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Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET!
Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:30 PM
Hello friends!
I make perfomance parts and turbo kits, i send parts for all world. If you have the C20GET(GM 2.0 8V engine turboed standard), i have this parts below for you put in your engine for up-grade:

External Wastegate: US$ 116
Iron cast high flow T3 series flange C20GET manifold: US$ 159
Oil flange pipe for bolt in turbocharger(oil-out system): US$ 15
Oil flange nipple for bolt in turbocharger(oil-in system): US$ 15
APL240(T3 series, good for up to 300hp) Turbocharger: US$ 470
APL388(T3 series, with bigger trim, good for up to 350hp) Turbocharger: US$576
Braided pipe for wastegate: US$ 28
Downpipe with elbow flange: US$ 47
Dump-valve, nice sound and visual: US$ 56
Commom AFPR(one fuel setup, like all AFPR that you see for sell): US$ 47
Special AFPR(two fuel setups, special made for get a engine turboed using the standard management system. You can configure a perfect fuel demand before and after boost): US$ 90





Forged pistons(donīt includes rings, donīt includes pins) good for up to 600hp: US$ 461
Head steel gasket(prevent gasket failure using this special gasket!): only US$ 55

Vernier camshaft pulley: US$ 67


I have good postage cost for America. For a packet with partial turbo kit up-grade(15 to 20kg packet, very heavy), will cost only US$ 115 for arrive in door of your house in 20 days.


Any doubts that you have, write to me: c20xe@hotmail.com or mvaux@terra.com.br


Cheers and thanks for you attention,


Matheus S. Almeida

Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:08 PM
Any idea how much shipping would be for the T3 manifold to the US?


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Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:46 PM
ouch, seems pricey for those pistons. i got a set of v6 ironhead forged pistons with pins for $400us (remember 6 pistons, not 4) and rings for $70 more.

none the less, nice to see some lt3 stuff.



Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Sunday, April 24, 2005 3:58 PM
good lookin out.

turbo piston's cost more though due to there design


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Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Monday, April 25, 2005 6:19 AM
Hello friends!

Really sorry for the delay to answer.

Lets see..

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Any idea how much shipping would be for the T3 manifold to the US?


Yes, it will cost 46 US dollars of postage, and more 50 US dollars of bank transfer cost. Because this, is better buy big amount of parts, for use better the extra cost of bank transfer.
If you want buy only the manifold, will be a final cost to you of: 159US(manifold) + 46US(postage) + 50US(bank transfer), total of: 255 US dollars for the manifold arrive in door of your house.


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ouch, seems pricey for those pistons. i got a set of v6 ironhead forged pistons with pins for $400us (remember 6 pistons, not 4) and rings for $70 more.


The price of perfomance parts variates according the amount that sell. You can see pistons for commom V8 engines from less than 400 US dollars, because are pistons that have certain that will sell, then, the manufacter can make a lot of sets, and get lower cost of production. In the case of LT3 engine, its donīt sell a lot of, then, i make low amount of sets, and canīt get so good price.
If you see the Summit Sportcompact catalog, the price of pistons to import(4 cylinder engines) cars, donīt is less than 530 US dollars, and in some cases goes to 800 US dollars a set.

For VW engines that i sell in little more amount, i can do from 403 US dollars the set.

And if you and yours friend make a group buy of 10 buyers, i can sell from 380 US dollar the unit of LT3 forged pistons. Because in big amount, i can get lower cost of production in factory.

But look for my other prices too.. compare my price of turbocharger, wastegate, dump-valve..manifold..
You will see that my price in most case are 1/3 of price of the most makers there in America.


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good lookin out.


Thank you friend!


Any more doubts, ask me!


Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Monday, April 25, 2005 6:22 AM
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And if you and yours friend make a group buy of 10 buyers, i can sell from 380 US dollar the unit of LT3 forged pistons.


When i said "the unit", i mean the set, that is 04 pistons. Sorry for the confusius.


Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Monday, April 25, 2005 7:15 AM
Some more pictures:


C20GET/NE/LT3 turbo manifold for high flow/power and T3 turbocharger



APL240/T3 turbocharger with A/R.63 turbine housing


Set of C20GET/LT3 forged pistons, top worked for very low compressio ratio


My Brazilian version of C20NE engine turboed with my turbo kits. This engine are the same of yours LT3/C20GET, only have diferent management system, inlet manifold and camshaft.


Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Monday, April 25, 2005 8:50 PM
whoa! i love that cam carier cover


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Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Monday, April 25, 2005 10:24 PM
You should focus more on trying to sell us the stuff we can't get here (unlike the turbo's) for example, we can't get cams here, I tried calling a company that makes them overseas no luck from them, cam blanks even?, a upgraded valve train would be another thing not offered here in the US, as well as what looks like adjustable cam gears on your car, under drive pullies, hell even the intake manifold/tb setup if it is better then our setup here (I can' see it but it looks to be a better design). Not that I have the $$ for any of the above right now but those I know with Lt3's would be interested in the above.

Unfortunately it is a small crowd you have to sell too here but on the flip side since we have access to none of the above from anywhere here there is a good chance for you to get a head up on the market no matter how small it may be. Either way I wish you luck with selling here in the US and hope you do well because I will be doing a engine build soon.




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Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 8:55 AM
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whoa! i love that cam carier cover


Nice!

I sell this from 86 US dollars.

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You should focus more on trying to sell us the stuff we can't get here (unlike the turbo's) for example, we can't get cams here, I tried calling a company that makes them overseas no luck from them, cam blanks even?, a upgraded valve train would be another thing not offered here in the US, as well as what looks like adjustable cam gears on your car, under drive pullies, hell even the intake manifold/tb setup if it is better then our setup here (I can' see it but it looks to be a better design). Not that I have the $$ for any of the above right now but those I know with Lt3's would be interested in the above.
Unfortunately it is a small crowd you have to sell too here but on the flip side since we have access to none of the above from anywhere here there is a good chance for you to get a head up on the market no matter how small it may be. Either way I wish you luck with selling here in the US and hope you do well because I will be doing a engine build soon.


Really thanks for these tips friend!
I will try get more parts that you donīt have acess there. But if you see, my price in turbocharger, wastegate, manifolds, are very good in compare USA market. And remember, my manifold and turbocharger, will fit perfect in your car, donīt need modify. If you buy some turbocharger there in USA, maybe donīt will fit in your car, because donīt will have space..or, if you try make your own T3 manifold, probably will be wrong geometry..etc.. Then, my turbo parts is a really good for make turbo up-grade.

I sell turbo for parts for 4 cyl GM engines for all world..i sell much for France, England, and Germany.

Look the weblink below:
http://www.migweb.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=192996


Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Tuesday, April 26, 2005 3:59 PM
Looks like I"m gonna have to start saving my lunch money


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Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:07 PM
with the limited number of products here in the states i will definitely be purchasing some stuff from you...so is there any manufacturer that makes forged con rods...i see the forged pistons (do you sell rings and pins?) but i have not seen any sort of rods anywhere....


Also what kind of electronics is everyone using....I am not sure what to do as far as electronics go....i am gonna be going pretty crazy with the car....it has a fully built tranny with higher stall already....getting ported and polished head in 2 weeks....so what electronics are you guys using is my main question....

Joe C.


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 12:54 PM
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Looks like I"m gonna have to start saving my lunch money

lol!

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with the limited number of products here in the states i will definitely be purchasing some stuff from you...so is there any manufacturer that makes forged con rods...i see the forged pistons (do you sell rings and pins?) but i have not seen any sort of rods anywhere....


Hello friend!
I have commom GM rings to sell, and forged pins(but you can use commom pins of your standard piston, only need cut in correct measure). The standard GM rings, i can sell from 68 US dollars, and the forged pins costs 140 US dollars.

But for less than 350hp of power, you can use standard GM rings and pins(only need cut in correct measure) without risk of any failure. The forged pins and aftermarket rings is need for really high power, like 450+hp. And the aftermarket rings, you can get there in USA with TotalSeal maker, but i think costs more than 120US dollars.

I have forged conrods for sell too, i didn't make advert about this, because my price is not so good in this. I only can sell a set of forged conrods(H-section) from 1086 US dollars. Is very expensive. But is conrods for more than 650hp and comes with ARP2000 bolts.

I try advert only parts that i have good price.

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Also what kind of electronics is everyone using....I am not sure what to do as far as electronics go....i am gonna be going pretty crazy with the car....it has a fully built tranny with higher stall already....getting ported and polished head in 2 weeks....so what electronics are you guys using is my main question....


