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2.2 cams
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 9:41 AM
hey guys, i know you are all pros here in regards with the j body, so here's my thing..i have a 97 model 2.2L engine with injen intake and pacestter header.I know that it's useless to upgrade cams without upgrading the header. my question is from which model or car can I use "performance" cams for the 2.2L. I've tried looking online but nobody ships to my place. anyone out there willing to send me cams here in the middle east????otherwise, teach me where I can get those.thanks a lot...

Re: 2.2 cams
Tuesday, January 01, 2008 10:30 AM
Have you considered buying a used cam from someone in the states and paying for shipment to Crane or another company willing to do a regrind, then having the cam shipped to you? It might be the easiest route.

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Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 2:53 PM
actually, im here in the middle east, so...anyone there who has used "performance cams" for the 2.2L 97 4 door cavy????i've tried to browse for shops online but nobody ships here.
Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:28 PM
thanks!!!!!!
Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 3:45 PM
be wary of ipp cams.



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Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 5:06 PM
jbody performance has them i think
Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:08 PM
Rich Grayo Jr. wrote:be wary of ipp cams.


what are those???I just inquired to them..bogus?
Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:02 PM
what's wrong with their cams??
Re: 2.2 cams
Wednesday, January 02, 2008 11:04 PM
if i have a used stock cam and want to regrind it, what would I tell or what specs should i have it done??i don't understand those numbers..
Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 3:44 AM
IPP says their cams are made from a billet core, but they are a solid casting. They should be okay with stock springs, if they are properly hardened. The J-Body Performance (JBP) cams are way overpriced regrinds. You can get a stock cam reground for between $110 to $165, depending between the cam companies, using their existing lobe profiles. The dimensions on the LN2 cam lobes are the same as the SBC hydraulic roller cam lobes, so whatever lobes are available for the SBC, you can get done to the LN2. There will be limits to what you can do, due to the dimensions of the stock cam profile.






Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:03 AM
MadJack wrote:IPP says their cams are made from a billet core, but they are a solid casting. They should be okay with stock springs, if they are properly hardened. The J-Body Performance (JBP) cams are way overpriced regrinds. You can get a stock cam reground for between $110 to $165, depending between the cam companies, using their existing lobe profiles. The dimensions on the LN2 cam lobes are the same as the SBC hydraulic roller cam lobes, so whatever lobes are available for the SBC, you can get done to the LN2. There will be limits to what you can do, due to the dimensions of the stock cam profile.


Absolutely.

I did a good bit of business with IPP, but the company that makes thier cams (webcams) is an unfamiliar company with a price that is to good to be true, for the exact reason stated above. I dont know anyone who has run one, but I personally would not trust it.

IPP is a fairly priced company for some harder to find and custom j-body performance parts, but the staff does not know what they are talking about all the time, and they did over charge me 2 times I ordered from them (they did refund the overcharge)
Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:06 PM
wow i was wanting to get the stage 2 cam for my 96 LN2 motor. of course i need to add the 1.6RR to it. but i might have to get a regrind here in town.
Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:12 PM
I would be amazed if someone in town could do that....

Mine was done by Crane Cams.....I have also heard of Crower doing them....or if you feel like wasting more money than needed, you could get one from JBP....

I wouldnt trust just anyone with it though, I am pretty sure most machine shops cant handle that...
Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 12:38 PM
ya on 2nd thought most of the machine shops here are limited, bu it doesn't hurt to ask i guess
Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 7:36 PM
Actually, Web Cams isn't that bad of a company, they specialize in import and OHC camshafts, not OHV cams.

Cam (re)grinding requires a special machine to gring the cams and specially trained personell to operate it. Each lobe profile requires a master to base dimensions off of and a master for each design lobe. I would stick to reputable camshaft manufacturers, such as Crane Cams, Comp Cams or Isky Racing Cams. I've heard that Crower can do regrinds and I don't know about Erson. I used to know of a company called Lazer Cams, but all I get from their website is BS advertising.






Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 8:24 PM
MadJack wrote:Actually, Web Cams isn't that bad of a company, they specialize in import and OHC camshafts, not OHV cams.
Correct, I have a set of their DSM cams ("stage II"). The DSM community is very critical of their work, with early quality control problems, and sub-par dyno results.




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Re: 2.2 cams
Thursday, January 03, 2008 10:55 PM
Okay then... Who do we trust for a fresh grind instead of a regrind?

Go beyond the "bolt-on".
Re: 2.2 cams
Friday, January 04, 2008 6:47 AM
so who has ipp cams on their 2.2L 97 cavy??? i don't think i have an option since they are the only ones shipping to middle east. all my friends have civic and want to show them our cavy has potentials!!!!am always trying to tell them about 8 second cavys like lisa kubo's....like i've read somewhere in one of the post quote"damn this civics" . am also planning now about the HPtuners as well but i need to work on my internals first. how about pistons, which one you guys would recommend???????one more thing, what's the size of our piston??
Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 1:32 AM
Nickelin Dimer wrote:Okay then... Who do we trust for a fresh grind instead of a regrind?


Well, you can talk to Dan (JuicedZ4)... he got a billet cam made by..... Comp? I think? And ground to his specs, but it'll cost you over $800 clams to get it. That's probably the route I'm going to go, but I need to work on getting a motor into the shop to build first.




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Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:40 AM
If you need a 2200, you can buy the one my friend is holding on to. $150.00 cash but you'll hafta come pick it up (no exceptions on that rule).

Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 8:05 AM
Ha, thanks Dime, but I can get plenty of em out of the local yards without having to drive out to Illinois




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Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 12:46 PM
anyone out there can tell me what to tell the cam "re-grinder" about the specs or numbers to give??
Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:20 PM
Each cam company has their own cam recommendation form:Crane Cams Cam RecommendationFform, Comp Cams Cam Recommendation Form and Isky Racing Cams Cam Recommendation Form, see page 216. You probably notice most of the qustions are the same. You can FAX it, e-mail it or just call them with the information readily available.

I could also give you an idea of what you need with that same info, though I usually take longer!






Re: 2.2 cams
Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:37 PM
ssome one sell me a custom grinded cam ill pay what you payed for it + shipping even if its used
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