Has anyone put a two step rev limiter on a cavalier and if so where can i get on for my car
I know MSD makes them. I'm unsure how that would work with the MSD setup some people have on their cars, but I would start looking there.
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do you any one with them on cavaliers
I know the dis-2 has one as a function.
Blew it up, build numbers coming soon
Is the 2 step to set you up at the line for boost?
If you have the 95 ecm, i can show you how to mod your ecm for flash, then send you what i have for ecm files. Right now, if you can tap into the park/neutral switch i can set you up for a 2 step switch via the pcm on the 95 pcm.
ummmmm, explain to me why someone with a practically stock OHV, who plans on turboing it, and then swapping to an eco (why you'd turbo an ohv and then swap to eco i don't understand, or why you'd touch Maximum Boost with a 40 foot pole for that matter)..... wants a 2 step? Do you want your car to sound cool at the line and hopefully scare away the mustang before it hands you your ass?
Arrival Blue 04 LS Sport
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Hey man did he ever ask you about your opinion? I didnt think so. So take that @!#$ somewhere else cause all he asked was if there was a way. If he wants to put a 2 step limiter on his car let him. Oh and as far as coming on a J-body website and talking @!#$ about j's isnt very smart.
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David
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this dude is just mad because he drives a bug, get off a jbody web site with a bug and ur prob. one of those big head kids that thinks there car is the most bad A%$ thing on the planet and drives like paul walker get a life and stop trying to bring people down because u suck a life
First off, i'm not "pissed off" that I drive a bug. Secondly, that bug is probably a good 4-5 seconds faster in the 1/4 than your car, and it doesn't come anywhere close to needing a 2 step limiter.
Thirdly, jackass, I have a J, which will eventually have some form of launch control because it will NEED it. Try again next time. As for talking trash about J's i don't see where I did that but go ahead and get your panties in a bunch because I was absolutely right with what I posted. You still haven't answered the question... why do you think you need a 2 step? Calling me a Paul Walker wannabe when you might as well be getting NAWZ(the big bottle, two of em) and blowing your floorpan out if you think you need a 2 step.
Even asking about a 2 step for an ohv that isn't turboed and doesn't have a seriously built motor is ridiculous. Go back to the n00b forum and try again.
Arrival Blue 04 LS Sport
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for a good launch queer bait u dont need a turbo or no ridiculous n/a motor for a two step and another thing u have been on here since 04 and u just bought a J like within the last week or 2 come on now man there was no need to be a mr hot shot and come on this thread and act all hard and callin me a noob i have built more cars in my 18 years of living then u will do in a life time and u built a bug
MSD dis-2 has it as a feature. But I'm still unsure on why you would need it. The money used on it could be put to better use for the track like more performance mods, suspension mods, or slicks. One of those would yield faster runs than the two stage limiter. The only thing it would do is provide more consistant runs if you're not able to hold the throttle at x rpm.
Blue Cav wrote:for a good launch queer bait u dont need a turbo or no ridiculous n/a motor for a two step and another thing u have been on here since 04 and u just bought a J like within the last week or 2 come on now man there was no need to be a mr hot shot and come on this thread and act all hard and callin me a noob i have built more cars in my 18 years of living then u will do in a life time and u built a bug
do you not get it yet? YOU DON"T HAVE ANYWHERE IN ANY WAY NEAR ENOUGH POWER TO NEED ANY MORE ADVANCED LAUNCH CONTROL THAN YOUR RIGHT FOOT. do you understand yet? or do i have to go into detail about how much money you're going to spend on an igntion system with launch control that won't make you go any faster in the 1/4? Have you even raced the car yet?
Arrival Blue 04 LS Sport
Eco
Turbo
Megasquirt
'Nuff said
Scarab you are an @!#$. there is no reason for you to knock this guys car. yea there may be no reason for him to need the 2 step limiter but if thats what he wants then let him get it. there is no reason for your being an ass to him. So take your beetle and drive it straight up your ass ok?
Later
David
I need photoshop...cause its time for a new sig
^^These two morons need to be banned...they're wasting space that could be used by REAL ohv threads
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
Scarab has been here a long time, and has always helped me when I owned a cavalier, the only real reason I am still here is because of my preimum membership. Noobs need to go back to the noob forum, and ask you stupid little questions there. I'm almost positive that some of the faster J-Bodies on this website don't have a 2 stage rev-limiter.
Go Premium, it builds character!
thats still no reason to burn on someone i thought this forum was for jbody owners to help other J owners not burn them for a question man i would hate to sit at his dinner table at night and thanks dave people on here make you wanna burn your car, video tape and post it i thank that would make all these asses happy, screw this i am getting a honda
scarab your a dumbass! you have a @!#$ bug and until any of us see this j that NEEDS launch control shut the @#$% up or help the man out ! the only few j's that actually need the launch control are people like Karo (killer car) and raven (3.8 swap that kicks ass and im hoping to do before i grow old and cenile and can still have some fun with the car) among a few others. dam it i hate it when people like you come and cause @!#$ storms over things that are really none of your business
Whats up people?
i'm going to put my .02 in on this...
