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Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:45 PM
this guy is selling his eagle talon tsi engine for 150 dollars.
i was gonna buy it and rebuild it with forged rods and all that good junk
i was wondering if you can fit it in a sunfire
i have a 97 sunfire se 2.2 ohv
and its a 96 eagle talon 4g63t engine

Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:54 PM
Fit? Yes. But you'd have to custom make everything... including rewiring the whole f'n car... so it would probably cost you close to $10,000 to actually do it.

Worth it? Hell no.

There's a guy local to me who stuffed a ITR motor into his Cavalier... he gave up after spending thousands on it...





Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:06 PM
you could get any engine into any car if you have the money



Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:37 PM
swap in a 2.2 ecotec.



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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:39 PM
You don't want that motor, it's a 7-bolt block, you'd want a 6-bolt (older). As said, not worth it, an eco can make more than you'll ever be able to put down.



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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:12 PM
aight so if i get that ecotec would it be an easy install or am i gonna have to change alot of @!#$ around
Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:32 PM
well with any engine swap you have to change stuff. the easyiest swap to do is swapping in the same engine you have.
a 2.4 twin cam would probaly be easier since it came in jbodys of that year.
but people have swapped in the 2.2 ecotec. the info is on JBO. just got to go look for it



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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:08 PM
John Lenko wrote:There's a guy local to me who stuffed a ITR motor into his Cavalier... he gave up after spending thousands on it...

If we're thinking of the same person, he's a tool of all tools... and proved it on the quality of one of his builds... turbo header of normal aluminized exhaust pipe? Bahahhaa!



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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 5:53 AM
It's already been done with a 6-bolt in a Beretta. Find that guy, and you'll get your answers. Is it worth it? Not really. It'll have a LOT of power potential but you can achive the same for less with an Eco. Hell, the money you'd spend on jsut the swap of a 4G would be enough to build the crap out of what you have already.



Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:17 AM
there is some guy on car domain with a mcD's 2nd gen with a eclipse motor


for the work your better off putting a LS7 in a cav







Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:27 AM
I dont think an eco would put down the 210hp and 214 torque like the 4g. To get the eco to that power it might cost almost as much as the swap if done yourself. But if you want more of a bolt on then thats def. not a good project. I say you just pay $4,000 for an AWD DSM. Thats alot less work and you still use the engine. Talon, laser and eclipse (dsm) all have that motor. But like he said if you did anything with those engines the 1g 6-bolt is less likley to get crankwalk and supports somewere around 450 hp stock internals. 2nd gen is only about 350hp.

Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:09 AM
not stock the eco wont. but i remember a few JBO members putting down 12 second passes with a hahn turbo and stock internals



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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:29 AM
a eco with the gm s/c will do it

and you wont get laughed at as hard for it either

if you want a eclipse motor , get a dam eclipse







Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 6:56 PM
Talons are hot and fast, just buy one!
Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 7:19 PM
aight how much is a eco?
like 3 grand?
Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 8:36 PM
go to your local yard... i'm sure you could find one for less than a grand... maybe 1500 tops... depends on the year and mileage on it. But yea.. definately do either the twin cam or eco swap, you'll pat yourself on the back later and be much happier. Look at Skwirl, he swapped in an eco into his cav and now has the fastest n/a cav on the org, lol...


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Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Thursday, February 08, 2007 7:23 AM
aight im probably gonna do that then
Re: Can you swap a eagle talon engine into a sunfire?
Thursday, February 08, 2007 11:13 AM
If you can't find an Eco for under a grand let me know. I get them really cheap becasue I buy a decent amount of them from a local yard, so even with shipping I'm sure I could set you up for cheaper then that.
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