How can i merge the 1992-1993 Quad-4 2.3 L 185-190 hp and 160 ft·lbf (SCX W41) from the Olds Achieva in my LD9. How can I get the cams to fit and other stuff. I want the HIGH OUTPUT stuff NOT the LO stuff. Iam asking cause since i joined this forum i have learned so much about the LD9 and the 2.3 but still have not seen how to get the HO stuff on the LD9. Please help.....
GMR has got nothing on this
most of it bolts on
..i wouldnt put w41 cams on though..a bit aggresive
scott (section8cav) wrote:most of it bolts on ..i wouldnt put w41 cams on though..a bit aggresive
OKAY so what do u mean by a bit aggresive? Does the intake cam still have the hex to turn the power steering? And what bolts on should i consider to get from the W41
GMR has got nothing on this
Cams should fit on a 2.4L head without any problems. You would need, however, the cam towers from a 90-94 quad or have your 2.4L lifter barrels bored out to 35mm.
but if you wanted them with a quad head, you will need pistons with a good dish or valve reliefs.
DOHC_tuner wrote:scott (section8cav) wrote:most of it bolts on ..i wouldnt put w41 cams on though..a bit aggresive
OKAY so what do u mean by a bit aggresive? Does the intake cam still have the hex to turn the power steering? And what bolts on should i consider to get from the W41
w41 cams only came with the pulley for the belt driven power steering of the quad 4. You can have the end machined for the hex if you'd like though.
-
"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Yeah, but when your valves are making love to you the top of the pistons...... Like Brian said...
I mean large lift, no so much clearness. Custom pistons are a must, if I remember correctly.
I would have the cams machined for the LD9 drive for the power steering.
PRND321 Till I DIE
Old Motor: 160whp & 152ft/lbs, 1/4 Mile 15.4 @88.2
M45 + LD9 + 4T40-E, GO GO GO
Quote:
but if you wanted them with a quad head, you will need pistons with a good dish or valve reliefs
HO cams will require this, as all LG0 engines had valve reliefs, due to the higher cam lift.
1989 Z24 Convertible - Dust Covered
2006 tC - Dust Covered, but driven more
they only have intake valve reliefs..but i wouldnt be looking at JUST w41 parts cus the only difference between w41 and a normal HO was the cams..everything else is the same
scott (section8cav) wrote:they only have intake valve reliefs..but i wouldnt be looking at JUST w41 parts cus the only difference between w41 and a normal HO was the cams..everything else is the same
and of course a differently tuned computer.
Quote:
and of course a differently tuned computer.
which he doesnt need anyway
Wow thankz for the info guyz, and also does it matter if I get a LO intake manifold or HO intake manifold?
GMR has got nothing on this
You want a HO manifold, especially if you are going with more radical cams like the w41, so that you can fill up the plenum at higher RPMs.
-
"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
dude ive tried it . its a total bitch and the gains aren't worth it but if you are really interested go to quad4forums.com, or maybe it's . net not sure, havent been there in a while
oh and you can only use the exhaust cam cause the w41 dosen't have the cam pos sensor on the intake like the ld9
smokeyoa$$ wrote:oh and you can only use the exhaust cam cause the w41 dosen't have the cam pos sensor on the intake like the ld9
MSD Saturn cam sync
-
"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
Well for now I will just swap in the secret cams once I get a chance to go to the bone yard so is the HO intake manifold still okay for this application?
GMR has got nothing on this
.... if your going to do the work, atleast get HO exhaust cam and cam housing, and mod a 94 intake cam, (you have to do somthing about the CPS... 3 ways you can go with that.)
W41 cams are not that big...... Ive had biger.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
Why don't you just swap out your LD9 for a W41 and run a stand alone like Megasquirts?
In the planning stage for an all American TRD Cavalier.
Brian Whalen wrote:smokeyoa$$ wrote:oh and you can only use the exhaust cam cause the w41 dosen't have the cam pos sensor on the intake like the ld9
MSD Saturn cam sync
will that for the saturn work on the Alero, and what year and vehicle do I get the HO cams from? Also will have to add the hex to the intake cam for the power steering right? And I dont have enough funds right now to just swap to a W41 and get the tranny too.
GMR has got nothing on this
Taetsch Z24 wrote:.... if your going to do the work, atleast get HO exhaust cam and cam housing, and mod a 94 intake cam, (you have to do somthing about the CPS... 3 ways you can go with that.)
W41 cams are not that big...... Ive had biger.
Chris
For those who arent aware...
1. Machine the pickup on the cam itself = A lot of money and a good amount of time to have done.
2. Use a cam sync generator wrapped around the #4 spark plug to tell the ECM what the cam position is
3. Don't worry about the cam sync at all and just run straight batch fire as the earlier quads did anyways.
DOHC_tuner wrote:Brian Whalen wrote:smokeyoa$$ wrote:oh and you can only use the exhaust cam cause the w41 dosen't have the cam pos sensor on the intake like the ld9
MSD Saturn cam sync
will that for the saturn work on the Alero, and what year and vehicle do I get the HO cams from? Also will have to add the hex to the intake cam for the power steering right? And I dont have enough funds right now to just swap to a W41 and get the tranny too.
Yes
90-94
Yes...Unless you were to swap to the 2.3L power steering, then you just need the intake cam tower as well
-
"Youth in Asia"...I don't see anything wrong with that.
okay well Iam going to the bone yard this weekend looking to get the secret cams and the 56mm throttle body. But what year and vehicle do I get the HO cams from? And is it okay to install the 2.3 Ho intake manifold with just the secret cams?
GMR has got nothing on this
.... did you look around at all? 90-94 VIN A cars... GM cars.
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
is it true dat the oil pump from the w41 frees up to 15 to 20 solid horsepower
got torque ? wrote:is it true dat the oil pump from the w41 frees up to 15 to 20 solid horsepower
I know if you remove the balance shaft you free up to 15 horses but not sure bout the oil pump on how many horses.
GMR has got nothing on this
Well are you asking if there quarter horse's or are we talking Clydesdales?
Oh boy....
Chris
'02 Z-24 Supercharged
13.7 @102.45 MPH Third Place, 2007 GMSC Bash SOLD AS OF 01MAR08
i actually read it in the online faq about the 2.3l quad 4 and the 2.4l by the way does anyone have a spare tranny they wanna get rid off i managed to put a hole in mine
