Gotcha. So being an LNF on boost, you went with the stock plugs or upgraded to Laser Iridium? What was your decision on going LI on the LNF? Stock recommended? You a haven't modified the car much etc.? I always figured cars on boost should stick with copper plugs whether 1 step colder or 2 step depending on the mods.
Since the cavy loves the copper, you'd prefer I went V power then the stock AC DELCO Plats?
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LNF comes with laser Iridium's factory. I went with them again, but a heat range colder because it is my daily and I want them to last. Only performance done to it and a small tune with 20psi, and richened it up as GM runs the DI motors lean. I have 130k on the HHR. Just changed the plugs. I do not mind spending $50 on plugs ever 130k.
On a true play toy project I would go with something cheaper if I'm likely going to change more often than 130k. I hope that makes sense.
I will say if you are boosted on your ecotec (I know your not currently) I would recommend the same plug I just put in my LNF. Mostly because it is pre gapped. If you can find a V Power a heat range colder for your motor then I would recommend that.
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Thanks for the info. Nice DD btw.
So, my next mod (P&P built head) puts me up to the 200 WHP+ mark (it should). Go 1 step colder because? Please explain so I understand. I change plugs almost every 6 months, I have no problem spending $50 on plugs myself twice a year (even if not needed).
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I would likely not change from stock heat range as you are not increasing compression.
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Great. Thanks for the advice man. On the NGK site, they don't have a V power available. AC delco site only listed the Rapidfire which is a platinum plug. Looks like I'm goin plat! Will search for a copper plug, there are tons out there.
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For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
BuiltNBoosted wrote:For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
What stock number? Also where are you getting them for $25 for 4? What are they pre-gapped at?
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The NGK G power is basically the stock AC DELCO platinum plug for the L61 ecotec. I'd like to find a fine tip platinum plug like the my NGK iridium's 0.7mm tip.
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Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
What stock number? Also where are you getting them for $25 for 4? What are they pre-gapped at?
$28 sorry. I dont remember the gap off the top of my head right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042UBDG4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A131TE6FZZS8Q
Addicted to meth wrote:Kamui Storm wrote:So let me get this straight, the NGK g power won't work on my eco? But the NGK laser iridium will? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ngk-3474 (laser iridium) http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ngk-5019 (NGK g power)
No one said they would not work in your car.
technically any plug would work in any car.
Well yeah, what I meant was someone mentioned something about reach & how it could I believe damage the heads or something? I'll have to go back and 're read.
BuiltNBoosted wrote:Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
What stock number? Also where are you getting them for $25 for 4? What are they pre-gapped at?
$28 sorry. I dont remember the gap off the top of my head right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042UBDG4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A131TE6FZZS8Q
Interested the. They are pre gapped at .032. Reach is 19mm, where stock is 25mm.
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The 3787's I'm running and usually recommend in boosted Ecotec's are 1 heat range colder, but same reach as stock.
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Yes, I see that. NGK heat ranges go colder as the number increases. The 3787 has a heat range of 6 at 25MM length vs the 5690 which has a heat range of 7 (2 steps colder) but is at 16MM length (I didnt see the 19MM you mentioned). Stock heat range then for the ecotec motor, L61 anyway is 5 for NGK. I use the 4344 with a stock heat range of 5 and at the 25MM length.
As it was mentioned, do no go colder unless you change the compression or on boost.
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Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
What stock number? Also where are you getting them for $25 for 4? What are they pre-gapped at?
$28 sorry. I dont remember the gap off the top of my head right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042UBDG4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A131TE6FZZS8Q
Interested the. They are pre gapped at .032. Reach is 19mm, where stock is 25mm.
Don't forget im running an LSJ head as well. I almost screwed myself when I was getting ready to start it and going to put plugs in it... I had L61 plugs and had an oh @!#$ moment and remembered to use the LSJ plugs instead.
BuiltNBoosted wrote:Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:Addicted to meth wrote:BuiltNBoosted wrote:For boost purposes I have always went the NGK Iridium. They also come pre gapped but I run 2 steps colder. I currently have 1 step colder in the car since my 2 step colder are fouled and the car is not fine tuned yet. Its about $25 for a set of 4, so I do them once or twice a year.
What stock number? Also where are you getting them for $25 for 4? What are they pre-gapped at?
$28 sorry. I dont remember the gap off the top of my head right now.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0042UBDG4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=ox_sc_sfl_title_1&smid=A131TE6FZZS8Q
Interested the. They are pre gapped at .032. Reach is 19mm, where stock is 25mm.
Don't forget im running an LSJ head as well. I almost screwed myself when I was getting ready to start it and going to put plugs in it... I had L61 plugs and had an oh @!#$ moment and remembered to use the LSJ plugs instead.
You are correct. 19mm is a LSJ plug reach.
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