Not sure if I just input the wrong values but I didn't find anything about the DOHC on the OHV block. Reason I ask is mainly just out of curiosity rather than doing it, but has anyone found an OHC or DOHC that could potentially mate up to the ln2/2200 block?

In my 2.3 turbo ford days recently a lot of guys had found that a 2.3 Volvo DOHC head would work on a Ford 2.3 block with modification to the head. It is definitely a total custom setup, but one of the guys who has done this put down over 650rwhp at the dyno...spinning the tires on the dyno, lol.

If anyone has any input or links, that would be awesome.

Not going to happen, not without a TON of R&D.

You would spend less money building an ECO than you would spend to make that work, and then make the same power as you would have had you spent all the money on the eco anyhow.

Id like to read more about the ford setup youre talking about though.

Well, for the Ford setup I would refer to you www.turboford.net. Do a search for the Volvo conversion for "Folvo" conversion and you should have more info than you would ever need. Also, check out www.merkurclub.com/forum as the guy who really knows that conversion in an out is on that page, believe his screen name is Colin.

As for the 2.2 head, just wasn't sure how many people had thought of it or maybe even tried it and got so far before they quit. More than likely it would start out as a backyard mechanic project, but could potentially prove to be worth something.

As for dollar to dollar value, I understand that an eco swap would probably be cheaper, but it wouldn't be different, lol!

I agree on the different, but youre talking about taking an internal cam motor and throwing on an Overhead cam head. haha It certainly would be different lol

Matt Linke wrote:I agree on the different, but youre talking about taking an internal cam motor and throwing on an Overhead cam head. haha It certainly would be different lol

agreed, nothing about it would be easy, different crank pulley, new/custom timing and tensioner setup, who knows if water and oil passages would line up...

Maybe if I ever come into some money I can give this a try

86svo wrote:
Maybe if I ever come into some money I can give this a try

Even if you were a millionaire I'd still call you a moron for wasting money and time on something so stupid.


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cavmania wrote:

86svo wrote:
Maybe if I ever come into some money I can give this a try

Even if you were a millionaire I'd still call you a moron for wasting money and time on something so stupid.

And I would call you an idiot still for not thinking outside the box........read the statement I made, this is more so just for curiosity....jesus christ, lol.

cavmania wrote:

86svo wrote:
Maybe if I ever come into some money I can give this a try

Even if you were a millionaire I'd still call you a moron for wasting money and time on something so stupid.

I would agree with this....the ford guys are doing this because they dont have a DOHC option from the factory....we do....

I am all for thinking outside the box.....but this is not a "productive" thought IMO.

I'm suddenly reminded of the hemi conversion heads made by Ardun (The same guy that later greatly influenced the development of the Corvette) for the Ford flathead (Valve-in-block) V-8! Hey guy, I feel where you're coming from... Back when all I had was a really loosened-up '79 base-model 2-dr Chevette w/4-spd & god-knows-what gear in the axle (Could be 3.36, could be 4.11. It was optional in the early years) I dreamed of doing or making a twin-cam multi-valve conversion on it's lil' 1.6L OHC 4-cyl. Sadly, it never came to be (Money & education limits). Still'd be ice to have seen. Oh well!


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Yea, I realize it will never happen more than likely, just thought it would be neat if someone had tried doing something of this nature before.

Oh well, on to my next crazy thought and/or idea, lol

I made a retarded post, editing to save face. Haha





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Too late!


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

86svo wrote:Yea, I realize it will never happen more than likely, just thought it would be neat if someone had tried doing something of this nature before.

you could duct tape them together.. I'm sure that'd be ultra mega cool and different

86svo wrote:Well, for the Ford setup I would refer to you www.turboford.net. Do a search for the Volvo conversion for "Folvo" conversion and you should have more info than you would ever need. Also, check out www.merkurclub.com/forum as the guy who really knows that conversion in an out is on that page, believe his screen name is Colin.

As for the 2.2 head, just wasn't sure how many people had thought of it or maybe even tried it and got so far before they quit. More than likely it would start out as a backyard mechanic project, but could potentially prove to be worth something.

As for dollar to dollar value, I understand that an eco swap would probably be cheaper, but it wouldn't be different, lol!

sorry to go off topic but

my buddy did that head swap on his XRTi. He is building it up little by little, he sent his Stock super 60 out to get rebuilt and is building a custom manifold to sit his m90 blower on. Going to be a nasty little toy once he is finished.

An ECO head on any engine other than an ECO would look silly, and probably never work, considering the timing chain enclosure is a part of the head. Anyways, a head with a belt driven timing assembly would be an easier swap to manage, but finding one with matching (or close to matching) oil gallys, water jackets, cylinder spacing, cylinder bore, bolt pattern, etc, etc. would be a huge pain in the ass for minimal gains opposed to just building a DOHC engine in the first place.

