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Ecotec Swap Progress
Monday, February 08, 2010 5:54 PM
Hey everyone. Just thought i would share my excitement with everyone. I am the proud owner of a 2000 sunfire 2 door, 2200 5 speed. I have always wanted more power out of my car. I know that this was not the greatest idea seeing as i would have to spend a lot of money for a small amount of power. So last week i was cruising kijiji like i always do when im bored and found a complete ecotec swap with 170 000kms in it. Seeing as my car has 270 000km getting close to being too many, I jumped at the chance to do a swap. So i got the car for 350 seeing as the guy was desperate to move it . So in one afternoon the donor cav was striped and the engine now happily sits on my trailer waiting to be swapped. Which i am doing next week. So like anyone on here i couldn't just leave the thing stock. So i have been happily spending my money and wanted to share.

Here is what i have purchased so for

Header SS Header!!

https://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=4907 Control Arm bushings

https://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=776 Lower engine mount

https://www.turbotechracing.com/productcart/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=4915 Transmission inserts

http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemVersion&item=360232904796&view=all&tid=0 Srs full stainless steel catback yaa!!

So i have pics of the engine coming out of the donor car which i can post later and i will be taking lots of photos of the swap!! Follow along this should be fun!!!



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 11:26 AM
keep us updated, let us know any problems you run into. ill book mark this because im saving money to do the swap as well. good luck and happy wrenching



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 5:34 PM
i did'nt look at any of the links you posted cuz i'm a lil short on time. but way to move up in the world! i'll keep an eye on this thread.



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:00 PM
alright once i do my eco swap, that header is MINE!!!



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:16 PM
sweet. fyi keep a eye one the gasket at the 4-2 flange. some gaskets sent in the kit are crap and blow a leak with in few days of driving.



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:34 PM
Thanks for the tip I will. Ya that header is a nice one. I was sold when i saw it. Whats does everyone think of the parts so far?


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 10, 2010 3:55 PM
I have one of these 4:2:1 stainless headers from E-bay, looks exactly the same.

I immediately noticed some things when I unboxed it.
Maybe I am just picky, but the port sizes due to welding the pipes onto the flanges had some offsets and weld blobs that made them all different sizes.

I then placed the gaskets on the header, and problem #2 was apparent.
The gasket alignment with the bolt holes where a little off.
Plus, the gasket had partial coverage of the inside pipe diameter.

Problem #3 was the worst...
The flange to the head, it was slightly warped.
I had to ghetto fix this, I layed it on a couple different tables to find the raised point on the flange.
I noted the area and had to lay a large sheet of heavy grit sandpaper down on my concrete patio and just grind it down.
Then check with the table to see if I can see light at any angle to make sure it was completely flush.
This took 2 dozen times at least, but I did not do much metal removal each time as it is easier to remove and not add back on.
I then used fine grit sand paper and then the honing attachment on my drill.
I checked with several machine shops and they said they could not fix this due to the tubes attached to the flange, it created too much mass to get it on the machine to machine it flat. Too many, sorry, can't do its led me to just going out and doing it myself.

I had to:
A) dremil all of the ports to the same size, and match with the gaskets
B) some parts of the gaskets needed dremilled to allow the bolts to go through and to prevent any flow blockage the inside of the gaskets may give.
C) fine sand all of the dremilled areas to blend
D) use a honing attachment to make everything polished once again

Now everything fits like a glove.

I hear you should weld the header together at the 4:2, the gasket will most likely leak from the stress point.
I also think it is because some people slap these together and the above problems were not addressed.
Not saying all headers have these problems, but $200 E-bay headers usually do.
Even Pace-maker does too.


