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Water up the intake?
Saturday, July 08, 2006 5:55 PM
Hey guys,
I have never had this problem before, but we had a rain storm here tonight and i was driving home from work. I have an AEM CAI where the filter sits in the fender. I ran over a couple puddles, and my car suddenly stopped going... I stopped and let my car sit @ idle, and then I was eventually ok to drive again. Aways up the road, I hit puddles again, and the same thing happened, only it died this time. I turned off the car, and started it back up, reving the engine. Eventually, it was ok to drive again... I parked the car at a nearby parking lot, and I am going to go get it later...


Will everything be ok, you think? Or will there be problems?


c.

Re: Water up the intake?
Saturday, July 08, 2006 6:33 PM
Before I parked the car, it ran fine to where I have it parked now. Will it be ok?

thanks,
chris
Re: Water up the intake?
Saturday, July 08, 2006 7:20 PM
Sounds more like some sort of electrical problem than getting water in the intake. If you hydrolocked the motor, it wouldnt start back up.





Re: Water up the intake?
Saturday, July 08, 2006 8:42 PM
Ok...

I just went back to get my car. Started up just fine. What else could it be? I also saw a @!#$ load of smoke comin out the tail pipe when it was dying.


thanks,
c.
Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 4:33 AM
Well not sure what killed it, but the water will clean the inside very well, check out hydro/alcohol injection for info on that.

The smoke was probably vaporized water.

Not sure why your motor died, usually a hydrolocked motor wont start back up at all, so it cant be that.

Have your electrical checked, my ecm plugs were getting wet last year,and weren't sealed up right and this caused my engine to die like that, as the water would short connections.
Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:32 AM
Water wont clean your intake, the alcohol injection will... And if you have enough water in your engine to stall it out, or even CLOSE to that much water, you got some serious problems.

On top of that, if you get water in your engine and turn it off immediately, what do you think that is gunna do to your cylinder walls?

Glad to hear everything is working again though.


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Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:37 AM
I've had that issue before, I think you just got your computer in the left fender wet. Smokes like a bitch, drives like a hog. But mine was bad for 30min or so.


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Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 8:40 AM
check your alternator and belts, if you hit puddles typically your getting water on your alt or your belts are slipping when your engine decided to die.


-Chris

Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:42 AM
ive had the same problem too...i think it was a bag plug for me or maybe a wire...phil
Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 10:26 AM
get the bypass that aem has , it should stop it from happning

if its the water getting to the air filter , im guessing you were getting just enough water to cause the stumble or stall


another thing would have been to undo the rubber flex between the plastic pipe and the aluminum pipe


and its not the pcm his is up on the strut tower he has a 03 eco







Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 12:13 PM
Hey guys,
Last night, after I drove the car home. I removed the filter and brought it in to dry. I just put it back on and it drives fine. I checked the oil for any water, and I didn't see any, but how are you supposed to tell, and should I be driving it?

Thanks,
Chris

Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 1:36 PM
Chris Osborn wrote:Hey guys,
Last night, after I drove the car home. I removed the filter and brought it in to dry. I just put it back on and it drives fine. I checked the oil for any water, and I didn't see any, but how are you supposed to tell, and should I be driving it?

Thanks,
Chris


You should be fine.

i noticed above a poster said water doesnt clean your intake. Actually it doesnt but at full running heat, water will clean the inside of a motor, in water injection the first time you spray, and get all that black smoke. Thats the water cleaning the walls.

Next time, if it does this again, i would check and see if for some reason your intake isnt fully sinking into the water, usually they dont suck enough water up in them to kill a motor, but if you go through a puddle and fully submerge your filter, it can happen.

We had a turbo'd hyundai that sucked in enough water to bog it out, the guy behind him noticed a big black puff of smoke. When we got it back to the guys house, he pulled out a sparkplug and looked in the cylinder. It was shiney and clean.
Re: Water up the intake?
Sunday, July 09, 2006 11:09 PM
C Smyth wrote:
Chris Osborn wrote:Hey guys,
Last night, after I drove the car home. I removed the filter and brought it in to dry. I just put it back on and it drives fine. I checked the oil for any water, and I didn't see any, but how are you supposed to tell, and should I be driving it?

Thanks,
Chris


You should be fine.

i noticed above a poster said water doesnt clean your intake. Actually it doesnt but at full running heat, water will clean the inside of a motor, in water injection the first time you spray, and get all that black smoke. Thats the water cleaning the walls.

Next time, if it does this again, i would check and see if for some reason your intake isnt fully sinking into the water, usually they dont suck enough water up in them to kill a motor, but if you go through a puddle and fully submerge your filter, it can happen.

We had a turbo'd hyundai that sucked in enough water to bog it out, the guy behind him noticed a big black puff of smoke. When we got it back to the guys house, he pulled out a sparkplug and looked in the cylinder. It was shiney and clean.


True. That's the trick to cleaning out the inside of your motor, use water in spray bottle, and spray it into the throttle body/carb on a hot motor. Out comes the black smoke.

Chris, you didnt get much if any water into the engine. So it's most likely just fine. If you sucked in a lot of water you would have hydrolocked the engine. This would have slammed the motor to a stop, possibly breaking connecting rods in the process. The engine also, likely would not have cranked until you gave it a way to relieve the pressure (water does not compress like air and fuel) That would be done by pulling the plugs, then cranking it. Thats why I took a guess at an electrical problem. I did see a post suggesting that you got enough water to make it stall. That does make sense, and if the filter is wet, it's going to make it hard for the engine to pull air. If you're a smoker, you'd probably associate that with trying to smoke a cigarette with a wet filter. It takes more work to smoke that way.

Let the filter get completely dry, or possibly just change it. If it happens again, I'd look farther into the issue, but I wouldnt worry about it for now.





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