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Secret cam role call
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:15 PM
Im looking for some input on the secret cams. what do you guys think. what kind of power does it add and is it worth it.

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Re: Secret cam role call
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:04 PM
i sure hope so, i've bought the set, it's on the way as we speak.

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Re: Secret cam role call
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:27 PM
Definitely worth it


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Re: Secret cam role call
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:30 PM
the cams cost nothing, its installing that hurts. shops here in Canada want around 400 to 580 to do the install . NOT including gaskets... and other parts. I noticed a great high end gain past 3500 rpm. MIxed with a full exaust, + the Lo mani and 56mm tb it was a HUGE difference.



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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 6:33 AM
I like mine











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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:16 AM
love them!!! get yourself a haynes or chiltons, the gaskets, and anything else you think you need i used the cam lube stuff, and the cams of course and do it



Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:44 AM
I didnt feel much.. same number at the track.... the only thing i felt was a weaker take off and a bit better top end (meaning 30 - 70) what the cams deduct from low rpm's it makes up in top end... but it comes out to be equal i think.. and our 2.4l's arnt known for good top end either , mine outshined alot of other 4 bangers off the line but that changed a bit now .
Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:53 AM
installing them is pretty simple if you have a jack, 2 jack stands, 10,13,15,18, 30mm sockets, pulley puller, 2ea. 3/8" aligning dowls, and about 4-5 hours. As far as gaskets go, you can reuse them, just make sure the engine is completely cold before you start the swap, and torque everything to spec with a torque wrench... and use loc-tite on the cam gear bolts.. pretty simple if you are willing to try it.


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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:01 PM
heres a better question, has anyone compared these to a set of aftermarket cams???



Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 12:12 PM
^^ no, no one has ever done a dyno before/after, or compairing these cams to others with identical setups... couple of peeople have tried setuping up a "donataion" based dyno run, but no one wants to helps... so doubtful it will ever happen.


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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:28 PM
The cams are almost identical to the JBP cams which dynoed 22 WHP or something.

My car has the cam swap, I am not a big fan, did not see a difference but that could be for a lot of reasons. I am having boost issues with my car so that could be it. As far as reliability they seem to be fine and a stock like idle.

Good luck with the install, it is time consuming just a lot of bolts, other than that it is okay install.



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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 1:46 PM
well i think this is somthing i will be looking into after i get my ho mani on the car



Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 2:42 PM
those damn 10mm timing cover bolts are a bitch to do.


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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:14 PM
ge_forcez22 wrote:those damn 10mm timing cover bolts are a bitch to do.


Indeed, but those three 17mm ones that connect that whole top motor mount assembly to the block are a pain to try and clear the body (with the motor still connected to the trans).


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Re: Secret cam role call
Thursday, February 08, 2007 8:24 PM
18mm... and yes they suck, lol, Gear wrenchs FTW


HP Tuners | Garrett T3/T04B | 2.5" Charge Pipes | 2.5" Downpipe | 650 Injectors | HO Manifold | Addco front/rear | Motor Mounts | HKS SSQV | Spec stage 3 | AEM UEGO Wideband | Team Green LSD | FMIC | 2.3 cams | 2.3 oil pump swap | 280WHP | Now ECOTECED

Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 8:07 AM
engine outside of the car ftw.
supercharger installation, too.




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Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 8:27 AM
cams are well worth it...and while you have all that apart do ahead and put a new water pump on and a header if you havent already....makes life easier with everything all apart all ready.....and you could do it yourself not too hard just make sure to get a torque wrench and tighten everything down properly


Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 8:46 AM
thanks for the help ill make sure that i tell you'll how this went sometime during the summer when i do the rebuild

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Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 3:24 PM
Put 'em in, took 'em out 3 months later in favour of stock. Running a custom grind now which i'm 90000x happier with.

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Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 3:54 PM
With my ported head and oversize valves, they ran f'n awesome considering what they cost me (nothing). And I did the work myself... so no labor either. I was doing the head anyway... so the gaskets didn't cost me extra. I did the water pump at the same time too... $30 or so for that...

I was happy with them... no codes... guaranteed reliability.





Re: Secret cam role call
Friday, February 09, 2007 8:30 PM
I feel that to make the cams work right tuning is required. I do not have beofre and after dyno's for just the cams, but I only gained 6whp on cams, header and full exhaust and tranny mounts. Note car was running pig rich and tuning would gain some power.


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Re: Secret cam role call
Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:26 PM
Hey guys just looking for some wisdom and some good opinions. I plan on doing this cam swap as well. I am also going with 40 over 10.5 -1 pistons, eagle rods. I plan on sending my balance shafts to jbp to get Neutral Balance Shafts. Do you think I should go with stronger springs for the cams? Or is stock ok? I also am looking into having the crank lightened but I was advised not to because it can cause balance issues. Any ways what do you think of this?
Re: Secret cam role call
Sunday, April 22, 2007 8:49 PM
Stronger springs for what? A garunteed premature valve wear? You dont need stronger springs for these....not enough lift to warrant the downfalls of stiffer springs. Stock springs work just fine.
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