What does a bone stock 2.4 dohc get to the wheels at best?
about 130. give or take like firebug said
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127-135 stock HP, from www.quad4forums.com write up on the 2.3 hybrid head swap. Thats the average the shop that did the write up has seen at the wheels on stock LD9's.
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thats not to bad to work from....whats the most you have seen somone make out of the 2.4s...iv talked toa guy who said he can get me 350hp with a big turbo an lots of tunning and all ner internals an whatnot....i guess ill be into this motor for alot of money when im done ...then all there will be left to do it blow it up...thats pritty much the idea...make tons of power...run it on the 1/4mile...and wait till she goes boom. Awww i love it.
the highest N/A was arond 230 i think. i dont remember if it was a streetable car. i dont think it was.
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230 hp is "all" Karo made? Was it so fast b/c it was stripped and just a drag car?
In my head i hope to get about that some day N/A, but things like a wedding and stuff might get in the way of my long term plans.
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Karo's engine made 240hp N/A out of the 2.4, to the wheels...... On a 100shot I believe he made 360hp? I forget the exact amount at the moment.
My mild build put down 171hp to the wheels.
Mike Karas put down 410hp(?) to the wheels on his built/turbo 2.4
As others have said, stock 2.4's put down 125-140ish to the wheels (lower for auto, slightly higher for 5 speeds)
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SPD RCR Z -
'02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT -
'04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI -
'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
well right now im planing a pritty goodbuild...turbo..,,internals...Oil system upgrade...fuel system upgrade...almost everything i can think of an som,e more.....i wanna see what i can make for power...just trying to plan the turbo setup right now...not 100% sure what i wanna go with.
Karo's 2.4 made 259 whp N/A (all motor) on a 100% streetable motor.
- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
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hmmm...... I could have sworn it was 240/360, but I've been known to be wrong
either way, its alot of HP from a 2.4
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'02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT -
'04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI -
'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
Im going to try for 300+ hp turbo helped...and it will be street drivin but also drivin on the track....id realy like to make 350hp, see what kinda track times i can make.
Hope to have the car ready for the track for maybe end of summer 2007.
- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
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Thats a nice and linear power curve. Anyone know the details of his build. I really want something like 225 or 250 all motor and streetable if i can some day. I thought the 086 head was pretty much the only way with all the talk about how restrictive it is, but i know Karo did it on the 2.4 head. Please any help would be great.
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thank you, I shall not get that mixed up next time
SPD RCR Z -
'02 Z24 420whp
SLO GOAT -
'04 GTO 305whp
W41 BOI -
'78 Buick Opel Isuzu W41 Swap
Shawn McKenzie wrote:Thats a nice and linear power curve. Anyone know the details of his build. I really want something like 225 or 250 all motor and streetable if i can some day. I thought the 086 head was pretty much the only way with all the talk about how restrictive it is, but i know Karo did it on the 2.4 head. Please any help would be great.
Block - align honed- decked- modified oil passages- bored 0.040 over
Crank shaft- reground- removed casting marks- edged and balanced
Miller Performance oil pan
ARP studs and bolts for the head
main caps and connecting rods
Clevite 77 Main Bearings
Clevite 77 rod Bearings
Wiseco 91mm Piston Rings
Wiseco Chrome-Moly Wrist Pins
Eagle forged 4340 H-Beam connecting rods (balanced)
Removed balance shafts
2.3 oil pump conversion
Wiseco forged pistons .040 overbore (balanced)
10.5:1 compression
MSD dis 2 programable
Accell adjustable fuel pressure regulator
RC Engineering 320cc injectors
Miller Performance ported and polished head
3 angle valve job
CarCustoms Forged stainless steel valves
Mantapart Bronze valve guides
Miller Performance intake cam
Miller Performance exhaust cam
UR crank pulley
Spec flywheel and clutch
2.3L HO intake manifold welded- machined and port matched
75 mm throttle body
Custom stainless header
CarCustoms upper engine mount insert
CarCustoms lower engine mount
GM A/C Eliminator pulley Part # 24574519
Removed power steering
OBD1 conversion with custom chip
Apexi S-AFC
I think that covers it.
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- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
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nice built...lots of work.