DaFlyinSkwir(LS61) /PJ/ OEM+ wrote:

86svo wrote:Yea, I realize it will never happen more than likely, just thought it would be neat if someone had tried doing something of this nature before.

you could duct tape them together.. I'm sure that'd be ultra mega cool and different

You know what they say, duct it or F*ck it, lol.

K. Vega..Mr. M62 L61 himself. wrote:
sorry to go off topic but

my buddy did that head swap on his XRTi. He is building it up little by little, he sent his Stock super 60 out to get rebuilt and is building a custom manifold to sit his m90 blower on. Going to be a nasty little toy once he is finished.

I've owned a few XR's and considered the Folvo swap, but money and the fiancee told me otherwise, lol. Still though, with just a few mods done, I dynoed 307whp and 356 wtq at 22psi.

Made for a hell of a great time!

Fords can do it, because the swap involves a OHC engine block with a DOHC head.. no way it would work with a pushrod motor and a DOHC head, unless you completely fill the cam hole to keep oil pressure in



Also.. "Colin" from the merkur forums is local to me..car is just sick from what i've seen

^ You cloud strategically stagger the cam bearing's oil hole placement relative to the galley hole to block it, and bush the lifter bores to do the same. But first, someone needs to come-up with a conversion head. And that's the biggest deal of all.

As for the Merkur XRTi: That thing is just a euro-version of the famous Ford Fox-chassis. The same one that the '78-'86 Fairmount/Zepher/LTD, '79-'88 T-Bird/Cougar/Continental Mk-VII, '80s Granada & '79-'93 Mustang were based on. There are so many parts that can swap between these cars it's flabbergasting what one could do with factory parts alone. You could dash from a Mustang GT in a Granada. You could put the air-ride system from a Connie under a Fairmount Futura (The high-end personal coupe version with the "goofy" rear roof treatment). How 'bout make your LTD wagon handle like a 'Stang? Heck... You could even drop a EFI 302 (5.0L) V-8 under the hood of a Merkur and say it's a rare "Built for America" '80s Aussie muscle car. Not to mention what all is available in the aftermarket for the Mustang that you could make use of.


Go beyond the "bolt-on".

Nickelin Dimer wrote:^ You cloud strategically stagger the cam bearing's oil hole placement relative to the galley hole to block it, and bush the lifter bores to do the same. But first, someone needs to come-up with a conversion head. And that's the biggest deal of all.

As for the Merkur XRTi: That thing is just a euro-version of the famous Ford Fox-chassis. The same one that the '78-'86 Fairmount/Zepher/LTD, '79-'88 T-Bird/Cougar/Continental Mk-VII, '80s Granada & '79-'93 Mustang were based on. There are so many parts that can swap between these cars it's flabbergasting what one could do with factory parts alone. You could dash from a Mustang GT in a Granada. You could put the air-ride system from a Connie under a Fairmount Futura (The high-end personal coupe version with the "goofy" rear roof treatment). How 'bout make your LTD wagon handle like a 'Stang? Heck... You could even drop a EFI 302 (5.0L) V-8 under the hood of a Merkur and say it's a rare "Built for America" '80s Aussie muscle car. Not to mention what all is available in the aftermarket for the Mustang that you could make use of.

Hehe, I know, and I've still got an Xr rolling chassis in my driveway....thinking of the twin turbo 302 In all honesty, Ford's are probably the most, how should I say, interchangeable, of all the manufacturers out there.

The true only after market things I had done to my Xr with the 2.3 turbo motor was the intercooler, bov and 3" exhaust from turbo back. Everything else was just a compilation of parts from other stock 2.3 turbo cars.

I dunno.....maybe a 2.3 turbo FORD motor in the Cavy....??? Hehehe, I can see all sorts of hell with that bastard combination on both ends, lol.

I'm just back to mention one other Fox-based car: Lincoln Versailles. It was that goofy-looking aero-luxury sedan with the chopped-off tail. If you wanna go air-ride or 5-lug on any of the others, this or the Continental Mk-VII is the place to look for these parts. Just saying...

And 86svo: Yeah... I can't wait to see if someone gets really (Sharp, smart, bold... Pick one!) and shoves a Mod-DOHC engine under the hood of one. That would be soooo fitting looks-wise, since it is a euro-car & euro-cars are known for having DOHC engines. And the advanced-tech look of the car would be matched with an engine that by design suggests the same. All so fitting. Kind of like that Falcon idea I spoke about, remember?


Go beyond the "bolt-on".