Mine is a 4 volt preout, good enough for me.
ill be getting a set of jls for my self thats all ive ever delt with ... But i dont listen to heavy hitting bass . Ill listen to punk/emo, rock, alternative but thats about it never going to get in a sound off. Im just going for the looks of it and ive been able to do some good with JLs
Ive got the 12" W3v2's and love them, got a Jl 500/1 pushing them
the ? was finding quality sure a 4 or 2 volt will work but any real car audio
person could tell u higher volt the cleaner the sound from the radio
Yes thats true... but in my opinion, The amount of money your going to be dumping on a head unit for that extra 2 or volts is not going to be worth it. What i mean is that, i got a 4 volt because its in the middle and was a decent price. Spending $400+ dollars on a headunit that has 8 volts is a waste because its not that much of a difference.
Im going to be getting the 300/2 only because i don't wanna run the risk of ever blowing them up because ive gone through like 5 sets of subs in the last year, not because ive killed the subs, but because they weren't what i wanted. These are going to last me quite a few years. Im keeping the cavy til it dies, I wonder if these subs can keep up.
sycx 1 wrote:the ? was finding quality sure a 4 or 2 volt will work but any real car audio
person could tell u higher volt the cleaner the sound from the radio
not totally true....
The higher voltage will allow you to reduce the gains on the amp, which will lower the noisefloor of the system. If you have no problem with noise, then you most likely wont't benefit from the higher output.
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bingo. if you dont have noise issues and can get a quiet system with 2 volts then your nore gaining much with 8 volts. its something that used to be important, but now that the voltage has gotten so high its not an issue, it was big when we started finding headunits with 1 volts of output, now it's mostly a non issue, its kind of like paying 500% for a amp putting out 1% distortion, or paying 1000$ for an amp putting out .01 percent. u may think your getting allot better sound but in actuality the human ear can't pick up distortion under 3-5 % so neither amp will sound any diffrent to your ears.
this information is being provided by me, a real audio guy that has competed with a 2 volt headunit and gotten perfect scores on noise related section of competiton.
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^^well said. and on amps and distortion, think about your speakers can have as much as 5-10% of distortion...compare that to the thousandths of a difference in the amps and it won't matter.
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im gonna pick up 2 12's of the new w1's but they havnt been released in canada yet...i hear the price is good and they perform better then the w/o...i find all jl's subs havent never let me down..ive always been impressed with there stuff
John Major aka PsyKoTicK1 wrote:exactly, but the new w3 is actually going to need I think 25-50 more watts than the v2 that I have, and I have about 250 watts going to mine. But its true I would go for a w3 instead of that.
It wont "need" 25-50 more watts than the v2. That number is just how much continuous power the sub can handle, thermally. The difference between 250 and 300 watts is really minimal to the ear.
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ok u said it your self more volt on radio =less gain on amp =more reliable less strain on system besides u think I paid an arm &leg for my 8 volt $450 is a desent price
how many people run alpine hu in dash screens and by time u run back out get eq
then get x-over hell u round $7-800 mark like I said I paid that for mine for its way easier to setup than any radio I've seen old/aned new style eq/ single way/or three way
x-over /t ime aliment voice control over my whole audio system and gps trackin/ instead of typin I'm just askin my radio where to go I know where my ride is at all time
never get lost thats for sure so if $450 is to much for all that Y would I pay even $250
for a radio that don't even do half of what mine does
But......than again its all personal pref I had the money at the time my jvc was stolen
I wanted a screen but $1550 was high for me then another $1000 nav know thats crazy
sycx 1 wrote:ok u said it your self more volt on radio =less gain on amp =more reliable less strain on system
you mis-worded it...higher voltage means you can set your gains lower, that has nothing to do with reliablity and strain on your system, it simply lowers the noisefloor of your system, which if you have no noise problems, won't be beneficial to you.
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an amp running to a 4 volt headunit and an amp running to an 8 volt headunit will still play the same watts and will have no more nor less strain, it will work the same.
there are allot of headunits out there that will have one unit for say 250, and then for 300 have the exact same unit except for highver voltage out. and its just not nessicary to pay for the extra volts. we wre not talking about crossovers or eq's or time alignment, this discussion was strictly about voltage out of the headunit, not any of the other functions you listed.
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I see sndsgood goes by sound instead of site I know I worte it cuzz I wrote it
I said I paid 450 for all the extra stuff I'll need later down the line I didn't say you get more watts I said CLEAN SIGNAL gives CLEAN SOUND like 4 volt ok my buzz
your insides with a 4ch where 8volt crispy clear and no the convo was on quailty read before u say pay extra for just voltslike before eq/x-over/gps for travel or if someone ever
stole my ride it can be tracked thats way I really wanted it and eclipes replaces there headunit if stolen I didn't buy it just cuzz of volts buddy smellgood or what ever and have u ever had a setup and only upgraded the radio with one with more volts
I've ran a memphis 1000d & 2 JLw3 for the last three years and yes when I changed 5volt eclipes for a 8 volt things got a lil clearer not much but some and once again I hope u read this time I didn't just pay for 3 extra volts its alot more to this radio
U might as well tell everyone not to pay $100 for an intake cuzz you'll only get 2 to 3 horses out of it think about it know
You need to learn sentence fluency. That was the hardest post to read in a long time. Heres my point... Im not a Sound Quality PERFECTIONIST. I like good sound quality yes, but im not going to pay another $50- $100 just so my sub might sound an ounce better. In my opinion instead of upgrading the deck, upgrade the rest of the system to meet your needs.