You are waisting your cash on a two-step system unless you NEED solid accurate consistant launches everytime (eg. you bracket race and are in the points standings) for just some person heading out to the track to play at a test and tune, its a waist of your time and cash. so i cannot say a two-step system is pointless but i cannot say its a good thing to add either...
dont really know much about your car, but unless your in the 12's i would spend the cash elsewhere.
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And even ppl in the 12s didnt need teh launch control. I dont even need to mention names because you should know who they are!
btw ibtl..............
Blue Cav wrote:thats still no reason to burn on someone i thought this forum was for jbody owners to help other J owners not burn them for a question man i would hate to sit at his dinner table at night and thanks dave people on here make you wanna burn your car, video tape and post it i thank that would make all these asses happy, screw this i am getting a honda
good go make honda owners look worse instead of j-bodies... If you're that damn sensitive about people's opinions then don't post in a public forum where people are free to express them. Suck it up.
Arrival Blue 04 LS Sport
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javis hildebrand wrote:scarab your a dumbass! you have a @!#$ bug and until any of us see this j that NEEDS launch control shut the @#$% up or help the man out ! the only few j's that actually need the launch control are people like Karo (killer car) and raven (3.8 swap that kicks ass and im hoping to do before i grow old and cenile and can still have some fun with the car) among a few others. dam it i hate it when people like you come and cause @!#$ storms over things that are really none of your business
so i'm a dumbass, but then the you agree with me that this guy doesn't need launch control, but then you say i should help him out? Which is it genius? I'm not here to babysit people and this isn't kindergarten. Someone asks a dumb question, then i'm gonna call it as I see it. None of my business? If i interrupted an IM between this guy and someone else, then it wouldn't be my business. He posted it in an open forum, thus opening it for @!#$s like me to say something about it. In the end the guy would see that despite the fact that i'm not holding his hand telling him that everythings going to be ok, that i'm still giving him good advice before he wastes his money. If someone's opinion on a forum really bothers you that much i think thats pretty frickin funny.
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Scarab you are an @!#$. there is no reason for you to knock this guys car.
And where did I knock his car? What, because i said his practically STOCK OHV is slow? Thats not a knock, thats the truth, plain and simple. NO ohv that i've seen with simple bolt ons has ever gone faster than low 16's, and that doesn't qualify as anything but slow.
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yea there may be no reason for him to need the 2 step limiter but if thats what he wants then let him get it.
Ok, so i'm simultaneously being told that this forum is for helping people, but that I should blow sunshine up your buddies ass and help him make a modification that is essentially a TOTAL waste of money for someone at his current level? Thats not helping him. My advice doesn't always come with a little pretty pink bow on it, but if you'd quit being such a whiny bitch you'd see that 90% of the time its still pretty damn good advice. I really like how not a single one of the people arguing with me about this has any power mods more advanced than an intake and exhaust, nor a timeslip in there registry, but still want to somehow tell me that I know nothing. You show up to any track, anywhere, using a 2 step to run a 16 second time, and people will laugh at you so hard their sides will split. You don't get a 2 step before you get better tires. But what do I know, I spent a year and a half actually racing twice a week and running relatively fast times for a 4 cylinder... I guess you guys with no slips to show and your wicked intake/exhaust combos must be superior
Arrival Blue 04 LS Sport
Eco
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Megasquirt
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Well, I was using the 2-step through the MSD DIS-2 on my 2.2. At first I had the MSD to pull about 15-17 degrees of timing at about 4500 rpm. The car was about to build right around 10psi just on the two step at around 4500-4800. I was probably pulling too much timing because the car would bog a little bit when I tried to launch.
After messing around with it for a little bit, I set the MSD to pull out about 10 degrees of timing at 5200 rpm with around 8psi of boost. I would launch the car with the slicks at about 5400-5500 rpm with around 8psi. Apparently the two step worked because the slicks spun through first gear and made the SPEC Stage 4 clutch with a unsprung disk slip through 2nd gear.
Without the 2 step, I would launch the little ol' 2.2 pushrod at 5,000 rpm.
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13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
I have the 2 step on my 2200 Beast lol/ Its a good Feature to have. It helps build boost with the guys who have stick since we don't have Torque converters and cant brake launch.
It doesn't make alot, but helps keep your launches the same everytime.
BTW stop fighting like a bunch of HIGHSCHOOL Girls. lol
Blu.... If you have the DIS-4 installed per your mods, it has a two step built in it.
Run the single wire to a grounded button on the shifter, or a micro switch on your clutch pedal.
I have mine wired in series through both, so it only gets activated when the clutch is in and the button is pressed.
I wouldn't drag race a 5 speed car without two step, but that's me. It allows total focus on the tree.