Engine Modifications:
2.3 HO Ported Intake Manifold
Accell 92-96 Corvette LT1 Adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator
Apexi Super AFC
ARP Head Studs
ARP Main Studs
Blueprinted Engine
Balanced Engine
Car Customs Upper Engine Mount Insert
Car Customs Lower Engine Mount
Car Customs Stainless Steel Competition Intake Valves
Car Customs Stainless Steel Competition Exhaust Valves
Car Customs Competition Valve Springs
Car Customs 75mm Throttle Body
Car Customs 4 Inch Race Intake System
Car Customs 4-1 Header 1 Ύ Inch Primaries 3 Inch Down Pipe
Clevite 77 Rod Bearings
Clevite 77 Main Bearings
Eagle Forged Connecting Rods
Holley 255 LHP High Output Fuel Pump
Miller Performance Port & Polish Head
Miller Performance Gear Driven Oil Pump
Miller Performance 2.4L LD9 Competition Crank
Miller Performance 75mm Throttle Body Flange
Miller Performance Competition Oil Pan
Miller Performance Crank Gear
Miller Performance Competition Prep Block
Miller Performance Competition Intake Cam
Miller Performance Competition Exhaust Cam
Miller Performance Exhaust Lifters
Miller Performance Intake Lifters
Miller Performance Exhaust Cam Tower
Miller Performance Intake Cam Tower
MSD DIS II Programmable
NGK TR6 Spark Plugs
Nitrous Express Single EFI Nitrous Kit
Nitrous Express Gen X II Kit
ORinged Block
OBD-1 Computer Conversion
W41 Racing Chip
Pro Precision Billet Nitrous Bottle Bracket
RC Engineering 320cc Injectors
SCE Gaskets Copper Head Gasket .060 Thick
SPEC Custom Competition Clutch Kit
SPEC 8.8 LBS Billet Aluminum Flywheel
Unorthodox Crank Pulley
Venom Fuel Rail
Wiseco 10.5:1 Compression Forged Pistons
Wiseco 91mm Piston Rings
Wiseco Chrome-Moly Wrist Pins
Transmission Modifications:
B&M Racing Short Throw Shifter
Cryo-Treated Gears
Cryo-Treated Transmission Case
Drive Shaft Shop Stage II Axles
Miller Performance Built Racing Transmission
Quaife Limited Slip Deferential
Suspension Modifications:
ARP Competition Wheel Studs
Car Customs Sub Frame Brace
Car Customs Control Arm Bushing
Car Customs Rear Strut Tower Brace
Ground Control Custom Rear Coil Over System
Ground Control Custom Front Coil Over System
Koni Reds Custom Drag Racing Front Struts
Koni Reds Custom Drag Racing Rear Shocks
Polyurethane Front End Link Bushings
Polyurethane Rear End Link Bushings
Monro Front Strut Mount
Monro Rear Strut Mount
Brake Modifications:
Power Stop Cross Drilled Front Rotors
Power Stop Extreme Performance Front Brake Pads
Wheels:
Bogart Front Racing Rims 15x8
Bogart Rear Racing Rims 15x3.5
Mickey Thompson Racing Slicks 24.5x8x15
Mickey Thompson Racing Skinny Slicks 25x4x15
Interior Modifications:
Autometer Phantom 2 1/16 Oil Pressure Gauge
Autometer Phantom 2 1/16 Nitrous Pressure Gauge
Autometer Phantom 2 1/16 Exhaust Temperature Gauge
Autometer Phantom 2 1/16 Fuel Pressure Guage
Auto Power Roll Cage Camera Mount
Bullet Fabrication NHRA Legal Chromeoly 6 Point Bar
LoTek 3 Gauge A Piller
RCI 5 Point Cam Lock Harness
Sparco Pro 2000 Driver Racing Seat
Exterior Modifications:
Aerogear Predator 6 Vent Fiberglass Hood
Car Customs Lexan Driver Side Window
Car Customs Laxan Passenger Size Window
Spyder Automotive Fiberglass Truck Lid
That is the list of modification he had. that's directly from Karo.
Gilles
2.3 Ho
That list is pretty out dated concerning the mods to the rest of the car, which doesn't really concern this post anyway.
- 93 mph in the 1/8 mile
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I just copied and paste the list Karo gave in the old days.
Gilles
2.3 Ho
I didn't know Miller Performance made all that stuff for our cars. All their website lists is the oil pan and some numatic hood supports. Was it custom work for Karo or just stuff they don't offer any more?
Anyone have or want to share the specs on the cams?
Just trying to get a referance for stuff I have been looking at.
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