a daily driver turbo car.

You kidding? My first turbo set was done in a weekend for <$500 lol.
If you're not going to be tearing your engine down for other things, I wouldn't do it just to swap out cams. If the engine will be apart anyway, then by all means throw some 'secret' cams in there. However, I come from LN2 land where we can't pull 'performance' cams from the junkyard, and we have to do more than pull off our timing and valve covers to swap cams.



fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.

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If you're not going to be tearing your engine down for other things, I wouldn't do it just to swap out cams.

Don't knock it till you try it.
There is NO better mod you can do for your turbo car. Do it once, and you'll never run stock cams again. I gaurantee it

Well, I guess I'll find out soon enough. Although, I really won't have anything to compare it to since the engine wasn't tuned very well before.



fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.