hey guys i was just wondering if i should just stay wih my 2200 motor tune that motor up all the way or swap to a 2.4 twin cam people say twin cam has more problems
its really up to you man..which way to you wwanna go with it?? if you just wanna prove that your 2200 can be faster than other cars than build it and boost it!! i personally wanted an all motor monster,so i had a quad built from the ground up..so tell us,whats your goal with the car?
Honestly, you don't seem to have much of a clue. Just pick up a JTuners turbo kit and be satisfied w/ 200whp.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
If you are interested, I have a used set of Venolia 9:1 compression forged pistons, Eagle rods, and a ported & polished 2200 with SI stainless steel valves for sale.
275hp & 306tq - 1999 2.2 ohv
13.2 @ 108 mph
-1996 2.4 liter + Turbo + Built motor + Torco + More boost = Lots o' Power
-2000 Mustang GT + 2004 Cobra motor, Whipple 2.3 supercharger,
built rear-end,Dodge Viper spec T56 6 speed, bolt-ons = wheelies at the track!!!!!
if your going to swap I would say go ecotec
they are a lighter motor, produce comparable power to a 2.4, and are an easire swap if you have an obd2 car
both the 2.4 and eco respond better to bolt-ons than the 2200 but when no2 and boost come into play it becomes anyones game
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when you beat someone in a civic people wine and make excuses
when you beat someone in a cavalier they pull over and check under thier hoods
hey how much u want those parts for
go eco man in my experience of selling sadly the older 2.4's cost more than an eco swap now a days. If you want to do a swap LMK and ill give you a price. PM me though.
im interested in an eco swap, went to the local dealer, they told me a 2.2 eco with no head, no manfiolds, and a tranny would cost me 6800 + tax.
NUTCASE . wrote:if your going to swap I would say go ecotec
they are a lighter motor, produce comparable power to a 2.4, and are an easire swap if you have an obd2 car
both the 2.4 and eco respond better to bolt-ons than the 2200 but when no2 and boost come into play it becomes anyones game
^^^obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
^^ Yeah, wouldn't a 2.4 be an easier swap in a 98-02 car since the Eco didn't come in it as an option?
I have a 2002 and was considering a 2.4L swap later for ease of swap alone. What's this talk about the 2.4L swap costing more? Wouldn't the cost of the Eco alone cost more than the entire 2.4 swap?
2000+ go eco cause its all simply bolt up pretty much
95-99 too much work... build a 2200 or swap in a 2.4
Earl , AKA: Eddie wrote:^^ Yeah, wouldn't a 2.4 be an easier swap in a 98-02 car since the Eco didn't come in it as an option?
and someone else doesnt no nething..... dude r u serious? in the 98- 02 sunfire u could get either a 2.2l eco of a 2.2l (2200) engine. In most coupes was a 2.2l eco.... so idk wat ur talkn about....
and far as i know i had the idea of puttin a 2.4l eco into my car but the set up for the 2.4eco is totaly diff then the 2.2l from whom i talkd to and learnd from. it wont work simply.
G Russ wrote:
and someone else doesnt no nething..... dude r u serious? in the 98- 02 sunfire u could get either a 2.2l eco of a 2.2l (2200) engine. In most coupes was a 2.2l eco.... so idk wat ur talkn about....
and far as i know i had the idea of puttin a 2.4l eco into my car but the set up for the 2.4eco is totaly diff then the 2.2l from whom i talkd to and learnd from. it wont work simply.
the first place where you went wrong was when you said "it simply won't work" wrong attitude
believe it or not the Eco and the 2200 bear more similarities as far as wiring, and what goes where than the 2200 and the 2.4.
remember, all 3rd gens and pretty much the same under the hood. just gotta keep in account with the Eco you gotta have the Eco trans to go with it cause the bolt pattern is different. if I'm not mistaken all you need to actually fabricate to go from 2200 to Eco are the connections from the feul line to the motor and you will need to make longer power steering lines. assuming you know what you are doing everything else can pretty much be bought or pilfered of a donor car
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when you beat someone in a civic people wine and make excuses
when you beat someone in a cavalier they pull over and check under thier hoods
yea well it doesnt effect me much ne ways... i honestly dont care cuz im just gonna get a 2.2l eco and drop it in, besides i no itll work just fine
G Russ wrote:Earl , AKA: Eddie wrote:^^ Yeah, wouldn't a 2.4 be an easier swap in a 98-02 car since the Eco didn't come in it as an option?
and someone else doesnt no nething..... dude r u serious? in the 98- 02 sunfire u could get either a 2.2l eco of a 2.2l (2200) engine. In most coupes was a 2.2l eco.... so idk wat ur talkn about....
and far as i know i had the idea of puttin a 2.4l eco into my car but the set up for the 2.4eco is totaly diff then the 2.2l from whom i talkd to and learnd from. it wont work simply.
^^^almost as clueless as NUTCASE. But, go ahead and 'drop it in', because with that line right there is is very apparent to everyone reading that you'll never even border on making that a reality.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
...... ok so who knows nuttin?????? me and nutcase and earl?
cuz im talkn about a 2.4l eco the new engine... not just a 2.4l i no one will fit and y cant i put a 2.2l eco in my car?
G Russ wrote:Earl , AKA: Eddie wrote:^^ Yeah, wouldn't a 2.4 be an easier swap in a 98-02 car since the Eco didn't come in it as an option?
and someone else doesnt no nething..... dude r u serious? in the 98- 02 sunfire u could get either a 2.2l eco of a 2.2l (2200) engine. In most coupes was a 2.2l eco.... so idk wat ur talkn about....
and far as i know i had the idea of puttin a 2.4l eco into my car but the set up for the 2.4eco is totaly diff then the 2.2l from whom i talkd to and learnd from. it wont work simply.
^^^almost as clueless as NUTCASE. But, go ahead and 'drop it in', because with that line right there is is very apparent to everyone reading that you'll never even border on making that a reality.
Back to JBO basics:
95: 2.2L or 2.3L QUAD4 - OBD1
96-97: 2.2L or 2.4L QUAD4 - OBD2
98-99: 2200 or 2.4L
00-01: 2200 or 2.4L w/ new wiring (BCM)
02: 2200 or 2.2L ECO w/ new wiring
03+: 2.2L ECO
*note: the wiring years may be a tad off, but close none-the-less, and definately close enough to clear up the eco swap misconceptions presented in this thread thus far.
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
o so i would have to wire it diff.... i apologize then i didnt relize that and hadnt heard that. thnx for clearifyin that for me...now i understand a 2.4l will work then from a 98 or 99.. right?
YOUR easiest swap is a 2.2L ECO (came in 02+ Js)
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
So.............In a 02 2200/Eco swap I can't use the same trans? It's late. Sorry.
Adler wrote:If you are interested, I have a used set of Venolia 9:1 compression forged pistons, Eagle rods, and a ported & polished 2200 with SI stainless steel valves for sale.
Adler I hit you about the head and rods man! haha PM me back or something!
N2O + Bolt-ons
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250Tq
Coming Soon:HpTunersPro, EagleConnectingRods, WiescoPistons, 13sec2200
just f.y.i., the 02 J's did have the 2.4 in them as well.
Desert Tuners
“When you come across a big kettle of crazy, it’s best not to stir it.”
so..............which would be the easiest and which swap would be the cheapest for a 2002? 2200 to 2.4L? Or 2200 to Eco?
Honest opinions guys.
Cheapest swap=?
Easiest swap=?
Let the fight begin.