My wife's 2003 Ecotec 2.2 liter Sunfire:
* 2 1/4 inch in and dual 2 inch out muffler Trans Am muffler
* 2 1/4 piping to a very long 2 1/4 inch resonator
* 2 1/4 inch catalytic converter
* an AEM true cold air intake NOPI edition
* 8 gauge ground wire kit
* Toyz front strut brace
* Russell stainless steel brake lines all around.
Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Friday, February 12, 2010 5:57 PM
Anyone else have the exhaust system on here?? what about the tranny and motor mounts? how does everyone like them that has them??


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Saturday, February 13, 2010 6:26 AM
make sure you buy the upper engine mount too
Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Saturday, February 13, 2010 8:51 AM
y is that??


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Saturday, February 13, 2010 4:25 PM
Out of all the mounts, engine and tranny, you will notice the most difference from the upper mount. I would do the swap, put the stock mounts in and drive it for a week or so. Then put your mounts in and you will notice the difference.

I have a tsudo header waiting to be installed. I'm gonna weld the 4-2 section. Also have Magnaflow catback installed. I like it but its time to upgrade. I have OEM 3" waiting to be put in also.

On a sidenote, are you in Canada?

Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:03 PM
Yes i am in ontario.


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:07 PM
Where in Ont are you? I'm in grimsby
Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 6:17 PM
Near hamilton. Why do you ask?


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:05 PM
I grew up in hamilton. Just seeing if you were in the area.
Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Thursday, February 18, 2010 3:48 PM
Ya im in a town called waterdown.


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Thursday, February 18, 2010 4:51 PM
Ok everyone I got a bunch of parts today and thought i would take some pics. Sorry about the quality they are with my phone. I am excited now seeing as i have everything and the day is only 3 days away before the swap is started. So here are some pics of the engine and parts that i have...


Engine

Again

Tranny and engine mounts

New Header!!

Again

2 to 1

Header on motor!

Again

Cat back

I am really happy with the way everything looks!! I will be taking lots of pics with a better cam when doing the swap and will be sharing with you guys early next week.


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Friday, February 19, 2010 10:54 AM
bump


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Friday, February 19, 2010 11:16 AM
Why the bump?










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Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Friday, February 19, 2010 12:54 PM
Just because no one was adding and i wanted to see it at the top again


Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 6:37 PM
So it's done. We went a little overboard on everything but I figure do it right the first time. I am not at home so as soon as I get a chance to get my computor I will upload all the pics of the swap



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:33 PM
Damn you did that fast! Imma start mine hopefully next week, Any major issues? What took the longest? Be sure to watch my thread.. I'm also doing the M62 at the same time.



Mods: Synapse Charge Piping, Short Throw, Bad-Mab Dp, Dejon Intake, BYT Tuned!
Parts For SALE! Pacesetter Header(ECO),17'in Resonator, Alternator, Starter, Viper Alarm.
Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 7:41 PM
thats sweet that you got a cheap motor to swap... but you may want to consider boost... N/A ecos just don't make that much power... it will be more than your 2200 but there is yet to be an N/A Eco that can touch an N/A LD9 (2.4) Z24 engine. i'd get the M62 supercharger esince you already bought a header and now it would be a waste of it to Turbo.



Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 8:41 PM
Yes, ecos are sluts for boost.





Re: Ecotec Swap Progress
Wednesday, February 24, 2010 9:04 PM
Ok so I already beat a sunfire gt with the 2.4 in it. Funny enough it was the first car that I pulled to a set of lights beside and the guy driving it decided to put his foot down so I pulled him. That being said we didn't really run into any major issues that we couldn't over come with a trip to part source. The time was mainly spent cleaning the motor and engine bay. The engine was on a stand for two days. The longest thing was figuring out the exhaust. The header had a leak in it from factory at the flange so I had my fabricator weld it up for me. Other thanthat it was apretty smooth process. Except fortue fact that it wouldn'tcrank after we got it in and hooked up.after about 3 hours of trouble shooting with about 4 mechanics we realized we were missing the crank fuse. Can't stress enough to double and triple check all conections and fuses!!!!! Like I said pictures to come and lots of them


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