Like the subject says i need a list of mods to make my 2.2 Ecotec double its horsepower. I wanna go with the turbo but I want it small enough to have as little lag as possible but big enough to make it with a few other bolt-ons. I am using this car as my daily driver and I want it to be good on the street but im not gonna use it for street racing because im done with that stuff. I know what my car is capable of because I beat a '97 Teg with SRI, headers, cat-back, and short shifter, but not like anybody cares. Any advice would be helpful. Here is a list of what I kinda want to have:
- Intercooled Turbo
- Cat-back exhaust
- Headers
- Cold air intake or short ram intake
Headers and a turbo? Only a cat back exhaust? STICKYS ARE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE
STREET ANTIX, it's coming...
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Intercooled Turbo
Cat-back exhaust
Headers
Cold air intake or short ram intake
when you better understand turbo systems, we'll go from there.
Turbo 101
Man I hate these posts. I just hate em. What do ya wanna bet this is another left handed high school kid with a hand me down cavalier wanting to "soup it up man, cuz it beat a 97' Teg." ?
But I will bite....
You should start with simple things, like a bolt on intake. Just go for a cheap ebay one. There is not anything too special about an intake, if anything it will make the car sound better. Don't go blowing your cash on some super expensive AEM intake. I suppose you could do something else that is simple like a short shifter or something. Atleast then the car will feel a little more "sportier" to drive. Other than that you just need to do plenty of research and get educated on things. Turbo's and such mean a lot of experience and a lot of money. So don't go jumping into that stuff unless you know whats up..... But just for fun, do you know what the difference between a turbo and a supercharger is?
bmxludwig wrote:But just for fun, do you know what the difference between a turbo and a supercharger is?
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I would start with buying the gm s/c kit, and go from there. If you feel you need more power, get some cams, forged pistons, connecting rods, then now that the motor can handle the 300hp (have a shop install them and while its apart get a port and polish), get a smaller pulley, intercool the sob, and spray a wet 50 shot with a WOT switch (wide open throttle). Up the shot to a 75 if you want more power.
The s/c setup theres little maintenance, its reliable, then the nitrous is easy to learn to use.
I want to share something with you - the three sentences that will get you through life. Number one, 'cover for me', Number two, 'oh, good idea, boss', Number three, 'it was like that when I got here.'
Beef up whatever motor you have first with forged internals and headwork... Then think about making 300 hp..
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Myles wrote:I would start with buying the gm s/c kit, and go from there. If you feel you need more power, get some cams, forged pistons, connecting rods, then now that the motor can handle the 300hp (have a shop install them and while its apart get a port and polish), get a smaller pulley, intercool the sob, and spray a wet 50 shot with a WOT switch (wide open throttle). Up the shot to a 75 if you want more power.
The s/c setup theres little maintenance, its reliable, then the nitrous is easy to learn to use.
Don't spray a wet shot with a supercharger...you'll destroy the internals.
All wet does is add extra fuel. How is that going to destroy the internals? Depends on the tune.
I want to share something with you - the three sentences that will get you through life. Number one, 'cover for me', Number two, 'oh, good idea, boss', Number three, 'it was like that when I got here.'
if you would do some research into this sort of project youd know you dont need a header with a turbo.
i see that you are 18.
to make a 300 hp car, you will need money which at 18 i doubt you have a lot of. unless you are hanging off of daddies wallet.
you will also need some know ledge on the subject which i dont think you have judging from this
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Intercooled Turbo
Cat-back exhaust
Headers
Cold air intake or short ram intake
you know next to nothing. now some have put a turbo on a stock internal ecotec and turned up the boost. but it didnt last long after that. and replacing an engine can cost big bucks. again something at 18 you dont have.
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Thats why the s/c and nitrous would be perfect for him. With the s/c the installation doesn't take a super genius, and the nitrous he just needs to learn how to use it.
I want to share something with you - the three sentences that will get you through life. Number one, 'cover for me', Number two, 'oh, good idea, boss', Number three, 'it was like that when I got here.'
Take the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice. But it's not exactly street legal, so keep it on the down low.
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CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:Take the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice. But it's not exactly street legal, so keep it on the down low.
"hey mike"
Do some research first. As others have stated the fact you want a header and turbo clearly show you're not too sure what you're doing.
Why 300hp for a street driven car? Done with racing? You sound like an old man, you're only 18 dude...
Mr. Dirtbag wrote:CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:Take the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice. But it's not exactly street legal, so keep it on the down low.
"hey mike"
..."Frank the Tank" buddy
Mr. Dirtbag wrote:Do some research first. As others have stated the fact you want a header and turbo clearly show you're not too sure what you're doing.
He
"COULD" be talking about a turbo header or ramhorn (although I HIGHLY doubt it).