Well, do you have a standard turboed LT3/C20GET engine, correct? Then, your more problem is the MAP sensor, that maybe can't hold so much boost. You can make some eletronic clamper for don't permit the MAP sensor send wrong voltage to ECU.
The new fuel demand, you can set-up using my AFPR special, that is a special FMU(adjustable fuel pressure regulator), that have two fuel pressure setups. You have the initial fuel pressure setup(when the boost don't comes in) and second fuel pressure setup(when the boost comes in). With this, you can work with bigger injectors without get so rich mixture in idle/low rev, because when don't have boost, the fuel pressure will be so low. You can work from 1,5 bar at idle, and 6 bar in boost..can work in very big range of fuel pressure before and after boost. I sell this special AFPR for 94 US dollars. Is the yellow part in the first picture of my advert post.

The ignition timing don't will need modify if you lowering the compressio ratio.

But, if you looking for really high power up-grade, is good save money for an aftermarket fuel injection system. Have the Megasquirt for sell there in USA for a really good price.

Anymore doubts, please, ask to me!

Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 1:51 PM
yea i am new to the lt3 but i have just acquired a 89 turbo sunbird....The setup it is currently running it has ran 13.5 in the 1/4 mile....I would like to get it down into the 12's at least and maybe even high 11's.....

How much power can the stock internals handle before i need to upgrade??? Also would i need to change out my electronics if i was to go with the APL388 turbo...I am used to new age high HP cars this SOHC and old school stuff is kinda new to me....I am just trying to get a upgrade path worked out....

My plans to get it into the 12's are rework the charge pipes 2" crush bent!!! And do some exhaust work....Thank you for the help and i am glad to see you are open to helping future customers i will definitely be purchasing a lot of parts from you...

Cheers,

Joe C.


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Wednesday, April 27, 2005 2:24 PM
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yea i am new to the lt3 but i have just acquired a 89 turbo sunbird....The setup it is currently running it has ran 13.5 in the 1/4 mile....I would like to get it down into the 12's at least and maybe even high 11's.....


hummm..nice.. Do you have pictures of your car and engine bay of it? Only for curious for see the machine..

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How much power can the stock internals handle before i need to upgrade???


Well, the standard conrods and pistons of C20GET/LT3 are not much strong..canīt hold more than 220..230hp... Run with 230hp with standard internals, you begin in high risk of engine failure. But have a little cheap solution for that.
You can use the forged pistons with C20XE engine conrods. The C20XE(European 2.0 16V engine) conrods is the more strong conrods in standard car that i saw. The C20XE conrods can work at 280hp of power without risk of failure, and can over 320hp in overboost for a few seconds.
The people in England sell the set of second hand of C20XE conrods for about 140 US dollars or less..
I have C20XE conrods here in Brazil, but here this a very rare engine, and the price of C20XE parts here are a very expensive. Then, is good see with England friends for send to you a set of XE conrods.
Is the cheapest solution for 280hp up-grade internals.


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Also would i need to change out my electronics if i was to go with the APL388 turbo...


Sincerely, i donīt know in how many boost the MAP sensor of LT3 have problem. But if you can hold around 1,5 bar of boost, you can over 280hp... with 1,5 bar of boost, you donīt will need aftermarket fuel injection for fuel demand, you can use my AFPR special and bigger injectors.

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My plans to get it into the 12's are rework the charge pipes 2" crush bent!!! And do some exhaust work....Thank you for the help and i am glad to see you are open to helping future customers i will definitely be purchasing a lot of parts from you...


For high power, is good go to 2,5 inches downpipe.. or 3 inches downpipe. In turboed engine, is good help the exhaust flow for get lower backpressure.

And i love talk about tunned engines all the time. .


Abraįos,


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 1:32 PM
yea the interior on the thing is completely gutted out no dash or anything....So i don't i will really need more than 280-300 HP to achieve my goal of 11's....

I also know that 3" exhaust is definitely going to be the route that i take....Like i said i had a 388 HP and 419 FT/LB SRT-4....

So you think that the a 3 bar map sensor will be good...Just upgrade the injectors and run your "special" FPR....I know the car is running a 5th injector right now that kicks on above 13 psi i believe....

And i would definitely be up for giving a set of those rods a try....It will be a few weeks or maybe a month before i come across the cash but i want to nuts with this car......I will try to get some pictures of the car this weekend and i will dig up some pictures of my old SRT-4....Thanks for the help again....

Joe C.


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:31 PM
here you go matheus i found some pictures and stats on the sunbird i am getting....i can't wait to get my hands on this beast and get her running again....Had a warped head on it so i am thinking of getting a new reman'd head and getting it ported and polished!!!!! Hope you like what you see and again thanks for all the knowledge you have given me on the LT3....

Joe C.


