Lower spring rates = More comfortable ride + Must be higher off the ground
Higher spring rates = Better handling + Can be lower to the ground
Stock springs are the softest available unless you get some custom made.
Goldlines are a nice cheap spring.... but not great quality. Especially with Koni's... I'd go with something that's a little more quality... Eibach
i know that struts are what makes the ride, but would eibachs help the ride quality aswell?
Oh yes.... struts are what stops the car from bouncing up and down... the springs ARE the ride quality.
Lenko, John Lenko wrote:Goldlines are a nice cheap spring.... but not great quality. Especially with Koni's... I'd go with something that's a little more quality... Eibach
no offense to you sir lenko, but the owner and creator of goldline used to work for eibach. ive spoken with him a few times (because of a problem i thought i had) and the guy seems to know his stuff. realize that the goldlines are VERY similar to the sportlines? yeah.... so i honestly wouldn't knock this guy's quality just because they "seem" cheap. yes, eibachs are very nice, but you KNOW that there is a LOT of markup just because of the name. and they can do it, because ppl still buy it.
- Sold my beloved J in April 2010 -
Just stating what I've seen here on the ORG from people's experience. The ride of a set of Eibachs is better than Goldlines, at least on Koni's. Maybe Goldines ride better than Eibachs on stock struts.. ?
What struts do you not have to modify??? Basically the closest to bolt on us j's can get. What I'm looking for is just enough of a drop to reduce wheel gap(1.2- 1.7), and try to keep as smooth of a ride as possible.
All the struts are bolt up except Koni's. If you want something very close to Koni quality, bolt-up, and adjustable go with Tokico D-Specs (NOT HPs).
KYB AGX + Eibach ProKit is probably the most popular combination of people in the know, who want to go fairly cheap, and put minimal effor into a good ride.
Koni Yellows or Tokico D-Specs + Eibach Sportslines or B+G or H-R or Goldlines are also very popular for people who want a bit more of a drop.
IMHO: Yellows + ProKit is the "best" general setup for handling. (I put "best" in quotes for good reason, read the first post here for why.)
im not gonna lie about the reason i dropped my car, it is for looks, not performance. so with that being said, im looking for a drop as close to the goldlines as possible (they have started to sag in the rear, and now the rear is lower then the front) would you guys suggest i go with sportlines, or stay with what i got, or any other spring?
since Eibach warranty's their stuff yes I would recommend them
Yeah.. Sportslines will not sag (in the sense we use the word anyway), and Eibach warranties them against such problems. Goldlines are a good spring, but they do have their problems. Ya get what you pay for.
does anyone get a funny creaking sound from the front suspension when its wet outside? lately when and after it rains i get a creak/squeaking noise from the front suspension when i hit a bump. it goes away completly when it dries up. my front suspension is completly stock with the exception of a GM strut tower brace. any info on this would be greatly appreciated
Probably a mount bearing going bad.... Might be able to disassemble it, clean/grease it, and fix the problem.
where exactly is this mount bearing? i have a haynes service manual for my car and it mentions nothing about this problem or how to fix it. not to mention that it only happens when its wet outside. there is no noise whatsoever when it is dry. the car is a '99 with approx. 56,000 miles on it, it can't be a bad strut, can it?
To start with: Haynes manual suck, but are far better than nothing. They miss all the common problems with out cars; usually only have instructions for sedans (or coupes, but not both; heaven forbid they mention the verts); and the worst diagrams/illustrations imaginable. That's just my opinion anyway.
The bearing is in the mount, and haynes considers it all one piece. If you tak the strut assembly off, take off the mount (more complicated than it sounds), disassemble the mount, you'll find a bearing. It can be disassembled, cleaned, and grease; then put it all back together. Takes, on average, about 30-35 minutes for someone who knows what their doing.
quick question: how would i check to see if my struts are blown once i have them off the car?
Grab a hold of the rod, push it all the way down in, and pull it back out again. If it's a hard fight both ways, they're good. If it slides easily either way it's blown or going.
I have a set of sprints that I am trying to decide if i want to use them. what are your opinion's on them?
They're cheap, and the rate is a bit high, but they're ok (nothing wrong with them). Just be sure to use them with Konis or D-Specs and you'll be set.
Man........10 pages later. My brain hurts. I think Im just gonna swing by a junkyard to cure my Loose Lumber issue and worn out struts since after reading all this, I dont think I can afford to drop my stocker less than 1.5" and tighten the ride just a bit.
Thanx for all those that contributed usefull info, definitely!
98 Sunfire 2.2L
Goat Skull in the rear. It's science not satan!
About 97% stock
Ok, looking to buy the tenzo lowering springs in the GP forum, but I'm looking for a good strut match. I read the tutorial on installing koni yellows and I do NOT want to be cutting things and heavily modifying things just to get these to work. Aren't there any struts that I can just slap these springs on and swap the assembly out with the stock one? Or do you have to cut and modify things reguardless of what strut you use?
^Tokico D-Specs will work for you. No cutting required.
I seriously don't understand why people are so deathly afraid of cutting stuff.
I haven't seen one post yet of "OMG! I cut the old struts and now the yellows don't work! Help!"
I have a 05 sunfire and cant help but notice that my year is not mentioned in your posting (very informative) have you heard if I can just pretend mine is an 04 when shoping for parts and advise or maby I need to be pointed to some one with the same year that I can pester for info? thanks again for the tutorial. i am shiney and new to this and you have given me alot to work with. thanx!!
Steve crook wrote:I have a 05 Sunfire and cant help but notice that my year is not mentioned in your posting (very informative) have you heard if I can just pretend mine is an 04 when shoping for parts and advise or maybe I need to be pointed to some one with the same year that I can pester for info? thanks again for the tutorial. i am shiny and new to this and you have given me allot to work with. thanx!!
The suspension on Third Gen J's are virtually Identical. just use an 04 Sunfire and you'll be just fine