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Brian Whalen wrote:He "COULD" be talking about a turbo header or ramhorn (although I HIGHLY doubt it).
no.. he clearly did not refer to ramhorn, leghorn, or any other kind of horn manifold
for a daily driven car i doubt you really need 300 hp, y not shoot for a more reasonable goal like 200, and if your not goin to do any racing, which should be done on a drag strip anyways...dont waste your money on a nitrous kit. unless u have enough money to go buy all the parts for the turbo, all the labor for installation and tuning of the turbo, which im guessing it sounds like you'll need to get done for you cuz it doesnt sound like u have the know how to do it yourself, i guess if youve got the cash, go for it.
im personally in the middle of building up my Z24 and im not going for near that horsepower. Im doing a total rebuild, P&P head, bored, valve job, the whole works on the internals plus about every bolt on for the jbody and im only shooting for 170 whp, the object isnt necessarily to gain a ton of horsepower, its to gain a respectable amount that will keep you car reliable, which on stock internals and running enough boost to have 300 hp... im sure its reliable to an extent but if this is your daily driver, id shoot for a lower mark, not to mention getting 300 hp out of our cars isnt easy, and is definetly not cheap.
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a turbocharged eco rocking 250hp on a stock bottom end is doable and livable given the right tuning
the only mod needed would be a turbo setup with the proper fuel mods to back it up.. nothing else would have to be changed
Ramhorns are individual bends of steel piping that could be identified as a "header" by someone who didn't know the difference between the two or had never seen one before...That's all I'm getting at skwirl. It is obvious he doesn't know what he is talking about, because:
southpaw wrote:
A lateral 4-banger has only one header
southpaw wrote:- Cold air intake or short ram intake
No one in their right mind would mention a CAI or WAI as a major mod if they were going turbo (unless someone else asks how they run their intake)
southpaw wrote:
A turbo requires an entire exhaust or welding to the stock piping. Getting only catback is ridiculous.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Brian Whalen wrote:Mr. Dirtbag wrote:CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:Take the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice. But it's not exactly street legal, so keep it on the down low.
"hey mike"
..."Frank the Tank" buddy
should have thought before you posted. Obviously its Frank Ricard who says that. I was continuing on the previous quote. After the 'red dragon' he waives and says 'hey mike' to a neighbour.
Thanks for coming out, hah
99redz24 wrote:
i see that you are 18.
to make a 300 hp car, you will need money which at 18 i doubt you have a lot of. unless you are hanging off of daddies wallet.
you will also need some know ledge on the subject which i dont think you have judging from this Quote:
Intercooled Turbo
Cat-back exhaust
Headers
Cold air intake or short ram intake
you know next to nothing. now some have put a turbo on a stock internal ecotec and turned up the boost. but it didnt last long after that. and replacing an engine can cost big bucks. again something at 18 you dont have.
Oh cmon now, don't hate on the teenagers, Tjepkes is only 17. I mean sure he can't spell, but he knows his way around a wrench or two, and fiberglass.....
Bruski wrote:for a daily driven car i doubt you really need 300 hp, y not shoot for a more reasonable goal like 200, and if your not goin to do any racing, which should be done on a drag strip anyways...dont waste your money on a nitrous kit. unless u have enough money to go buy all the parts for the turbo, all the labor for installation and tuning of the turbo, which im guessing it sounds like you'll need to get done for you cuz it doesnt sound like u have the know how to do it yourself, i guess if youve got the cash, go for it.
im personally in the middle of building up my Z24 and im not going for near that horsepower. Im doing a total rebuild, P&P head, bored, valve job, the whole works on the internals plus about every bolt on for the jbody and im only shooting for 170 whp, the object isnt necessarily to gain a ton of horsepower, its to gain a respectable amount that will keep you car reliable, which on stock internals and running enough boost to have 300 hp... im sure its reliable to an extent but if this is your daily driver, id shoot for a lower mark, not to mention getting 300 hp out of our cars isnt easy, and is definetly not cheap.
Sounds like a huge waste of money building an engine for numbers it won't see. Get some cams, there its reliable. With the eco you can have 250hp on a completely stock motor and be reliable. Theres people on here doing that, and have had no problems at all ,even after a year.
I'll be running 250hp(crank) on a stock eco in the spring/summer. It will be reliable for a turbocharged vehicle.
I want to share something with you - the three sentences that will get you through life. Number one, 'cover for me', Number two, 'oh, good idea, boss', Number three, 'it was like that when I got here.'
Mr. Dirtbag wrote:Brian Whalen wrote:Mr. Dirtbag wrote:CSK aka PROCOLD wrote:Take the restrictor plate off to give the Red Dragon a little more juice. But it's not exactly street legal, so keep it on the down low.
"hey mike"
..."Frank the Tank" buddy
should have thought before you posted. Obviously its Frank Ricard who says that. I was continuing on the previous quote. After the 'red dragon' he waives and says 'hey mike' to a neighbour.
Thanks for coming out, hah
lol...my bad
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
i know u can have a stock reliable turbocharged eco, all im saying is if hes going to shoot for the 300 mark, if i were him id be building up the internals to do that. I may do things a little different than most people, id rather start with getting my internals all built up and then worry about boost. Its kind of nice to know you have the strength to handle whatever boost you throw at it. But thats just me. a turbo is a very expensive modification, and if your going to be going for 300 hp, id make sure your engine can handle it. Thats alot of money to drop into a car to later just ruin the engine.
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