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:55 PM
sorry here is the profile of the sunbird i am getting....sunbird pics and details


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 6:54 PM
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yea the interior on the thing is completely gutted out no dash or anything....So i don't i will really need more than 280-300 HP to achieve my goal of 11's....


Nice! Then, you don't will need forged conrods, the standard XE/LET version conrods can hold this power without big risk of failure.

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Had a warped head on it so i am thinking of getting a new reman'd head and getting it ported and polished!!!!! Hope you like what you see and again thanks for all the knowledge you have given me on the LT3....


Hum.. don't need change the head, if its don't was much warped, you can skimmer the face for get it plane again, only problem of this is that increases the compressio ratio(when skimmer, the chambers get smaller).

The porting and polishing is very good idea! The 8V head is a very rough project in ports..have much restrict points for remove around valve guide boss, valve seat bevel..etc...
I lost my 8V headworked pictures after get my HD formated, but i have here the pictures of my actual 16V head after my work of ported and polishing(i only made polishing in chambers, valves and exhaust ports, i don't polish the inlet ports because rough surface help in fuel-air emulsification):


Inlet ports(look, i was cut the valve guides):





Exhaust ports(i removed the valve guides too, and get it very good polished for more perfect possible the surface):




Polished chamber without valves:


Polished chamber with polished stainless steel valves:



And after you work in head, is good put a little more agressive chamshaft, for move the power range to higher rev, and will provide more power and less stress(the power in higher rev provide less medium efetive pressure than power in medium or low rev). I think, the camshaft of C10GET are very low duration and lift, because the max power is in very low rev(4.800rpm, correct?), then, if you put the C20NE camshaft that have peak power at 5.600rpm, will provide to you a good power add and less MEP(medium efetive pressure). And i think, your standard fuel injection don't will be disturbed with C20NE camshaft, because is standard factory camshaft, is not so agressive camshaft.



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sorry here is the profile of the sunbird i am getting....sunbird pics and details


i liked it!! very nice! Stay already with intercooler(big one! nice!).. will be a good buy!
And if i understood correct, stay with T3 turbocharger in standard manifold, i think he's using a flange for adapt it.. But the standard manifold have a really bad flow. And he using A/R.48 housing in turbine, i prefer use A/R.63 housing for get less backpressure in exhaust and provide more power in high rev(with C20NE camshaft will be perfect).

I think will be a very nice buy!


Cheers friend and thanks for show the pictures!


Matheus S. Almeida
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:20 PM
well i still want to purchase a manifold and .63 a/r turbo from you so dont think you are gonna lose some business....also how much is this c20ne camshaft you speak of....how much can one of these be had for....I like the ideal of less stress on the internals....Want to push the car deep into the 11 second 1/4 mile....With his 7.9 1/8 mile that is already good for 12.3 to 12.4 range so it isn't far away!!!! Thanks again for the information i love soaking up information on engines!!!!

Joe C.


1 Bad @$$ SRT-4
339 HP and 419 FT/LB
12.8 @ 115.6 1/4 MILE
Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Thursday, April 28, 2005 10:54 PM
man, if i still had my old sunbird... she was a 2.0L and i'd love to do a turbo upgrade on it... but now i've upgraded to a 3.1 V6 and now i want to turbo that in the future... (probley next summer).

this thread makes me miss my 2L bird




Re: Turbo kits and perfomance parts for LT3/C20GET
Friday, April 29, 2005 6:40 AM
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well i still want to purchase a manifold and .63 a/r turbo from you so dont think you are gonna lose some business....also how much is this c20ne camshaft you speak of....how much can one of these be had for....I like the ideal of less stress on the internals....Want to push the car deep into the 11 second 1/4 mile....With his 7.9 1/8 mile that is already good for 12.3 to 12.4 range so it isn't far away!!!! Thanks again for the information i love soaking up information on engines!!!!


Hello friend!

The new standard C20NE camshaft from GM is not cheap, its costs 250 US dollars with special oil to mount.

With this camshaft, you will loose some of power and torque in low rev, for give more power and effience in high rev.

Will be a very nice up-grande!

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man, if i still had my old sunbird... she was a 2.0L and i'd love to do a turbo upgrade on it... but now i've upgraded to a 3.1 V6 and now i want to turbo that in the future... (probley next summer).

hum.. i understood your situation.. But why you donīt buy this again? You can tunning the 2 litres engine for give near power of V6 tunned...and is a lighter a engine, that will provide better weight distribution..is much more easy to assemble and dissasemble..and have much better fuel consumption.


Cheers,


Matheus S. Almeida
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