so can we run it? or can I run it? its like 20 cents cheaper
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with proper fueling mods and tuning, yes. in stock form? no.e85 requires roughly 1/3 more fuel for the same work output, so you'd need a larger fuel pump, larger injectors, and a way to tune for said parts. also; yes, it is cheaper, but as stated, requires roughly 1/3 more fuel for the same work output, therefore, you use it faster, and your mileage will go down. .20/gal cheaper isn't really cheaper if you use that much more fuel.
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I hear that the E-85 eats up standard fuel filters, fuel tanks, and other components. A lot of mods will need to be done.
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e85 is the @!#$. im gonna run it.
E85 would be sweet. its like running 103 octane is what i understand. I think if i remember from checkin out a few websites its like 103-105 octane rating! which is awesome, but you have to do some serious mods to your fuel system. there was a posting earlier about running e85. you have to replace alot of your fuel system. such as rubber parts and need to check out your pumps ability to keep up with higher demand of fuel. There were concerns about pitting and corrosion on aluminum parts. Ask around and do a lil research see what ya find out! Not saying its a bad thing to convert to...but just check out what the costs of upgrading it would be! e85 would be cheaper then race gas with what i have been hearing about how well it runs when converted!!!
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you'll also probably need a different top ring in your engine for each piston...e85 is very corrossive, some ppl might not completely understand that...it'll eat more than rubber...you have to worry about everything that fuel comes into contact with before its burned(and including burning) and make sure its up to the task.. look into what some companies did to let their cars run off of it, and you'll see what needs to be done. i would do it, but there's only 1 fill station within like 3 hours of me, and its almost an hour away...eff that.
but, do it right, and you'll be happy with it.
i have one 30 minutes away
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Dave De Stefano wrote:you'll also probably need a different top ring in your engine for each piston...e85 is very corrossive, some ppl might not completely understand that...it'll eat more than rubber...you have to worry about everything that fuel comes into contact with before its burned(and including burning) and make sure its up to the task.. look into what some companies did to let their cars run off of it, and you'll see what needs to be done. i would do it, but there's only 1 fill station within like 3 hours of me, and its almost an hour away...eff that.
but, do it right, and you'll be happy with it.
E85 is not corrosive. When it absorbs water it is very corrosive. But you shouldn't have to worry about that in your engine, since if it's running, you'll just cool off the combustion with the water. But I wouldn't think of it too much. I know that if you get too much water in your E85 that your car won't run...... but at the same time if you get too much water in your gasoline your car won't run either.
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Aside from the compatible parts that have fuel flowing through them, you'll need the GM Flex-fuel sensor (Had easily at any parts-store) if you want to retain some modicum of flexibility. For what I've heard, there's a shop that's able to add it to a factory computer by using one of the unused inputs, or it can be added to a Big3 or FAST system (<- Can't remember which of those specifically). Just say it last month in the latest issue of Popular Hot-Rodding.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
I know its not J-Body related but a few of my buddies run it in their mid 90's hondas...stock pump, stock lines, stock filter, larger injectors...thats it...
pretty nice when you can get a del sol with the 1.6L, turbo, stock internals, to make 250hp and run 13's on corn
I am going to run it when I build my new motor next summer...
ask the oldman gary... he runs E85 in his sunfire
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Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:ask the oldman gary... he runs E85 in his sunfire
I thought it was E70....
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-MD- Enforcer wrote:Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:ask the oldman gary... he runs E85 in his sunfire
I thought it was E70....
he still had winter blend running.
gmanz24 (The Bash Whore) wrote:-MD- Enforcer wrote:Qwibby {T3H Old QBE} wrote:ask the oldman gary... he runs E85 in his sunfire
I thought it was E70....
he still had winter blend running.
Hence way I mentioned the sensor they factory uses, it varies from season-to-season & refiner-to-refiner. Heck, some blends outta the pump don't deliver as good as knock resistance as they could because of usage by the makers of additives as stabilizers & such that don't really burn well. However, Rocket Fuels (figures) has a blend that doesn't use lackluster additives that yields an octane rating of about 113 points (IIRC). I know that sounds as troublesome as setting-up for running race-blend gasoline, but if you've or are going flexible it sounds like just the thing to get for race-day... With a lower cost per gallon at that.
Go beyond the "bolt-on".
my brother runs it in his dsm.
he likes it. been on it for almost 2 years and no issues. ( walbro intake pump, bosch 44 inline pump, -8 fuel lines, some 80$ fuel filter, aeromotive fpr,1600cc injectors)
But after a year he took out his injectors and there was a little gummy build up on it.
Also i seen tests he showed me on a lawnmower where it ate through the primer bulb, rotted out the rubber line and caused the carb bowl to start to pit. 2 weeks of it sitting in there.
basically to be on the safe side, have no rubber in contact with e 85, and all metal exposed coated or stainless steel. He had his fuel rail(aluminum) anodized.
good luck
cody akers wrote:i have one 30 minutes away living in iowa is nice
i have like 5 within 10 minutes lol INDIANA = CORN
well i live out in the boondocks so that doesnt help
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