can you run 110 torco race fuel in a stock internals ecotec?
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
Why would you want to? Why do you think this would help you?
fortune cookie say:
better a delay than a disaster.
because i have been running 93 octane and noticed better gas milage and better performance with better gas so i figured by running even better gas from time to time would be nice so i just wanted to know if i could run 110 with out any problems its not illegal to use because they sell it at work
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
If your car isn't tuned to run on that high octane there is not point in doing it.
can i run it with 110 even if its not yet tuned and not throw any codes?
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
Ummm, I'm paying $20/gallon for c16 or so... so 110 must be at least $8-10/gallon, and you think you'll save money how?
Go run 87, its what the car was designed for. If you get better milage with 93, its all in your head.
Built, bottled, ready for 11s. 14.446@93.74mph, 1.848 60' N/A.
race fuel where i work is only 1,25 more than 93 and i have checked it 4-5 times i get about 5 mpg more with better gas and how much it cost isnt what i want to know
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
and you'll need to replace an $80 o2 sensor every 1000miles or so with leaded fuel.
Built, bottled, ready for 11s. 14.446@93.74mph, 1.848 60' N/A.
so what if i just run it when i am at the track?
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
That would be fine especially if you have nitrous
15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
its not hooked up yet but i have it
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
so what would i have to tune then air/fuel ratio or something bigger?
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
A/F and advance your ignition to use higher octane fuel to it fullest.
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"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
so this can all be done with hp tuners
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
wideband is the best ,AFPR,fuel pressure gauge,not really sure what you else your asking
15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
so if it tune the a/f and ignition i can run 110 octane all i needed to know i only plan to use it at the track and sometimes when im in lansing
boost is like ice cream, there's always room for it
MSD for ignition for sure
15.2@89mph 2.171 60ft. 9.830 1/8 R.I.P. "LULU"
Dude.... listen carefully... The ecotec was designed to run 87, without nitrous, boost, or more compression, you'll be wasting money and throwing out horsepower. An optimal tune on 93 will make just as much power as an optimal tune on 87.
Built, bottled, ready for 11s. 14.446@93.74mph, 1.848 60' N/A.
cavalierkid02 wrote:because i have been running 93 octane and noticed better gas milage and better performance with better gas so i figured by running even better gas from time to time would be nice so i just wanted to know if i could run 110 with out any problems its not illegal to use because they sell it at work
First off - YOU DO NOT GET BETTER MILEAGE WITH HIGHER OCTANE FUEL. If you think you do, then that is all in your head. Higher octane fuel contains LESS ENERGY than its lower octane equivalent. That mean that the fuel itself makes less power(not too much less) when burned. It also burns somewhat slower, effectively that is like retarding your ignition timing. Given that you need a certain amount of power to both accelerate to as well as maintain any particular speed, and given that you now make less power, you actually have to use more gas to accomplish the same task. So your MPG does not go up... it actually GOES DOWN(although not much).
As far as getting better mileage with "better gas" = well that is possible in a sense... depending on how you define "better gas." Higher octane fuel is not "better" in any way. It is simply fuel better suited for high compression/high heat engines, where as lower octane fuel is better suited for lower compression engines like yours. However not all gas is equal. I'm not talking about octane here, I'm talking about simple gasoline quality. One of the biggest factors in this is... water in gasoline. Its more common than you think. Some gas brands(especially bargain gas stations) actually have quite alot of it in their gas(a couple years ago one of our local "Clark" stations had so much water in their that alot of engines got hydro-locked. The dealership's near them had their service shops' hands full thanks to them), so you aren't just buying gas but rather buying a gas/water mix @ over $3/gallon etc etc. What a rip off huh? Besides the fact that at high amounts it can damage your engine, water doesn't burn and slightly inhibits the burning of the actual gas/air mix in your cylinder. So yes that will lower MPG. Higher quality gas(regardless of octane) shouldn't have that problem.
Now as for your 110 octane fuel... I'd bet that is leaded. You will kill your O2 sensors and your catalytic converter. Leaded gas is intended only for carborated engines. Don't do it. Around here I can get 100 octane unleaded, or 110 leaded - both are expensive. And yes when I was young and ignorant I decided to try the 100 octane unleaded in my cavalier(thinking it was gonna make me faster lol), and was quite disappointed at the noticeable
loss of power. Lesson learned and money wasted.
Owen wrote:Dude.... listen carefully... The ecotec was designed to run 87, without nitrous, boost, or more compression, you'll be wasting money and throwing out horsepower. An optimal tune on 93 will make just as much power as an optimal tune on 87.
Almost... The optimal tune on 93 will still make a little less power(1-2 HP if that) than an optimal tune on 87. Now if he rebuilt his engine to have high compression etc, then that is a different matter entirely.
I've never heard of this "part throttle" before. Does it just bolt on?