Understandable u think I 'm payin extra for a few volts but like said many times before
look what all other good things it does like gps when time to travel and autotrackin!
u can only upgrade so much before it hurts sound I don't know how much more I can up grade got eq/3way x-over /batcap/ eclipse 8445 hu/ eclipse 7122/and there 85x4 4ch
car is never lower than 14.0 volts when almost up fully
so my ? to everyone is how did I pay anymore or anyless for for what mine is able to do
copared to just buyin anyold radio and upgrading to meet the needs of what I don't know cuzz u got everything u could ever need
okay i tried to read what you posted but it just made no sence to me. slow down and look at what you type becaues to me its incoherent.
i'll go back thru what you said and i responded to to try and help you understand my point.
1. u said
"more volt on radio =less gain on amp =more reliable less strain on system"
my responce
"an amp running to a 4 volt headunit and an amp running to an 8 volt headunit will still play the same watts and will have no more nor less strain, it will work the same."
if an amp is 400 watts and your running it to a 4 volt receiver, you adjust the amp so it plays 400 watts cleanly. now if you have that same amp and run it to a 8 volt unit you adjust the gain so its putting out a clean 400 watts. the amp is still working just as hard as before your still getting 400 watts, so this does not change the reliabitly of the amp and nore does it lessen the strain on the system.
2.u said
"I didn't say you get more watts I said CLEAN SIGNAL gives CLEAN SOUND like 4 volt ok my buzz"
my responce
"if you dont have noise issues and can get a quiet system with 2 volts then your nore gaining much with 8 volts. its something that used to be important, but now that the voltage has gotten so high its not an issue, it was big when we started finding headunits with 1 volts of output, now it's mostly a non issue,"
i have competed in sq events. i get perfect scores for having no noise in the system using a 2 volt system. if i have no noise issues with 2 volts, i'm still not going to have noise issues if i go with a 8 volt system, so its not an issue at all. once a system is quit, its quiet
3. your responce
"your insides with a 4ch where 8volt crispy clear and no the convo was on quailty read before u say pay extra for just voltslike before eq/x-over/gps for travel or if someone ever
stole my ride it can be tracked thats way I really wanted it and eclipes replaces there headunit if stolen I didn't buy it just cuzz of volts buddy smellgood"
im just guessing at my answer here becase this really makes no sence.
i was never stating anything about you paying extra just for volts, this post wasnt about you, this post and allot of my responces were based off the original question, i could care less how much you paid for your headunit, or what bells and whistles you have on it. i never once stated you bought it just because of the volts, i stated that a person should not spend more money just to get a couple extra volts.
4. your responce
"smellgood"
my responce
trying to cut down on me makes you look like a third grader, grow up and try to debate the topic, when you resort to name calling it makes you look like you dont have anything intelligent to say.
5. your responce
"I hope u read this time I didn't just pay for 3 extra volts its alot more to this radio "
i never once stated you did, i just stated that its not worth spending an extra 50-100$ for a headunit that just increases the volts. again that remark wasnt even in refrence to you, it was in refrence to the original poster. im trying to help the original poster, where as you just seem to like to brag about your headunit.
6. your responce
"Understandable u think I 'm payin extra for a few volts but like said many times before
look what all other good things it does"
no one here thinks that, and no one here has said that about you. end of story.
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I'm simply askin y pay later to upgrade when u can get what ever u can think of
addin on later from the jump is basiclly it
first off I'm a cool @zz person and really quite person and for u to say that I'm a third grader thats funny cause I recall no one on here made a comment of the way I type
on here before yes I can type longhand but I chose not to and for you to say that u cut at from the start so don't take it personal and hey 8 trophys in sound quailty I thought I would help with advise my fault I know now not to post in this forum
"I'm simply askin y pay later to upgrade when u can get what ever u can think of
the guy allready has a headunit that is putting out 4 volts. why should he go out and spend more money for a new headunit when he allready has one that is plenty good to get the job done? hes looking for subs and an amp, and your saying he should go upgrade his headunit? you can get a perfectly quiet sound from 4 volts.
"first off I'm a cool @zz person and really quite person and for u to say that I'm a third grader thats funny cause I recall no one on here made a comment of the way I type"
reread my post, i said you sound like a thirdgrader because you were calling me names. name calling is something little kids do.
I recall no one on here made a comment of the way I type
actually steve w mentioned your typing before i ever did.
i'm not saying type longhand or shorthand, i'd just like you to maybe use comma's or periods or spaces, or any type of punctuaition so we can understand what your saying,
and hey 8 trophys in sound quailty I thought I would help with advise my fault I know now not to post in this forum
there are allot of other people on here who compete as well, just because you were handed a trophy doesnt mean your going to be right about everything.
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wysiwyg wrote:sycx 1 wrote:the ? was finding quality sure a 4 or 2 volt will work but any real car audio
person could tell u higher volt the cleaner the sound from the radio
not totally true....
The higher voltage will allow you to reduce the gains on the amp, which will lower the noisefloor of the system. If you have no problem with noise, then you most likely wont't benefit from the higher output.
What kind of RCA cables do you use? And do you use a O-Scope to set your amps?
sorry man...my membership expired.
I use knu-konceptz wiring throughout my car. And i did at one time set my gains with a scope but i do beleive i lowered them a bit since then(has been a LONG while, lol)
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